Thread: Jimmy Savile Paedophile accusations

Originally Posted by Gerbil

denies the claim — won a temporary gagging order

yerk

Originally Posted by madjbs

Also, compensation can be given out of good will,

yep, Jim'll Fix It

Interesting feedback comment on the Daily Mail website......which all the other readers hate of course.

'Red arrows if you don't want the truth! In those days (I was there) audiences were 90% young girls with an average age of 15, at most. They were dressed to kill and looked like 20. They were ALL trying to seduce the DJ, the singer, the drummer, etc. to win envy from friends, school mates, etc. So I do not go along with the rape, abuse claims. These girls new exactly what they wanted and why they were there (in the dressing room, etc). Yes I know technically it is rape if she is under age and any man is stupid (or a paedophile) to take advantage and risk prison but the 'innocent' claim is crap. That is the reason they did not come forward then because they knew they shouldn¿t be there. Only today when these things are seen as more severe do they venture out to claim they were raped. They were 'underage groupies', earning 'groupie points' for seducing older pop stars. I do not condone sex with underage girls but why do these old ladies suddenly get an urge to cleanse their conscience?'

showbiz may have a lot to answer for
sex-symbols, pin-ups
magazines, news of the world,
then the birth pill, condoms
fok my sister was screaming for cliff richard when she was 12.
14 year olds fucking 14 year olds seemed ok
but a 17 yr,ole fucking a 14 yr ole
ye there was a culture of young sex
but most knew there was a line one didn't cross or weren't interested in.

jimmy saville was and looked like a weirdo
and a few others.
showbizz.

His gravestone inscribed 'It was good while it lasted' has been removed from a Scarborough cemetary

Apparently, his coffin was encased in concrete to stop anyone digging him back up.

'How's about that then'

Flamboyant British entertainer and media personality Sir Jimmy Savile abused girls as young as 13 in hospitals, care homes and on BBC premises, according to fresh allegations.

Scores of women are reporting that Savile, who died last year, cultivated an image as a philanthropist while in fact acted as a predatory sex offender over a period of four decades.

Now the BBC is under fire for what it did, or did not, do, and the chairman of the BBC Trust has admitted the organisation has questions to answer.

The eccentric Savile presented Top Of The Pops during the show's 1970s heyday, as well as hosting children's TV shows and carrying out charity work.

Audio: BBC under fire as Jimmy Savile sex offender allegations emerge (The World Today)


Rebecca Owen was a young patient at Stoke Mandeville hospital where Savile made regular visits.
She said his predatory behaviour was common knowledge among nurses.

"There was a resignation that we had to put up with. There was some ironic chatter between them about who would be the lucky one to go off with him to his room," she said.

"Then as one of the nurses was leaving or passing by my bed, she leant over and said, 'The best thing you can do is stay in bed until he's gone. Pretend to be asleep'."

Many more women are painting a picture of a man who used his celebrity and charity work to gain access to young girls whom he would then abuse.
British police are investigating 120 separate lines of inquiry from across the nation, eight specific charges of rape and assault.

BBC presenter Savile 'abused girls in hospitals' - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)


Young girls of 13 recovering from illness in hospital? WTF. Fuckin sick fuk.

I hope his knighthood is posthumously revoked.

Bad news - he's raping paralysed kids in hospital beds.

Good news - they couldn't feel a thing !


EER-EER-EER-EER-UH (Jimmy Savile yodel)

and you have some of his soiled clothing!!

bin it quick

In the same manner that deceased are awarded honours of distinction, such as bravery, posthumously, JS's knighthood should be withdrawn if there are grounds for doing so following an investigation into his behaviour.

These are very serious allegations and it matters not if he isn't around to defend himself. Indeed, in legal terms he would have the right to remain silent on the issues should he be alive today.

The Queen is not amused.

Originally Posted by Mr Lick

The Queen is not amused.

she was laughing like a drain yesterday

she was also trying to say "what Jimmy, liked children? that wasn't what he told me"

Savile abused girls while working for the corporation the BBC. Think i will withdraw my funding of that certain corporation then.Don't fancy putting in towards the wages of any more perverts they might be keeping quite about so my £145.50 is staying in my back pocket.

Originally Posted by DrAndy

and you have some of his soiled clothing!!

bin it quick

I put it on sale on Asia Expat for ten times what I paid for it - but it looks like they didn't accept the ad.

Originally Posted by DrAndy

Originally Posted by The Big Fella

All these women have kept quiet for decades but now can't stop howling about how they were abused by this man. For me they are as sick as he was

Have you ever been abused by someone famous? maybe some of them did complain but were told nobody would believe them etc

you don't know what happened and what they were feeling

Originally Posted by The Big Fella

Also just what is all this about demanding they take away his knighthood.

why not, he doesn't need it now

the queen's hand could also be chopped off for giving it to him, and all those advisors' hands too

The ones that are gushing forth with their tales of abuse are responsible for this monster getting away Scott free. They don't seem to have any trouble now that the man is dead regaling us all with their tales of abuse. I can understand why a child would keep quiet but not when they are an adult and must have known he was still doing the same thing to others. The time to have spoken up was 30 years ago.
You failed to answer just what good taking away his knighthood was going to do. as you say he doesn't need it, isn't going to care so why the big fuss over removing a pointless title anyway apart from stirring up more hysteria in the process ?

Originally Posted by The Big Fella

I can understand why a child would keep quiet but not when they are an adult and must have known he was still doing the same thing to others. The time to have spoken up was 30 years ago.

Kids were often told to stop being silly when they tried to bring up allegations of child abuse decades ago. It was an unmentionable taboo subject.

Once something painful like that is buried in the past then most adults who had endured it would find it easiest emotionally to let sleeping dogs lie which is probably why no-one has said anything.

It is right that he should be shamed posthumously now that the truth is coming out.

Originally Posted by The Big Fella

This is turning into a mad, hysterical witch hunt that isn't going to solve anything. It is getting crazier by the day. All these women have kept quiet for decades but now can't stop howling about how they were abused by this man. For me they are as sick as he was. If they hadn't kept quiet all these years the sick kunt might have been brought to justice. They didn't. That allowed god knows how many more girls to be abused. The man is dead and the time for talking was 30 odd years ago.
Also just what is all this about demanding they take away his knighthood.
HE IS DEAD ! Nobody is ever going to call him Sir again and taking it away would do anything !
In the UK today thanks to that man hating woman Harriet Harmen all men are presumed to be rapists or paedophiles until proven otherwise. Now all men that worked at the BBC during Savilles hay day are now going to be simply thought of as the same as this Sicko !
I would like to see all Paedo,s hung for their crimes but you can't charge a dead man with anything !

Better late than never.

Your lack of empathy for the victims is quite astounding. Yes, blame the victims for not coming forward sooner when they were just children and the world would not believe them anyway. I'd imagine most of those involved just wanted to forget about the whole thing and saw JS as being 'too big' to fight against. Most would think no one would believe them and that they would be vilified for trying to tarnish such a nationally loved figure.

Just as he was too big to fight against when they were children and he molested them.

Awful post Bigfella unless you are trolling in which case

Jimmy Savile sex abuse claims: Broadmoor role investigated




The Department of Health (DoH) is to investigate the decision to appoint Sir Jimmy Savile as head of a taskforce overseeing Broadmoor hospital in 1988.

It comes after the Sun reported claims he abused a 17-year-old patient on a visit to the psychiatric hospital in Berkshire as a fundraiser in the 1970s.

The DoH said the abuse claims were "disturbing" and the entertainer should not have been appointed to the role.

Police said they now had 340 lines of inquiry on the sex abuse claims.


'Hindsight'

The DoH had responsibility for running the high-security hospital when Savile was appointed, but West London Mental Health NHS Trust has been in charge since 2001.

A DoH spokesman said: "We will investigate the Department of Health's conduct in apparently appointing Savile to this role.

"Although the framework for child protection and safeguarding for Broadmoor and other special hospital patients changed radically in 1999, we of course want to establish the circumstances and see if any lessons can be learned.

I am shocked at what I've heard and read. This is not my experience of Jimmy Savile. - Alan Freany Broadmoor Hospital taskforce member

"In hindsight he should very obviously not have been appointed. Had anyone involved in the appointment been aware of allegations of abuse against Savile, we would not have expected him to have been appointed."

He added: "These are extremely disturbing allegations and we would expect any part of the NHS that is involved to cooperate fully with any investigation."

The Guardian reported that Savile's appointment came in 1988, after the hospital's management board was dismissed by the then health secretary Ken Clarke.

However, Mr Clarke's special adviser said the Conservative MP, who was made health secretary in July 1988, had no recollection of this, and the appointment may not have been made when he was in his post.

Alan Freany, who was on the taskforce with Savile, said it was set up by the DoH following a critical report which said patients were too institutionalised and not offered enough care at Broadmoor.

The hospital now houses only male adult patients, but in the 80s accompanied children were allowed to visit relatives at the hospital.

Mr Freany said that as a member of the taskforce, Savile would have been able to "come and go at the hospital as he pleased".

"I am shocked at what I've heard and read. This is not my experience of Jimmy Savile who I met informally," he said.

In an interview with Channel 4 News, one former patient said Savile had a set of keys to Broadmoor.






Child abuse lawyer Liz Dux explains the grounds for a compensation case

Steven George, who was known as Alison Pink while at the hospital and has since had a sex change, said Savile's keys were gold in colour while the staff's were silver.

He said it was as if Savile were "some kind of god", adding: "What was he doing completely free in a top security mental hospital?"

Janet Cope, 71, who was Savile's personal assistant for 30 years, said she visited Broadmoor with him, adding: "I knew he had the keys but didn't think anything of it."

She said of the continued claims: "I don't believe it, but I wasn't with him 24/7."

When the BBC asked the DoH to explain what Savile's role involved, how much access he had to patients, how he came to be appointed to the role and whether he had keys to the hospital, a spokeswoman said: "We have to wait for the police investigation to uncover the facts.

"This issue dates back to the late 80s and will take time to gather all the facts."


'Confront events'

The BBC is to hold two inquiries related to the growing number of allegations being made.

The first is into why a BBC Newsnight investigation into Savile, who died in October last year aged 84, was shelved last year. It will start straight away.

The other into whether culture and practice at the BBC at the time enabled Savile to carry out the sexual abuse of children will wait for police go-ahead.

Director general George Entwistle said the inquiries - commissioned by the BBC Executive Board - would be chaired by independent external experts, whose names would be announced next week.

He also said a third strand to the inquiries which will relate to sexual harassment at the BBC would be announced next week.

Conservative MP Rob Wilson has written to the director general calling for an independent public inquiry into the dropping of Newsnight's investigation into Savile.



But in an interview on BBC Radio 4's Today Programme on Saturday, Sir Christopher Bland, chairman of the BBC board of governors from 1996 to 2001, said: "The rules of the BBC, the editorial independence... are so strong that the idea that the programme was pulled because of intervention from on high is, I believe, absolutely impossible, but that has to be confirmed."

The Metropolitan Police said it was now in contact with 40 potential victims of Savile and continued to liaise with 14 police forces. The Met has officially recorded 12 allegations of sexual offences but expects this number to grow.

In a separate development, the University of Bedfordshire said an honorary award it gave Savile in 2009 in recognition for his fundraising would be rescinded.

In another development, the BBC has learned some of the women making abuse claims may seek compensation from the BBC and Stoke Mandeville Hospital.

Child abuse lawyer Liz Dux, who said she had been contacted by several women in the past few days, said: "The case would be against the BBC or the hospital because essentially they would be held vicariously liable in law for the acts of someone like Savile who was acting as their agent.

"That's particularly the case where they might have had suspicions about what was going on. Their duty of care is heightened if there was that degree of foreseeability."

The BBC said it would not be able to comment on the claims while the police investigation was ongoing.

Originally Posted by taxexile

I find it hard to believe that even savile, with his detached and evasive personality, would sink so low as to abuse children in hospitals, .

An arm lingering around a waist one second too long - is now 'abuse'

Google 'Moral Panic'.

^ Do you reckon "Jim's Soiled Pants" are going to increase or decrease in value?

Originally Posted by Mr Lick

Steven George, who was known as Alison Pink while at the hospital and has since had a sex change, said Savile's keys were gold in colour while the staff's were silver.

He said it was as if Savile were "some kind of god", adding: "What was he doing completely free in a top security mental hospital?"

Janet Cope, 71, who was Savile's personal assistant for 30 years, said she visited Broadmoor with him, adding: "I knew he had the keys but didn't think anything of it."

WTF???????