Thread: Unarmed black teenager was shot by neighbourhood watch volunteer

Gays and blacks disturb you, don't they blue?

Maybe you could find a "cure" for that problem.

Originally Posted by ENT

Gays and blacks disturb you, don't they blue?

Maybe you could find a "cure" for that problem.

I'm sure this pair would 'cure' him good n proper!:



Top tip of the day: Don't google 'Gay black man' with your safesearch function turned off, it ain't pretty.

Oooops!

FYI, if anyone cares, the chief of police who made the comments that there was not enough to prosecute Zimmerman has "temporarily stepped down" as chief. So has the prosecutor. The state of Florida is appointing a new prosecutor. The lower level decision not to prosecute will probably get overruled by the higher level folks.

yes interesting indeed
all i want to know is what happened between these 2 events
a -the hispanic guy follows the black guy

b- the black is shot dead

did the killer report the shooting , and said its ok it was self defence
did the cops reply oh ok- we don't need any more details then, you are covered thanks ,bye.

The information is that the 17 year old's father lived in a guarded gate community. He went to the convenience store and came back with "Skittles" candy. The shooter (Zimmerman) was the neighborhood watch captain. This is not an official position, but a community can have private citizens patrolling a private neighborhood. When the 17 year old (Martin) was walking back to his father's house, he was on the phone with his girlfriend and allegedly told her that he was being followed by someone (turns out to be the Killer Zimmerman). Zimmerman called the police that there was a suspicious black youth in the neighborhood. The police told him to not do anything and they would send a patrol car over. No one really knows what happened next (except Zimmerman). Zimmerman ended up shooting the 17 year old with a 9mm pistol. Zimmerman claimed he went back to his truck and the 17 year old attacked him. The police who arrived noted that his back was wet, as if rolling on the ground, and that there were abrasions on his head as if he were in a fight. They made the decision not to arrest Zimmerman.

Between the (1) hispanic guy follows black guy and (2) black guy is shot dead is the mystery. There seems to be two different stories: either black guy physically attacked hispanic guy (the shooter claims this) or the hispanic guy chased down and "hunted" the black guy.

The police at the scene chose not to arrest the shooter based upon Florida's "Stand your ground" law which does not require that a shooter attempt to flee prior to using deadly force to prevent imminent death, bodily injury or trying to stop the commissioning of a felony. Apparently the police (though I may disagree) believed there was sufficient evidence to demonstrate that the black guy was in a fight with the Hispanic guy to demonstrate "self defense". The issue whether there was "self defense" is debated.

This, of course, is "in a nutshell".

the kid was shot down in cold blood
if you recognised a dog that had rabies
then everybody would say
hey well done man
but to shoot down a kid for NO other reason than colour is psycho terrortory.
bet he was enjoying a few beers when the kid came onto his radar.
america is has some crazed people.

well explained thanks

The corollary of course is how can it help to have Al Sharpton leading protests and Louis Farrakhan threatening violence? The shooter is Latino, not white.

Al Sharpton | Sanford Florida | Trayvon Martin Rally | The Daily Caller

Louis Farrakhan Tweets Curious Messages About Peace & Justice | Trayvon Martin | TheBlaze.com

Originally Posted by robuzo

It's entirely possible that the cops made the decision not to arrest Zimmerman because they thought that based on the "No Retreat" law they wouldn't have a case. If you take a look at some other cases in Florida in which someone not only didn't retreat, but pursued the person he killed prior to not retreating- two instances I read about involved a guy grabbing a knife and running out the door after someone who had broken into his car, and another shooting someone whom he had followed because he didn't like the way they were driving. Not being a forced to get away if possible prior to defending oneself seems fair to me, but there maybe should be a clause included that you had better not have instigated the incident in the first place. Racism may have got Trayvon killed, but more than anything else it is probably a vague, poorly-written law that kept the cops from running some vigilante wannabe in for the killing. Maybe the cops could have done more, but there is reason to believe they might think their hands are tied.

Florida is a white man's state, so they've enacted laws that allow white folk to kill blacks and get away with it.

Not really much of a surprise.

We can close this stipulation out now. Submaniac has noted all the particulars involved i this case as it has been reported both to the police and the public.

Can all the baiting now cease? Good post Submaniac. Tried to green ya, but your brim is full....

^ I think we'll close it when we fucking feel like it, cheers pal.

More to ya Harry! How's the job going? Anyone review your working patterns on the computer? You know those slippery little devils in IT like to follow their workers around the tube.

Why not close it Harry, the truth is out. All you have to be able to do is read and understand like any reasonable person. Of course you're not reasonable. I forgot, more like Al Sharpton, like to hear yourself and be admired for your discourse no matter how foolish and garbled it is.

Have a nice day Harry. kudos to ya...

Rivera objected to any interpretations that he blames Martin. No, Siree, Rivera blames the way Martin dressed. In fact, Rivera could hardly wait to make the point. The segment began with a discussion of minorities being stopped and searched by New York City police. Rather than question what is reasonable suspicion upon which to base a search, Rivera suggested that dressing a certain way is a legitimate reason to be searched.

"I’m telling you, half of it is the way young men look. What is a reasonable suspicion? It’s based on a subjective judgment. If a cop looks at three kids on the corner and they’ve got those hoodies up – and this is where I got in trouble with the Trayvon Martin case. If they’ve got those hoodies up, and they’re hanging out on the corner, the cops look at them and say, ‘Hmm, hoodies. Who else wears hoodies?’ Everybody that ever stuck up a convenience store, D.B. Cooper, the guy that hijacked the plane…the Unabomber – who wears these hoodies?"

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Rivera objected to any interpretations that he blames Martin. No, Siree, Rivera blames the way Martin dressed. In fact, Rivera could hardly wait to make the point. The segment began with a discussion of minorities being stopped and searched by New York City police. Rather than question what is reasonable suspicion upon which to base a search, Rivera suggested that dressing a certain way is a legitimate reason to be searched.

"I’m telling you, half of it is the way young men look. What is a reasonable suspicion? It’s based on a subjective judgment. If a cop looks at three kids on the corner and they’ve got those hoodies up – and this is where I got in trouble with the Trayvon Martin case. If they’ve got those hoodies up, and they’re hanging out on the corner, the cops look at them and say, ‘Hmm, hoodies. Who else wears hoodies?’ Everybody that ever stuck up a convenience store, D.B. Cooper, the guy that hijacked the plane…the Unabomber – who wears these hoodies?"

Little known fact: Geraldo Rivera is a NYC Jew. He don't have a "latino" agenda, but a Jewish agenda.

Originally Posted by hazz

Originally Posted by Mr Gribbs

The story is being manipulaited by the media. The story is being heavily redacted to make Martin look like a saint. It is taboo in the media and public to be critical of blacks and not take their side, them and the Jews are basically untouchables, you don't play on their team kiss your ass good bye. They are basically trying to bully the courts into charging Zimmerman with a crime despite the police belief there wasn't one, just like the Jews did with the octogenarian living in Ohio.

You really do live in a fantasy world don't you. You really think that the US press would never say anything critical about anyone who is jewish or black?

A society that creates laws that allow and see's no moral crime in killing a fellow human being who is pleading for their lives is a society that has lost the right to respect at any level or even exist.

You don't have a clue about the US media if your post is serious. You mean a society that allows people to protect themselves? How many people are killed every year by blacks that look just like Martin? I will tell you, it is in the thousands. You're another bigoted idiot who thinks the world should live by your morals and not their own. Morals aren't set in stone, they are fluid, each society has different morals. If you want to be a sitting duck for some black youths, be my fucking guest.

Back to the case.

Santorum On Trayvon Martin Case: ‘Chilling Example’ Of ‘Horrible Decisions’ By Law Enforcement
by Meenal Vamburkar | 1:32 pm, March 23rd, 2012

Joining his fellow GOP candidates, and President Obama, Rick Santorum made a statement today about the Trayvon Martin case. Calling the incident “chilling,” Santorum also remarked on the reaction from law enforcement, saying it was an example “of horrible decisions made by people in this process.”

RELATED: Mitt Romney Releases Statement On Trayvon Martin Killing: ‘A Tragedy’

Santorum said:

“It’s a horrible case, and it’s chilling to hear what happened. And of course the fact that law enforcement didn’t immediately go after and prosecute this case is another chilling example of horrible decisions made by people in this process.
[...]
I think it’s pretty clear the problems we’re seeing in this case, and hopefully the state Attorney General and local community is reacting and responding. And hopefully this matter will be an example of what law enforcement has to do in a case like this.”
Romney, Gingrich and Obama have also asked for a thorough investigation of the case

Santorum On Trayvon Martin Case: ‘Chilling Example’ Of ‘Horrible Decisions’ By Law Enforcement | Mediaite


Earlier, Obama is reported to have said that if he had a son, the young man would have looked a lot like Trayvon.

This case is over a month old. The event occurred in February? Why all the outrage now? Chicago had its share of race related killings this and last month, unfortunately the majority were black on white, black on Hispanic and black on black. As a matter of fact a young white couple were brutally tortured to death by 5 black men yet no public outcry over that? No professions of "Tragedy," were expressed by anyone let alone that faker of a POTUS. Prisons are filled with black offenders. Its not racism that put them there. Just ask Hearaldo, (Puerto Rican BTW) he knows the truth. Its the hoods. FFS, give me a break.

is it cold in Florida and the moment ?
maybe the youth are cold and need the hoodie

''Earlier, Obama is reported to have said that if he had a son, the young man would have looked a lot like Trayvon.''

he's a clown ,
so it does matter what someone looks like, before you decide how much you care about them

Originally Posted by ltnt

This case is over a month old. The event occurred in February? Why all the outrage now? Chicago had its share of race related killings this and last month, unfortunately the majority were black on white, black on Hispanic and black on black. As a matter of fact a young white couple were brutally tortured to death by 5 black men yet no public outcry over that? No professions of "Tragedy," were expressed by anyone let alone that faker of a POTUS. Prisons are filled with black offenders. Its not racism that put them there. Just ask Hearaldo, (Puerto Rican BTW) he knows the truth. Its the hoods. FFS, give me a break.

Don't forget about the black "flash mobs" that exsclusively targeted white people. There were a couple old white people that got their heads bashed in by black teens here in Philadelphia. There was also the black kids beating the shit out of Asian kids at a local high school here in Philadelphia, that was buried by the meida too. Obama as the President, shouldn't be giving his opinion on every little matter out there, including this killing. Blacks are knocking off blacks all the time, a much bigger issue.

To think all this time I thought Gribbs was black. I was was way wrong..

Originally Posted by gwargamel

To think all this time I thought Gribbs was black. I was was way wrong..

That's just his soul.

Originally Posted by alwarner

That's just his soul.

Originally Posted by ltnt

This case is over a month old. The event occurred in February? .

Less than a month ago, it was on 26th February that he was killed.