This guy is fuking insane!

Well some crazy posts going on.

As I stated Koojo, GPS was not an option back in the 1970's only ECHELON had the ability.

Since then, GPS has been used to pinpoint locus only.

Every time any one uses an electronic communication device, ECHELON picks up its signal (output) and its potential incoming signal (input).

In England, long before all this, a little van used to drive around recording in/output of TV signals.
So a lot of people got nabbed operating a TV set (without a licence).

So nothing new about wireless surveillance on that level.

Later, cell/net telephones were also monitored, about 1989.

Now, after ECHELON kicked off in the '70s, all electronic signals have been intercepted since then.

What is the problem with understanding that?

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Well some crazy posts going on.

As I stated Koojo, GPS was not an option back in the 1970's only ECHELON had the ability.

Since then, GPS has been used to pinpoint locus only.

Every time any one uses an electronic communication device, ECHELON picks up its signal (output) and its potential incoming signal (input).

In England, long before all this, a little van used to drive around recording in/output of TV signals.
So a lot of people got nabbed operating a TV set (without a licence).

So nothing new about wireless surveillance on that level.

Later, cell/net telephones were also monitored, about 1989.

Now, after ECHELON kicked off in the '70s, all electronic signals have been intercepted since then.

What is the problem with understanding that?

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What i don't understand is how by looking at your phone window, little words scrolled across telling you where the call originated and were able to track the call to the point of being able to determine when the caller would arrive. All this before phones had GPS.
That's what I don't understand.

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Around 2001 in NZ, I started tracking location of all recerved calls by simply lookingv at my phone window, the little words would track across, saying that the call was being sent from point "x", allowing me to monitor the time and locus of call to time of arrival of caller.

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This is the post that's got me confused.

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Around 2001 in NZ, I started tracking location of all recerved calls by simply lookingv at
my phone window, the little words would track across, saying that the call was being sent from point "x", allowing me to monitor the time and locus of call to time of arrival of caller.
Identity of caller piece (Ph#) was also displayed.

So I knew if I had to set my dogs on guard or send out a scout in an unmarked vehicle to intercept and nail an undesirable etc if so called upon to do so.
Simple system.

It all is GPS monitored.

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But by your own admission, GPS wasn't available untill 2004.
So what you claim was impossible unless you also invented time travel.
Then there's this.

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So I knew if I had to set my dogs on guard or send out a scout in an unmarked vehicle to intercept and nail an undesirable etc if so called upon to do so.

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Which is just funny.:rofl::rofl::rofl:

(notice the 'rofls of insincerity' there ENT?)

^ The info re caller ID (incoming) and the cell/net transmitter/receiver locus has been standard for years, just on a cheap Bht 1000 cell phone.

What puzzles me, is that you have not even noticed this info on your cell phone screen.

PM or text someone in Thailand or NZ or India about it.

I am truly amazed that you have not seen such info displayed on your celll phone.

Maybe it (your phone) is too high tech/bling, I don't know.

I do know that my Android tablet does not display such info for me, but a cheap little Nokia does, just on opening.

I am no electronics geek, at all, I just use the stuff, any probs I go to someone who knows about it.

As I said, if a call came in, I could see where it was coming from and who was calling.
Old tech, 2001 was when I was aware of it.

GPS came on stream about the same time, but not available as an option on standard phones then.

Satnav/GPS systems have been in place for years, at least since 2001, when I had to use it.

Man, are you trying to wind me up or something?

I see, you're talking about caller ID.
You cannot track or locate the physical origin of a call even now except on some particularly High spec models of mobile and even then only if the caller has activated the progam on his phone in association with his gps which he must also have turned on.
Remember, we.re not talking about hi tech spy agencies here.
we're talking about you and your mobile.
You still haven't cleared up anything regarding my previous post.

Actually, calls can be traced very accurately using triangulation.

The phone only has to be switched on, they use a transmitter to look for the nearest relay.

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Actually, calls can be traced very
accurately using triangulation.
The phone only has to be switched on, they use a transmitter to look for the nearest relay.

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Yes,,, 'they' can determine your general whereabouts.
ENT is claiming that in 2001 he could locate and track my mobile phone using his mobile.
Not only that but he could do it with such accuracy that he could determine what time I would arrive and decide whether to loose the hounds or send out scouts in unmarked vehicles to intercept and nail me.
FFS can anyone say CUCKOO!
Looneytunes nutty as a fruitcake.

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Oh.

Well in that case, ENT is talking out of his arse, as he is prone to do.

Given that he has all but admitted that he's a double nic and troll. why would you expect anything less?

ENT : Sloppy thinking + verbal vagueness = tendency to deny he said anything specific about a subject

Wait for it.......

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Originally Posted by Moonraker

Actually, calls can be traced very
accurately using triangulation.
The phone only has to be switched on, they use a transmitter to look for the nearest relay.

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Yes,,, 'they' can determine your general whereabouts.
ENT is claiming that in 2001 he could locate and track my mobile phone using his mobile.
Not only that but he could do it with such accuracy that he could determine what time I would arrive and decide whether to loose the hounds or send out scouts in unmarked vehicles to intercept and nail me.
FFS can anyone say CUCKOO!
Looneytunes nutty as a fruitcake.

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You are talking more shit as the thread goes on Koojo.

1) I wasn't talking about tracking you (ya must be paranoid)

2) On receiving call, I could locate your aprox whereabouts, the cell/net area.

3) The time of call was obvious. (look at the little clock)

4) Estimate distance from cell/net transmitter (indicated) to my position.

5)Estimate potential speed of traveller.(you know your local road conditions)

6) ETA

Send out welcoming committee


Now what don't you understand?

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2) On receiving call, I could locate your aprox whereabouts, the cell/net area.

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I think you are a very confused individual.

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Actually, calls can be traced very accurately using triangulation.

The phone only has to be switched on, they use a transmitter to look for the nearest relay.

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Are you trying to contradict your own post Moony?

Tut tut!

So now we know that the call location can be traced And the time is on the little clock Koojywoojy, it doesn't take much brain to get an ETA, does it?


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You will not have access to the necessary information to triangulate somebody's position from your phone.

ENT

Your red calling me a two faced wanker just goes to show how truly confused you are.

Poor thing.

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You will not have access to the necessary information to triangulate somebody's position from your phone.

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The phone server does it for you, dimwit.

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You will not have access to the necessary information to triangulate somebody's position from your phone.

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The phone server does it for you, dimwit.

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No ENT, no it doesn't.

If such a thing was available it would be a major feature that everybody would know about. If I was to call you right now, you WOULD NOT be able to tell me where I am. You would be able to tell me which country I am in, but that's it.

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ENT

Your red calling me a two faced wanker just goes to show how truly confused you are.

Poor thing.

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You are a two faced wanker.

Google :) caller ID and location dumbfuck

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Originally Posted by Moonraker

Actually, calls can be traced very
accurately using triangulation.
The phone only has to be switched on, they use a transmitter to look for the nearest relay.

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Yes,,, 'they' can determine your general whereabouts.
ENT is claiming that in 2001 he could locate and track my mobile phone using his mobile.
Not only that but he could do it with such accuracy that he could determine what time I would arrive and decide whether to loose the hounds or send out scouts in unmarked vehicles to intercept and nail me.
FFS can anyone say CUCKOO!
Looneytunes nutty as a fruitcake.

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You are talking more shit as the thread goes on Koojo.

1) I wasn't talking about tracking you (ya must be paranoid)

2) On receiving call, I could locate your aprox whereabouts, the cell/net area.

3) The time of call was obvious. (look at the little clock)

4) Estimate distance from cell/net transmitter (indicated) to my position.

5)Estimate potential speed of traveller.(you know your local road conditions)

6) ETA
Send out welcoming committee Now what don't you understand?

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bit difficult now I'm on my phone, but regarding your claim not to have claimed you tracked calls check post 428 2nd word in yellow.
Regarding the cell information. That is actually a possibility on my nokia E71, but even then it's just a number, not a location. I'd need a list of numbers and the corresponding location. The phone won't automatically give me the location. And that's MY phone. My phone can't tell me the cell information for a callers phone, and yours certainly didn't in 2001.
You're talking shit.
What's so hard to understand about that?

^ Do what I advised Moony to do, GOOGLE!

The info is all in the public domain.

Caller ID and location was available way back.

Even Blackberry had it up untill recently.

Newer versions of various brands have this facility as an option.

Police use this ability ALL the time. :)

Paranoid now?

it was certainly not avaible on any phones, even to the cops 10 years ago, which is integral to the issue here. You said you were location tracking other mobiles in 2001.
You weren't.
Why would you say that?
I think ENT is like 14 years old.
Seems to lack general knowledge and common sense.

ENT has....shall we say.....a loose relationship with facts.

So he doesn't like being pinned down to specific ones...

Perhaps it's an artist thing

You are too frightened even to look up the info on the net.

The system was publicly available ever since 2001, let alone to the PD

Simply because you were not aware of it does not imply anything other than you were not informed or just plain dumb.

Why would I mention the matter publicly?
Because it's a fact.

Now, lazy bones, just get some exercise and do some finger walking to find out the facts.

Any school kid in Chiangmai could tell you all about it, since they love their little gadgets.

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The system was publicly available ever since 2001, let alone to the PD

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What System?
And I didn't ask why you would mention it publicly.
I asked what would posses you to make such bizarre and patently untrue statements.
In other words why on earth woyld you spout such crap?

I googled that ENT. You have an amazing habit of presenting information that works against your argument.

I found something that may be able to give the approximate city (whatever that means), and something else that might be able to give you further information by cross referencing through their database.

http://gizmodo.com/5070138/caller-id...incoming-calls
http://freevcalls.blogspot.com/2010/...er-id-for.html

ENT, allow me to explain how it works. Whenever you present information, that information is supposed to SUPPORT your argument. Try it sometime.