9/11 - The 10th Anniversary

**Neo** · 12-09-2011, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by Humbert

Are you going for butch now?

I don't even know what that means, but probably not.

Dry your eyes Humbert, it surely can't be that much of a shock to you.

**robuzo** · 12-09-2011, 06:34 PM

Originally Posted by Neo

The above interview with Larry Wilkerson is excellent. The irony of the current situation in the US is that it might take a military man to begin to get us out of this mess. It has long seemed to me that the neocon crowd look upon the humiliation and embarrassment of Colin Powell as a benefit, and Cheney & Co. may have achieved an added goal by having him that presentation- that of removing a popular potential adversary.

PS: Neo, you'll go a lot further toward persuading people with that sort of thing than disrespectful, childish posting of burning flags or raving like about the US, to quote Reagan about the USSR, being the "focus of evil in the modern world." Not sure what Ronnie knew about "modern," but as bad as the USSR was it wasn't all bad (and it was damned sight worse than even the US is now until Gorby came along). You can chant "Death to America" all you like (would that be death to 300 million people? death to the noble ideas upon which an imperfect, aka human, country was founded? death to the brand?), but once you get tired of that you'll notice America is still there, you haven't convinced anyone, and your "efforts" have been vain. I guarantee you someone like Larry Wilkerson is a patriot through and through, which might, if you stopped hyperventilating for a moment, make you wonder if there isn't something good worth saving about America. Who knows, with the right argument that 40% that Wilkerson mentions could be made a more manageable 30%?

**FlyFree** · 12-09-2011, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by raycarey

Originally Posted by larvidchr

the cowardly disgusting attack on 9/11

flying a plane into a building can be be described in many ways (immoral, vicious, evil, etc...) but surely we can all agree that cowardly is not one of them.

in fact, it could reasonably be described as a courageous act. and i'm sure it is in certain quarters.

if a member of the US military had done something similar, he'd likely have his image on a postage stamp by this point.

To respond on a level you may understand : crap.

Courageous my arse. The say there's a fine line between courage and stupidity.

Mohammed doesn't do it with courage. He does it coz he's been bought with hatred, anger, the promise of martyrdom and x no of virgins - all processed by a halfapeanut as a brain. A business deal that also involves money to his family.

Most call someone who commits suicide - with no expected gains - weak and selfish. It's a mantra heard a thousand times.

But Mo is muslim, so we gotta find a story eh?.

**Neo** · 12-09-2011, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by robuzo

Neo, you'll go a lot further toward persuading people [...] once you get tired of that [...] if you stopped hyperventilating for a moment [...]

I'm not trying to persuade anyone, just ruffling the feathers of those that refuse to pull their head out of the sand. America has always been a schizophrenic nation and on it's more radical and progressive side has much to admire and respect. But there is very little that is positive about the culture it has exported in the last 20 years and I am not sad to see it's demise.

**FlyFree** · 12-09-2011, 06:50 PM

^And how do you feel about the demise of the UK and Europe?

**Neo** · 12-09-2011, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by FlyFree

^And how do you feel about the demise of the UK and Europe?

An inevitable consequence of one the US's most insidious exports, Friedman economics.

**Butterfly** · 12-09-2011, 07:13 PM

Originally Posted by Neo

America has always been a schizophrenic nation

also fits the description of most Americans actually,

**robuzo** · 12-09-2011, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by FlyFree

^And how do you feel about the demise of the UK and Europe?

Oh, of course, Neo blames it on a US "export." Those poor little Europeans, couldn't think for themselves. By the way, it's the Chicago school, in case you want to sound slightly more like you know what you are talking about, Neo.

**FlyFree** · 12-09-2011, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by Neo

Originally Posted by FlyFree

^And how do you feel about the demise of the UK and Europe?

An inevitable consequence of one the US's most insidious exports, Friedman economics.

I wasn't talking economics.

**Neo** · 12-09-2011, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by robuzo

By the way, it's the Chicago school

Is it really..? I think you'll find both terms as equally recognisable.

And as for 'working it out' the Americans still don't get it even after they've been totally butt raped by the establishment. As much as there are claims that not all Americans are dumb, the lack of affirmative action by any that might consider themselves intelligent would seem to dispel the myth.

**Neo** · 12-09-2011, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by FlyFree

Originally Posted by Neo

Originally Posted by FlyFree

^And how do you feel about the demise of the UK and Europe?

An inevitable consequence of one the US's most insidious exports, Friedman economics.

I wasn't talking economics.

Would you like some wheels for those goal posts?

**Dick** · 12-09-2011, 08:09 PM

Most families of the dead people received up to and over 1 million cash in payouts "hush money"

The whole thing stinks to high hell and seeing the kunts whimpering on Fox News , 10 year after the fact w/o even a single building completed and just a couple of well pits cuts down to size so as to not loose to much Jew real estate - makes me want to eat a nice kabab.

**Ceburat1** · 12-09-2011, 10:11 PM

In 1954 I was only 16 years old. Could not join any earlier, I tried. As it was I had to lie about my age to enlist then.

As for son and grandsons. Only had one son and he served in the U.S. Army. One grandson in the Navy and four grandsons in the Army, one of which is a West Point Graduate.

I am still waiting to hear what you did for your country beside hide in a bundle of rags.

**Stumpy** · 12-09-2011, 10:23 PM

I have followed this thread before posting as I was not sure what I wanted to say.

Two comments

1) What happened was terrible, whether here on anywhere else in the world. But we should move on. My condolences to the families who lost loved ones.

2) What I find utterly fucken pathetic is how the US takes these horrific events and markets them to become a business to sell shit. 10 years later??? Who gives a shit. Why 10 years? Whats symbolic about 10 years? I will tell you whats symbolic; Money that's what. 10 years has a Great ring to it. Its marketable. 3 years later...naaaaah, 5 years later... Naaaah, too soon. 10 years..PERFECT...tool up! I am visiting here right now and I saw stores over this weekend listing ads for 9/11 special discount sales, selling T shirts, flags, plastic shit(which was all made in China and Taiwan btw, have to keep the Gross margins up ya know). I have been besieged with every day seeing it on TV. Every sporting event had their moment. The NFL was the worst. All wore special buttons, hats or stickers. Why do I want a F'n T shirts that says 9/11 10 years later? Why in Gods name would anyone wear it? Its like you put on a shirt and said "Hey look at me, I am a F'n sheeple dolt"

I am an American born and raised but I am not a "sheeple". There are not many of us. And us few are considered traitors and not REALLY American because we are not following the lemmings off the cliff. 9/11 should have been a wake up call that no country is safe if some individual with resources wants to mess with it. The more you pound your chest and brag at the top of your lungs you are the best there will be 10X those trying to knock your teeth out.

I hope that 9/11 did not fill the US with a terrible resolve but rather allow it to be a bit more humble.

**astasinim** · 12-09-2011, 11:10 PM

^
Im sure Boonme will be along shortly to call you a liberal euro sympathiser or something similar. Shame on you JP, thats just so unpatriotic.

**rickschoppers** · 13-09-2011, 06:14 AM

^^
Agree with JP and I think you will find many Americans with the same way of thinking are in Thailand. We come here for many reasons and not being a "sheeple" is one of them. I tried to give you a green JP, but the site wouldn't let me.

**Humbert** · 13-09-2011, 06:27 AM

Originally Posted by JPPR2

What I find utterly fucken pathetic is how the US takes these horrific events and markets them to become a business to sell shit. 10 years later??? Who gives a shit. Why 10 years? Whats symbolic about 10 years? I will tell you whats symbolic; Money that's what. 10 years has a Great ring to it. Its marketable. 3 years later...naaaaah, 5 years later... Naaaah, too soon. 10 years..PERFECT...tool up! I am visiting here right now and I saw stores over this weekend listing ads for 9/11 special discount sales, selling T shirts, flags, plastic shit(which was all made in China and Taiwan

Sounds like the merchandising geniuses at home have hit a new low. Pretty sickening but sadly, I guess predictable.

**bsnub** · 13-09-2011, 06:30 AM

^^^^ I would generally agree with that post as well. America is a corporate oligarchy and that is the root of all of its problems.

**Boon Mee** · 13-09-2011, 06:32 AM

Well, JP and the rest with short & long-term memory loss coupled with a cheese-eating surrender monkey appeasement attitude - Neville Chamberlin must be your idea of a great leader?

**robuzo** · 13-09-2011, 07:29 AM

Originally Posted by JPPR2

I am visiting here right now and I saw stores over this weekend listing ads for 9/11 special discount sales, selling T shirts, flags, plastic shit(which was all made in China and Taiwan btw, have to keep the Gross margins up ya know). I have been besieged with every day seeing it on TV. Every sporting event had their moment. The NFL was the worst. All wore special buttons, hats or stickers. Why do I want a F'n T shirts that says 9/11 10 years later? Why in Gods name would anyone wear it? Its like you put on a shirt and said "Hey look at me, I am a F'n sheeple dolt"

Figures, I don't know why I just hadn't considered the merchandising. Fucking hell am I glad I missed that!

Well, time for a small palliative. May the Schwartz be with you!

**Butterfly** · 13-09-2011, 07:54 AM

Originally Posted by JPPR2

I hope that 9/11 did not fill the US with a terrible resolve but rather allow it to be a bit more humble.

well spoken,

it really sounds that the US hasn't grown up since 911, completely wrapped in an alternate reality

Obama was supposed to fix all this, but instead he is exploiting it like his fuckwit predecessor, GW "The Chimp" Bush

**Boon Mee** · 13-09-2011, 08:00 AM

Originally Posted by JPPR2

I hope that 9/11 did not fill the US with a terrible resolve but rather allow it to be a bit more humble.

Humble eh?

Humble didn't get it on the beaches of Normandy,

Humble didn't get it at Guadalcanal.

Humble didn't get it at the Battle of Vienna in 1683...

**Stumpy** · 13-09-2011, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Originally Posted by JPPR2

I hope that 9/11 did not fill the US with a terrible resolve but rather allow it to be a bit more humble.

Humble eh?

Humble didn't get it on the beaches of Normandy,

Humble didn't get it at Guadalcanal.

Humble didn't get it at the Battle of Vienna in 1683...

Spoken like a true "Drank the Kool-Aid American"......War is the answer to everything. We are like the bully with a learning disability.

What I am getting at is the US is not "King of the Hill" anymore and the old schmucks who think wars will show who is best and smartest are simply lost in a dinosaur age.

Your pictures of people falling from 9/11, while tragic, are simply tools to keep the hate alive. We learned NOTHING. They should humble us.

How does 15th year anniversary sound for T shirts. I think 20 is far more grabbing to sell more. Lets do both to capitalize on the event more. I cant wait for the "I survived 9/11" slogan.

**The Gentleman Scamp** · 13-09-2011, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by raycarey

Originally Posted by larvidchr

the cowardly disgusting attack on 9/11

flying a plane into a building can be be described in many ways (immoral, vicious, evil, etc...) but surely we can all agree that cowardly is not one of them.

in fact, it could reasonably be described as a courageous act. and i'm sure it is in certain quarters.

if a member of the US military had done something similar, he'd likely have his image on a postage stamp by this point.

Disagree.

Bin Ladens 'team' we brainwashed beyond reason and unlike us who value life, they value death and look forward to it, so from our perspective it is cowardly as fuck. Only from theirs is it courageous, hence they become martyrs.

We on the other hand would only have the same opinion of an individual who gave his life to SAVE a couple of thousand innocent people.

**robuzo** · 13-09-2011, 01:35 PM

^That's right. Their version of Islam, like some versions of Christianity, is a death cult.

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