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So you should be quite happy then. The U.S. in that regard is getting closer to your Cuban example of a socialist utopia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rainfall
Is this supposed to be a joke? America is a totalitarian shithole with two parties that are in effect not any better for democracy than one-party states.Quote:
Originally Posted by larvidchr
All they need to do is introduce re education camps.
Seems Snowden's been offered asylum in Venezuela and now Colombia(?), as well as having been proposed to by a Russian activist. Things may be looking up for him, the lady in question doesn't look too bad either.
That would surprise me- it's a US client state, kinda the sole bastion of 'freedom and democracy' [TM] in the region.Quote:
Originally Posted by ENT
Think I would be a bit worried if I worked at the Guardian news paper.
US Government are saying Snowdon is a traitor and gave secrets that endanger the US to it's enemies.
Enemies of the US often die in drone strikes and he gave the information to the newspaper.
The Guardian is clearly an enemy of the US and needs to be taken out. Jim
Latin states now seem to be falling all over themselves to offer asylum.
Nicaragua the latest to offer him a home.
NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden offered asylum by Venezuela | Information, Gadgets, Mobile Phones News & Reviews | News.com.au
Just gotta figure a way to get him out of Russia w/out Obama shutting down all air space over Europe etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Necron99
Obama seems to have finally earned his peace prize, the Bolivian presidential flight fiasco has united both leftist and rightist Latin countries. Against him...
Easy out. There is no need for a passport. Military flight to Cuba, then on to his new home.
Personally, I would have hung out for Cuba.
Might make for a more dramatic chapter for his book and movie if they smuggle him out on a submarine.
Maybe we should have a poll, where would you prefer to take asylum from the evil empire?
Careful.Quote:
Originally Posted by Necron99
You'll bring down the wrath of the Obamabots aboard here with that kind of talk...:mid:
Already in place, they're called Universities. Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Berkley, Smith, Brown, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Koojo
My mistake there sabang.Quote:
Originally Posted by sabang
It was Nicaragua, not Colmbia, that made the offer of asylum to Snowden.
Bolivia and Venezuela have also done the same.
Obama has left his foreign policies to 2 incompetent imbeciles, first Clinton and now Kerry
Thank god Kerry was beaten in 2004 after all, he is clearly out of his league
hey here is an idea, nominate GW Bush instead of Kerry for doing such a shitty job, even him would manage it more elegantly
you will find that those "security technology" projects are always funded by the NSA and the Pentagon, and they have the backdoor keys for those algorithms, and this is well documented in "hacking" circles, so it's actually never secure, only from the public, not the authorityQuote:
Originally Posted by Khonwan
And with more savoir faire! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Butterfly
I hear York Way is already being evacuated.Quote:
Originally Posted by jamescollister
Snowden is apparently in Venezuela.
Rebel Alliance: 1
Evil Empire: 0
The spirit of Chavez lives on!
Edward Snowden Safely Lands In Venezuela Where He Was Granted Asylum To Avoid U.S. Extradition | PRLog
Hope he lasts. Caracas is the murder capital of South America. 8,000 murders a year in Caracas. Lovely country.Quote:
Originally Posted by mao say dung
Its maybe his last haven - but there is not much confirmation of this news as yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by mao say dung
this is getting ridiculous
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He also said that Lindsay Mills, his girlfriend who was living with him in Hawaii, was being a real “bummer” and this was as good an excuse as any to get away from that situation.
Lindsay Mills’ new boyfriend Paul Horner told the BBC News earlier this month that Snowden couldn’t handle commitment. “He’s just using this whole whistleblower thing as an excuse. The truth is, Lindsay is a great girl and Snowden really blew it by leaving her,” Horner said. “But she’s with me now and I’ll make sure to take real good care of her. America is here for their women in need, especially when that woman was left by a traitor to this country.”
:rofl:
Some interesting sites (all updated or written this year) to further knowledge of Tor and allow interested readers to decide:Quote:
Originally Posted by Butterflyyou will find that those "security technology" projects are always funded by the NSA and the Pentagon, and they have the backdoor keys for those algorithms, and this is well documented in "hacking" circles, so it's actually never secure, only from the public, not the authorityQuote:
Originally Posted by Khonwan
https://www.torproject.org/
http://threatpost.com/new-nsa-leak-sheds-light-on-encrypted-data-retention/
http://freebeacon.com/anonymous-jihad/
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Japanese-Police-Urge-ISPs-to-Block-Tor-123950
http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/05/30/revealed-australian-spies-seek-power-to-break-into-tor/
http://threatpost.com/new-nsa-leak-sheds-light-on-encrypted-data-retention/
There really are some dumbfuckers in America.Quote:
Originally Posted by Butterfly
So now Venezuela has granted Snowdon asylum, if - big if - he can negotiate a way out of Russia.
For some reason I think of this lyric everytime when I read about this boy:
Mother do you think they'll drop the bomb?
Mother do you think they'll like this song?
Mother do you think they'll try to break my balls?
Mother should I build the wall?
Mother should I run for president?
Mother should I trust the government?
Mother will they put me in the firing line?
Oh, it is just a waste of time.
(Mother - by Roger Waters)
Unfortunate circumstances it seems. Snowden is now forced to choose a country in exile that has some of the worst examples of human rights abuse, individual freedoms, closed and controlled press and is more or less nothing but a state of military occupation.
I guess he never read about Daniel Ellsburg and the Pentagon Papers? I can't think of a worse place to live or seek asylum. Russia ought to let him go there. Nothing like a little help from your friends...
Edward Snowden: US officials are preventing me claiming asylum | World news | guardian.co.ukQuote:
The NSA surveillance whistleblower Edward Snowden has said US officials are waging a campaign to prevent him from taking up asylum offers as he called a meeting in Moscow airport with human rights groups.
In a letter sent to groups including Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International, the former intelligence agency contractor claimed there was "an unlawful campaign by officials in the US government to deny my right to seek and enjoy … asylum under article 14 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights" and invited them to meet him at 5pm local time.
"The scale of threatening behaviour is without precedent: never before in history have states conspired to force to the ground a sovereign president's plane to effect a search for a political refugee," he wrote to the groups.
"This dangerous escalation represents a threat not just to the dignity of Latin America or my own personal security, but to the basic right shared by every living person to live free from persecution."
Reuters quoted an airport official as saying Snowden would meet the groups on Friday afternoon in the transit area of Sheremetyevo, where he has remained since flying to Russia from Hong Kong on 23 June.
The 30-year-old former NSA employee is trying to negotiate asylum elsewhere to avoid facing charges in the US, including espionage, for divulging details about US electronic surveillance programmes.
"I can confirm that such a meeting will take place," an airport spokeswoman said.
Reuters said Amnesty and Transparency International had been invited to meet Snowden, with the former confirming it would attend.
Sergei Nikitin, the head of Amnesty International Russia, said: "Yes, I have received a brief email. It said that he would like to meet with a representative of a human rights organisation – there was not much information there. I'm planning to go."
Tanya Lokshina of Human Rights Watch confirmed she had been invited to the meeting and posted Snowden's letter on Facebook.
In the emailed letter – which Lokshina said she could not independently verify as coming from Snowden – the former intelligence worker said he had been "extremely fortunate to enjoy and accept many offers of support and asylum from brave countries around the world". He added: "These nations have my gratitude, and I hope to travel to each of them to extend my personal thanks to their people and leaders. By refusing to compromise their principles in the face of intimidation, they have earned the respect of the world.
"Unfortunately, in recent weeks we have witnessed an unlawful campaign by officials in the US government to deny my right to seek and enjoy this asylum."
The email ends with an invitation for rights groups to meet him at the airport at 5pm (2pm BST).
Snowden is still believed to be weighing up his options. Late on Thursday, Venezuela's foreign minister said the country had yet to receive a formal response to its offer of asylum.
"We communicated last week. We made an offer and so far we haven't received a reply," Elias Jaua told Reuters during a regional foreign ministers' meeting in Uruguay.
Venezuela is one of three countries to offer asylum to Snowden, along with Bolivia and Nicaragua.
In a separate email to Reuters, Snowden confirmed that the meeting with human rights groups would go ahead but said it would be closed to the press. He said he planned to speak to the media later.
The letter told the groups to bring identification and meet at 4.30pm at Sheremetyevo airport in Terminal F, "in the centre of the arrival hall [where] someone from airport staff will be waiting there to receive you with a sign labelled G9".