Thread: Those peaceful reds

Originally Posted by Slopperout

the slayer general

which general was that ? Khattiya ?

Originally Posted by Myofb

Precisely. Well put.

maybe you could help with the name ?

Originally Posted by Slopperout

I think that on the whole its fair and reasonable to say that the reds protests have been peaceful.
But thats not to say that such gatherings do not get taken advantage of.

Anyway at Pattaya the reds protest was peacefull

Apparently so:


Smashing the prime minister's car, and injuring his driver is just part of peaceful expression:


Peaceful protesters, right?

You really don't have any clue what you are talking about, do you?

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

Originally Posted by Myofb

Precisely. Well put.

Really? I thought it was a large pile of deluded nonsense..

Odd how the 'May 10 Brigade' all agrees amongst each other, isn't it?

Amateurs, just as previously.

Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

Originally Posted by Slopperout

I think that on the whole its fair and reasonable to say that the reds protests have been peaceful.
But thats not to say that such gatherings do not get taken advantage of.

Anyway at Pattaya the reds protest was peacefull

Apparently so:


Smashing the prime minister's car, and injuring his driver is just part of peaceful expression:


Peaceful protesters, right?

You really don't have any clue what you are talking about, do you?

Do you?,thought not
Its self defence int it .The slayer colonel on his rampage.
Prime minister?, some unelected interloper.

Why dont you take that orange from your gob, and spare us this bilge from your love hole?

Originally Posted by Slopperout

Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

You really don't have any clue what you are talking about, do you?

Do you?,thought not

Apparently, more than you.

Those are pictures of the 'peaceful' conflict and protest in Pattaya. There's plenty more, especially of the peaceful Reds throwing large bricks into cars, etc...

Seems pretty obvious that you are just passing by, at the behest of your friends, with little understanding of what you talk about.

it's clear that the red apologists in this thread are as nasty and probably as violent as the real reds supporters.

talking with garbage like TS and Myofb is a point pointless, isn't it ? they are complete loonies,

Originally Posted by Butterfly

it's clear that the red apologists in this thread are as nasty and probably as violent as the real reds supporters.

talking with garbage like TS and Myofb is a point pointless, isn't it ? they are complete loonies,

Translation: Can't get any recognition here for my enormous intellect, these red supporters got no respect for their betters. They keep asking for things like 'rational thought' and (horror of horrors) FACTS! Outrageous, despicable phrai-lovers who don't know their rightful place is all.

^ right, facts and reds don't mix

Originally Posted by Butterfly

^ right, facts and reds don't mix

^right. Something else you didn't quite understand…


Look BF, if I am going to all the trouble to take the piss out of you, the least you could do is be angry about it rather than just not understand it. I mean… you got no dignity at all?


I could lower the cognition challenge level to subterranean and it would still go over your head.

Originally Posted by Myofb

Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

Originally Posted by Slopperout

Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

You really don't have any clue what you are talking about, do you?

Do you?,thought not

Apparently, more than you.

Those are pictures of the 'peaceful' conflict and protest in Pattaya. There's plenty more, especially of the peaceful Reds throwing large bricks into cars, etc...

Seems pretty obvious that you are just passing by, at the behest of your friends, with little understanding of what you talk about.

Hmmm.


Pattaya. Peaceful protest. Reds get attacked and defend themselves. Government says the protest is violent and starts shooting people.


Ratchaprasong. Peaceful protest largely comprised of women and children. Reds get attacked and defend themselves. Government says the protest is violent and starts shooting people.


I think I see a pattern developing. Except for the violent PAD protests and the real terrorism at the airport. The (now) government doesn't say or do very much about that at all...

It appears you're into revising history......here's a timeline of events from last year....it seems you've no clue about last years events at all....

Now, what were you saying about peaceful reds...?


Red revolt

Red revolt
Timeline: How the red-shirt protest developed and ended

Published: 14/04/2009 at 07:44 PM
Online news: Local News

March 26: Thousands of Thaksin supporters in trademark red shirts begin rallying in Bangkok, calling on Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva and his government to resign and allow fresh elections.


They are spurred on by Thaksin Shinawatra, who starts a series of almost nightly addresses to the crowd by telephone and video link.

March 27: Thaksin accuses Privy Council president Prem Tinsulanonda, privy councillors Surayud Chulanond and Charnchai Likitjitta of being behind the 2006 military coup that toppled him.

March 28: Gen Surayud rejects Thaksin's claim, saying privy councillors are not involved in politics.

April 2: Red-shirt leader Jatuporn Prompan says a mass rally planned for April 8 is aimed at pressuring Mr Abhisit, Gen Prem and the privy councillors to resign.

April 3: Thaksin refuses an invitation by Deputy Prime Minister Suthep Thaugsuban to negotiate with the government, and calls on his supporters to come out in force for a mass rally on April 8.

April 7: Mr Abhisit's car is attacked by red-shirts in Pattaya as he heads back to Bangkok after a cabinet meeting. Thaksin's three children and ex-wife leave Thailand.

April 8: More than 30,000 red-shirts rally at Government House, their main protest site.

April 9: Taxi drivers block main roads and Victory Monument, bringing the city to a halt. Mr Abhisit vows tough action against red-shirts who break the law, but no action is taken.

April 10: Thaksin's supporters, already spread out across Bangkok, launch a separate protest in the beach resort of Pattaya, where 16 Asian leaders are to meet for a major Asean-sponsored summit, with Asean chairman Thailand as the host.

April 11: Thousands of protesters storm the venue of the summit, forcing its cancellation. A state of emergency is declared as foreign leaders are evacuated - some by helicopter from the hotel roof.

April 12: A state of emergency is declared in Bangkok and surrounding areas as new anti-government demonstrations spring up. Pattaya protest leader Arisman Pongruangrong arrested in Bangkok. About 50 protesters force their way into the Interior Ministry grounds while Mr Abhisit is inside. He escapes. Thaksin says he will lead an uprising if there is a coup.

April 13: Army cracks down on protesters in Bangkok. Two people die and 123 treated for injuries in army assaults on groups of protesters and several ugly confrontations between red shirts and local people who formed neighbourhood militias.

April 14: Thousands of demonstrators who had retreated to their main camp outside Government House agree to disperse in the face of an overwhelming military operation to close down days of protests.

Government extends the three-day Songkran holiday for two more days.

don't try reality and facts on Myo and friends, it doesn't work

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

Originally Posted by Myofb

Hmmm.


Pattaya. Peaceful protest. Reds get attacked and defend themselves. Government says the protest is violent and starts shooting people.


Ratchaprasong. Peaceful protest largely comprised of women and children. Reds get attacked and defend themselves. Government says the protest is violent and starts shooting people.


I think I see a pattern developing. Except for the violent PAD protests and the real terrorism at the airport. The (now) government doesn't say or do very much about that at all...

It appears you're into revising history......here's a timeline of events from last year....it seems you've no clue about last years events at all....

Now, what were you saying about peaceful reds...?


Red revolt

Red revolt
Timeline: How the red-shirt protest developed and ended

Published: 14/04/2009 at 07:44 PM
Online news: Local News

March 26: Thousands of Thaksin supporters in trademark red shirts begin rallying in Bangkok, calling on Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva and his government to resign and allow fresh elections.


They are spurred on by Thaksin Shinawatra, who starts a series of almost nightly addresses to the crowd by telephone and video link.

March 27: Thaksin accuses Privy Council president Prem Tinsulanonda, privy councillors Surayud Chulanond and Charnchai Likitjitta of being behind the 2006 military coup that toppled him.

March 28: Gen Surayud rejects Thaksin's claim, saying privy councillors are not involved in politics.

April 2: Red-shirt leader Jatuporn Prompan says a mass rally planned for April 8 is aimed at pressuring Mr Abhisit, Gen Prem and the privy councillors to resign.

April 3: Thaksin refuses an invitation by Deputy Prime Minister Suthep Thaugsuban to negotiate with the government, and calls on his supporters to come out in force for a mass rally on April 8.

April 7: Mr Abhisit's car is attacked by red-shirts in Pattaya as he heads back to Bangkok after a cabinet meeting. Thaksin's three children and ex-wife leave Thailand.

April 8: More than 30,000 red-shirts rally at Government House, their main protest site.

April 9: Taxi drivers block main roads and Victory Monument, bringing the city to a halt. Mr Abhisit vows tough action against red-shirts who break the law, but no action is taken.

April 10: Thaksin's supporters, already spread out across Bangkok, launch a separate protest in the beach resort of Pattaya, where 16 Asian leaders are to meet for a major Asean-sponsored summit, with Asean chairman Thailand as the host.

April 11: Thousands of protesters storm the venue of the summit, forcing its cancellation. A state of emergency is declared as foreign leaders are evacuated - some by helicopter from the hotel roof.

April 12: A state of emergency is declared in Bangkok and surrounding areas as new anti-government demonstrations spring up. Pattaya protest leader Arisman Pongruangrong arrested in Bangkok. About 50 protesters force their way into the Interior Ministry grounds while Mr Abhisit is inside. He escapes. Thaksin says he will lead an uprising if there is a coup.

April 13: Army cracks down on protesters in Bangkok. Two people die and 123 treated for injuries in army assaults on groups of protesters and several ugly confrontations between red shirts and local people who formed neighbourhood militias.

April 14: Thousands of demonstrators who had retreated to their main camp outside Government House agree to disperse in the face of an overwhelming military operation to close down days of protests.

Government extends the three-day Songkran holiday for two more days.

*sigh*


Apologies to all for the lengthy quote.


The lie to this appears in line 2 of your somewhat incomplete timeline. It says:

"Online news: Local News" - 'Fess up lad, was it the Nation or the Bangkok Post?


Also, have a look at the dates: Notice they are daily event dates with the exception of: March 28th to April 2nd (gap of 4 days) and April 3rd to April 7th (gap of 3 days). What happened in these gaps that the news source might have wanted to omit do you think? Nothing of significance? Everyone went home for a cup of tea and a nice lie down?


Also note that the gaps immediately precede the 2 significant events of the series: Jatuporn calling for a mass rally and Abhisit's car being jostled, an event he later exaggerated into an "assassination attempt", the self-important little prick.


Your case is as hollow as your claim to having elevated status in forensic psychology. Do the work SD, if you're going to start a gunfight, bring your gun.

Why don't you know?

I was here. I witnessed events on those days.

Where were you?

I know what happened, so I can attest to the timeline.

How about you?

You're clutching at straws....

Oh and you've resorted to more insults and put downs.

Originally Posted by DaffyDuck

Anyway at Pattaya the reds protest was peacefull

You love misquoting people on here, just to twist what they said to suit your agenda.

Here is what the guy really wrote.

Anyway at Pattaya the reds protest was peacefull untill they were attacked by the blueshirts

Quite a low and desperate trick, even by your standards.

Dan Rivers (danieljerivers) on Twitter

He's wearing army style fatigues but was at Ratchadamri BTS with other militia amid the redshirt protest - others wearing black
4 minutes ago via TweetDeck

Man in black from my report - anyone know who this guy is? Twitpic - Share photos on Twitter Sure the Thai govt would like to know
12 minutes ago via TweetDeck

My report on MiB and temple shooting on again at 11.10 am on CNN - sorry not available online due to rights restrictions from owner of pix.
16 minutes ago via TweetDeck

On CNN at 7.12 pm Thai time - new footage of men in black up close and identifiable - plus shooting in the temple examined...
about 18 hours ago via TweetDeck

^Thats the video - not online though, a pity. Very damning evidence.

Originally Posted by BKKBoet

^Thats the video - not online though, a pity. Very damning evidence.

Evidence of what?

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

Oh and you've resorted to more insults and put downs.

Put-downs perhaps but not insults… just like Abhisit, you like to provoke and then whinge and bawl and cry foul when you get your ass kicked back. Some unkind soul might call that an adequacy problem, I recognise it as alpha-games - you have something to prove. The question is (as it is with all betas who want to be alphas), who are you trying to impress? Yourself or other people?


Me, I just trundle along learning about other people's pov, accepting some points, rejecting others and marvelling at the diversity of intellect. There are some smart people in here, some unbelievably dumb people, and then there's the really interesting category into which you and Butterfly fit but people like DD and ENT don't, much though they would like to.


That's the category of people who are smart enough to do well, but just can't overcome their emotional needs and waywardness. So they fail at most things but usually think they have succeeded and get increasingly bitter that other people don't agree. So they vent their spite in anonymous forums like this one and become trolls - always grumpy and bitter that other folk don't recognise what they believe is their true genius.


These people are usually the injured ones who have been unable to heal themselves. You know about these because you're one of them.


What's really and truly interesting about it is that you are smart enough to know it, though of course your emotional and self-esteem needs won't let you admit it.


Broken.

Originally Posted by Myofb

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

Oh and you've resorted to more insults and put downs.

Put-downs perhaps but not insults… just like Abhisit, you like to provoke and then whinge and bawl and cry foul when you get your ass kicked back. Some unkind soul might call that an adequacy problem, I recognise it as alpha-games - you have something to prove. The question is (as it is with all betas who want to be alphas), who are you trying to impress? Yourself or other people?


Me, I just trundle along learning about other people's pov, accepting some points, rejecting others and marvelling at the diversity of intellect. There are some smart people in here, some unbelievably dumb people, and then there's the really interesting category into which you and Butterfly fit but people like DD and ENT don't, much though they would like to.


That's the category of people who are smart enough to do well, but just can't overcome their emotional needs and waywardness. So they fail at most things but usually think they have succeeded and get increasingly bitter that other people don't agree. So they vent their spite in anonymous forums like this one and become trolls - always grumpy and bitter that other folk don't recognise what they believe is their true genius.


These people are usually the injured ones who have been unable to heal themselves. You know about these because you're one of them.


What's really and truly interesting about it is that you are smart enough to know it, though of course your emotional and self-esteem needs won't let you admit it.


Broken.

Like I said...

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

Oh and you've resorted to more insults and put downs.

Oh and btw, when you manage to kick my arse back, please alert me to the fact, as I've yet to witness such an event and I'm just dying to know what such a thing looks like.

You really are quite delusional.

All you've got are poorly worded put downs and insults.

Here's a nice smilie, which describes you to a tee...

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

Red revolt
Timeline: How the red-shirt protest developed and ended

Published: 14/04/2009 at 07:44 PM
Online news: Local News

March 26: Thousands of Thaksin supporters in trademark red shirts begin rallying in Bangkok, calling on Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva and his government to resign and allow fresh elections.


They are spurred on by Thaksin Shinawatra, who starts a series of almost nightly addresses to the crowd by telephone and video link.

March 27: Thaksin accuses Privy Council president Prem Tinsulanonda, privy councillors Surayud Chulanond and Charnchai Likitjitta of being behind the 2006 military coup that toppled him.

March 28: Gen Surayud rejects Thaksin's claim, saying privy councillors are not involved in politics.

April 2: Red-shirt leader Jatuporn Prompan says a mass rally planned for April 8 is aimed at pressuring Mr Abhisit, Gen Prem and the privy councillors to resign.

April 3: Thaksin refuses an invitation by Deputy Prime Minister Suthep Thaugsuban to negotiate with the government, and calls on his supporters to come out in force for a mass rally on April 8.

April 7: Mr Abhisit's car is attacked by red-shirts in Pattaya as he heads back to Bangkok after a cabinet meeting. Thaksin's three children and ex-wife leave Thailand.

April 8: More than 30,000 red-shirts rally at Government House, their main protest site.

April 9: Taxi drivers block main roads and Victory Monument, bringing the city to a halt. Mr Abhisit vows tough action against red-shirts who break the law, but no action is taken.

April 10: Thaksin's supporters, already spread out across Bangkok, launch a separate protest in the beach resort of Pattaya, where 16 Asian leaders are to meet for a major Asean-sponsored summit, with Asean chairman Thailand as the host.

April 11: Thousands of protesters storm the venue of the summit, forcing its cancellation. A state of emergency is declared as foreign leaders are evacuated - some by helicopter from the hotel roof.

April 12: A state of emergency is declared in Bangkok and surrounding areas as new anti-government demonstrations spring up. Pattaya protest leader Arisman Pongruangrong arrested in Bangkok. About 50 protesters force their way into the Interior Ministry grounds while Mr Abhisit is inside. He escapes. Thaksin says he will lead an uprising if there is a coup.

April 13: Army cracks down on protesters in Bangkok. Two people die and 123 treated for injuries in army assaults on groups of protesters and several ugly confrontations between red shirts and local people who formed neighbourhood militias.

April 14: Thousands of demonstrators who had retreated to their main camp outside Government House agree to disperse in the face of an overwhelming military operation to close down days of protests.

Government extends the three-day Songkran holiday for two more days.

I do notice a pattern - indeed:

- government trying to negotiate, Reds rejecting any such overtures.
- local neighborhood militias and action groups kicking the Reds' ass.
- Red protesters trying to storm and damage buildings.
- Oh, and Thaksin's family always conveniently leaved the country, at the same time.

Yes, a pattern, indeed.

StrontiumDog, you need to shut the fuck up and stop feeding the troll, you are better than that

between Quack Quack and myofb posting non-sense, the news section is becoming unreadable

can we have the old news mod back ?

Originally Posted by BKKBoet

^Thats the video - not online though, a pity. Very damning evidence.

This ought to be ending up in an interesting dish of crow, prepared especially for the likes of Myofb, and his red loving Cylon friends, as they try to explain that rather damning evidence away.

This debate is bound to backfire on PT for bringing out this evidence. Whoops!

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

Oh and you've resorted to more insults and put downs.

Shocking - I am shocked, I tell you, shocked. After he condemned the use of put down and insults, to see him engage in the same. Wait, maybe they aren't really insults. Maybe they are just admonishments. Words, you know, are powerful ;-)

PM is at the moment putting forward pretty compelling evidence, during the no confidence debate, of armed force used by certain of the protesters.

He says it is that which differentiates this from previous massacres; in none of those was the govt faced with armed resistance. If there had not been any this time, people probably would not have died.

By the way, I have notice how a lot of people on this thread revert to insults and denegraiton of posters without debating the facts put forward, it makes their side of the argument look pretty weak.