Thread: 'Shootings' and 'machete attack' in south east London: latest

Originally Posted by thegent

It seems the Met police may have been taking lessons from their Boston compatriots in that it took them nearly 30 minutes before attending the scene during which time many members of the public were accosted by these murdering savages or mingled with them in surreal ignorance of events such as that black woman squeezing past one of them with her shopping as he ranted at someone filming his antics.

Sometimes, I think the entire world' s authorities have taken a stupid pill.

Thirty fucking minutes.

Unbelievable really. Two buck niggers wielding knives and a meat cleaver with bloodstained hands and a butchered body lying in the middle of a London thoroughfare in broad daylight and it takes these numoties thirty fucking minutes to secure the scene.

Rather think the Commisioner has some explaining to do but then, it'll no doubt be some anodyne, mumbling excuse clouded in jargonese evading the issue.

Thirty fucking minutes. It' s really mind boggling just how totally, fucking inept the police have become. And if one of them trips over a fucking pavement or is called a poof or lezzie and they claim thousands of ££ in compensation.

So lets talk about cops.

Let's wait for more information later today but it looks more like an opportunist attack than a planned one.

they were carrying half a dozen meat cleavers and long butchering knives.

The Woolwich 'beheading' is straight out of al-Qaeda's terror manual
By Con Coughlin World Last updated: May 22nd, 2013
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The horrific killing in Woolwich, where a man believed to be a soldier based at the nearby Woolwich barracks was beheaded by two machete-wielding assailants, has all the hallmarks of an al-Qaeda attack.
At the time of writing we are still awaiting confirmation from security officials about the precise nature of the incident. But having just watched some ITV footage, which shows a man with bloodied hands who is carrying a machete saying directly into the camera "We swear by almighty Allah we will never stop fighting you", it seems pretty clear to me what has happened.
For years al-Qaeda activists such as Anwar al-Awlaki, the American-born cleric who preached global jidad from his base in Yemen until he was killed by a U.S. drone strike two years ago, have been calling on their followers to launch their own home-grown attacks.
Rather than trying to carry out sophisticated operations on the scale of the September 11 attacks, or the July 7 bombings in London in 2005, Awlaki urged his followers to take matters into their own hands and conduct basic attacks, such as launching suicide bomb attacks in British shopping centres, or attacking British military targets.
To date the intelligence and security services appear to have succeeded in disrupting these so-called homegrown plots, and a number of al-Qaeda terrorists have recently received lengthy jail terms. In one of these plots an al-Qaeda terrorist wanted to kidnap a British soldier in the Midlands and film himself beheading his captive.
Now it seems al-Qaeda has finally achieved its goal.
Tags: al-Qaeda, Anwar al-Awlaki, military, woolwich

daily telegraph

brainwashed by a manic cleric in one of the local mosques and jihadist websites these men decided to act. it will be interesting to know their backgrounds and history.

Originally Posted by thegent

It gets worse. Looking at those dozy coppers who eventually turned up one really does begin to wonder just how fucking stupid one has to be to become one.

Instead of ensuring that all those who were present during the 30 minutes it took them to turn up remained as material witnesses, the fucking clodhopping morons aggressively push everyone back and tell them more or less to fuck off, seemingly more intent on deflecting the quite natural criticism of their tardy response.

Truly, a bunch of wooden-topped fuckwits.

Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe, the Commissioner of the Met, must be called to account fir this unutterable shambles.

Is this some diversion tactic ?

I thought the issue at hand here was that some Islamic lunatics beheaded a guy in the name of Islam in the middle of a London street.

Yeah lets talk about the cops ,I wonder what the left wing "appeasers" would have said if the cops arrived in a couple of minutes and and upon see the dead guy on the ground and these two lunatics walking round with blood stained weapons and then opened up with automatic firearms thus eliminating the threat to further life and limb .

Well, Socal, that is becoming the story. To aggrandise the murder as an act of terrorism is downright stupid. It was simply an act of random barbarity perpetrated by two savages, ostensibly in the name of whatever garbled motive that might occur to them.

Murder is murder. Politicising it is unhelpful and simply provides ammunition to those stupid enough to dwell upon some imaginary significance.

For me, it's just another random stabbing by subhumans upon a poor, hapless and innocent victim.

But the police response is certainly one of significance not least because it could have led to an even worse slaughter.

^Indeed... but at bottom that is true of so much of what is called "terror" in the GWOT discourse that infects all our media...

In this case it is obviously even more the case, but ignoring the "religious/hate crime" angle can't help either.

Yes, I am/was an American. But this is not a Brit-bashing post. Neither is it a gun violence in America post.

It's a serious question. What is with unarmed British police? Are you simply living in some fantasy of times gone by? Were I a copper, I wouldn't police the streets of a major city ANYWHERE unless provided with serious firepower, and perhaps the odd flamethrower or grenade launcher.

Anyone know the answer?

Originally Posted by thegent

Well, Socal, that is becoming the story. To aggrandise the murder as an act of terrorism is downright stupid. It was simply an act of random barbarity perpetrated by two savages, ostensibly in the name of whatever garbled motive that might occur to them.

Murder is murder. Politicising it is unhelpful and simply provides ammunition to those stupid enough to dwell upon some imaginary significance.

For me, it's just another random stabbing by subhumans upon a poor, hapless and innocent victim.

But the police response is certainly one of significance not least because it could have led to an even worse slaughter.

After reading that garbage I have concluded that you are the sludge at bottom of the muslim apologist barrel.

Just watching TV here....Even the left wing bimbo BBC anchor girls have a more rational take on this then you do. And that is saying a lot.

^^For one thing, most British cops don't want to carry guns on a regular basis.

Originally Posted by mao say dung

^^For one thing, most British cops don't want to carry guns on a regular basis.

Why? So they can avoid danger and doing their job while they sit back and wait for the armed coppers to arrive?

Nulabour in their ghastly social experiment sought to reinforce a spurious commitment to inclusivity and utopian multi-cultural pluralism by creating new crimes motivated by sentiments they perceived would undermine their silly agenda.

Crime is crime. Chopping someone's head off because you hate the cvunt is no different to decapitating him because he's a ginga. Either fucking way it's murder. Motive as mitigation or justification is for a court of law.

To prosecute someone differently to another because of that motive is quite wrong and discriminatory.

Hate crime legislation is just the bastard son of thoughtspeak fascism and should be dismissed.

Originally Posted by mao say dung

^Why not send the Yanks an email and tell them how to live? Seems youse've got it all worked out over there.

Good idea. They never listen though - too busy dictating to Muslims in their own countries

I must say I wouldn't have stood in front of someone who had just done that and was carrying a knife and a meat cleaver in his bloodsoaked hands holding a mobile phone and listening to what he had to say......

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

Anyone know the answer?

The British public don't want armed Police on the streets.

Originally Posted by daveboy

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

Anyone know the answer?

The British public don't want armed Police on the streets.

And how's that working out for them? Appears to have a few glitches......

We've dealt with terrorism for many years Davis unfortunately its impossilbe to stop.

^Indeed. But, I still wouldn't want to be responding to a call like that, be it terrorism or just street violence, unarmed.

Me neither thats why I'm not a Police Officer but I do commend those that are brave men and women.

Police don't need guns normally, although the team that turned up on this occasion were armed

seemed unnecessary as the gun the blokes had was redundant, maybe just a copy

Originally Posted by DrAndy

the whole thing was surreal

Completely agree there. Just weird as. Couple of blacks kill someone gangman style, then just chillax for 20 minutes whilst the cops tootle down after finishing their cup of tea.

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

Originally Posted by daveboy

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

Anyone know the answer?

The British public don't want armed Police on the streets.

And how's that working out for them? Appears to have a few glitches......

There's another angle to it mate. The theory goes that if we armed every police officer it'd make even more criminals start carrying guns, and it'd become a vicious circle increasing the levels of violence associated with crime.

At present, only the most hardened and serious criminals tend to carry guns, your average Joe Criminal doesn't.

Originally Posted by DrAndy

seemed unnecessary as the gun the blokes had was redundant, maybe just a copy

Dunno about unnecessary mate, due to the nature of their ramblings it wasn't outlandish to assume they may be wearing suicide vests.

Also, there have been eyewitness reports they tried firing the gun but it either backfired or failed to work.

Originally Posted by khmen

At present, only the most hardened and serious criminals tend to carry guns, your average Joe Criminal doesn't.

The problem is when this stops being true; maybe it has already. Also, knives are very common, as are bloody large knives and swords, meat cleavers, etc. I agree with the principle, but reckon that the 'average Joe Criminal' or even 'average Joe 'non-career criminal' is a lot more violent and tooled up nowadays.