Would 7000 Thais help you to stay?

**Smeg** · 11-07-2006, 08:03 PM

To me, this story is a typical example of what culturally separates Britain from Thailand, and makes Britain so amazing.

How many Thais would go out of their way to keep a Brit in Thailand after being released from prison?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/s...st/5073854.stm

Show of support for Thai deportee

Sakchai Makao has lived on the island since he was 10

A third of the population of Shetland has signed a petition calling for the release of young Thai man who is facing deportation from the UK.
Sakchai Makao, 23, who has lived on the island since he was 10, was taken from his home in Lerwick a week ago and is being held at Durham Jail.
He is awaiting deportation as a foreign national with a criminal record.
A protest of support was held outside the Scottish Parliament on Tuesday and there will be a rally in Lerwick later.
'Out with character'
Mr Makao's lawyer is appealing against the deportation notice and hopes to secure his release from prison on bail.
His detention is believed to be part of Home Office efforts to trace foreign nationals who have a criminal record.
The sports centre worker and talented athlete was jailed for 15 months in 2004 for fire-raising.
A major campaign has been launched in Shetland to fight the deportation. More than 7,000 Shetland islanders have backed his case.

Mr Makao was taken from his Lerwick home to prison in Durham

Shetland MSP Tavish Scott, the transport minister, joined more than 20 supporters of Mr Makao outside the Scottish Parliament.
Mr Scott said: "I want to reflect the strength of feeling on Shetland about people's views on how this young Shetlander has been treated.
"We all hope that bail will be granted and that he will be released with the help of his lawyers and all others who support him."
One protester, Chris Jamieson, 24, from Edinburgh, who went to school on Shetland with Mr Makao, said: "He was such a lovely guy, so much time for everybody, and nobody had a bad word to say about him.
'Government scapegoat'
"The incident was of course a dangerous crime and he was duly sentenced. But it was absolutely out with his character."
Scottish National Party MEP Alyn Smith has raised the case in the European Parliament.
He is calling on the European justice commissioner to step in and investigate whether Mr Makao's human rights have been infringed.
Mr Makao's lawyer, Alexandra Bartrope, claims he has been detained because of a "knee-jerk reaction" by the government to foreign criminals.
She told BBC Scotland: "I think it is a case of panic situations and, without much thought to the immigration rules, they have gone and detained Sakchai.
"It would seem that the immigration rules have been put to one side and it is a political decision that has been made here. "Given that Sakchai has now been in detention for seven days, I will be making a bail application to ask for his temporary release." The Home Office said it could not comment on individual cases.

**dirtydog** · 11-07-2006, 08:07 PM

was jailed for 15 months in 2004 for fire-raising.

15 months it must have been one hell of a fire, somebodies house or property, I say deport the git.

**Smeg** · 11-07-2006, 08:08 PM

Equally impressive is that common sense usually prevails in the UK, unlike here.

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/leg...cle1166532.ece

Local hero: Shetland islanders celebrate as Thai man caught up in foreign prisoners row beats deportation threat and wins his right to stay

By Maxine Frith, Social Affairs Correspondent

Published: 08 July 2006

A young Thai man facing deportation from his Shetland home has won his fight to stay in Britain following a campaign by the local community.

**mrsquirrel** · 11-07-2006, 08:09 PM

Fuck it get rid of him

He might buy land or start a business.

Why is he living on the fucking shetlands anyway?

Arsehole of a place to live that.

**Smeg** · 11-07-2006, 08:10 PM

Dougal should let him know what a hole the UK is

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uklatest/s...937202,00.html

"I didn't really want to think about the possibility of going back to Thailand because it would have been really hard to start all over again. When I get back to Shetland I am just going to go and thank everyone for everything. I think everyone will be there to see me arrive."

**Smeg** · 11-07-2006, 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by mrsquirrel

Why is he living on the fucking shetlands anyway?

Arsehole of a place to live that.

Why not ask him if he wants to swap citizenship with you? I rekon he'd jump at the chance

**lom** · 11-07-2006, 08:21 PM

Originally Posted by dirtydog

15 months it must have been one hell of a fire, somebodies house or property, I say deport the git.

Seconded. Deport him to Wales

**NickA** · 11-07-2006, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by Smeg

More than 7,000 Shetland islanders have backed his case.

It's new slang to me, but I get the picture...

No wonder they wanted him to stay, he's the only Asian rent boy in the Shetlands.

No wonder he wants to stay, he must be doing good trade!

**mad_dog** · 11-07-2006, 08:41 PM

Wasn't there a paedophile ring up on one of those islands? He still looks quite young .... the poor lad is probably getting buggered by 7,000 of it managers ilk ... I say deport the lad for his own good!

**Smeg** · 11-07-2006, 08:43 PM

^^ Hmm, and people wonder why westerner expats in Thailand have a reputation of being obsessed with sex....

**NickA** · 11-07-2006, 08:46 PM

Oh, sorry, I must have lived in a different England to you where nobody makes silly jokes about sex and ladyboys and toilet humour and blacks and Irish and.....

**Smeg** · 11-07-2006, 08:50 PM

^

**Bangkok Phil** · 11-07-2006, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by Smeg

^^ Hmm, and people wonder why westerner expats in Thailand have a reputation of being obsessed with sex....

Are you still in Thailand mate?

**NickA** · 11-07-2006, 08:52 PM

^^

**Begbie** · 11-07-2006, 08:55 PM

He's been in Scotland since he was 10 years old so he hardly fits the profile of the foreign criminal that the tabloids have been up in arms over.

The only thing I don't understand is why he hasn't changed his nationality.

Rentboys ? I thought their services were monopolised by conservative MPs. None in Shetland.

**Smeg** · 11-07-2006, 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by Begbie

The only thing I don't understand is why he hasn't changed his nationality.

Can he?

I have Thai friends who are in the same situation (but not the crim bit). Actually they went in their early teens with their father and grandmother to open a Thai restaurant. The father is dead now and the kids (now in their 20s) are still in the UK with granny (and granny gets a pension and free flat!)

They actually beg me to see sense by working only in the UK and holidaying in Thailand, as they do and intend to continue doing.

**thaigirly** · 11-07-2006, 11:00 PM

i saw this on tv a few weeks ago. i'm pleased that someone is making a stand. i have a good thai friend who has lived in the uk for 14 years and has had indefinite leave to remain since 1998. 4 years ago she was arrested for assisting to run a brothel (her involvement was taking a couple of the girls to the doctor, as she spoke better english than them). she pleaded guilty and got a brief term of imprisonment. no recommendation for deportation was made. she left prison, resumed working, paying tax, being a wife and mother and so on.

a couple of months ago, when the effluent came into contact with the ventilation system at the home office, she was suddenly arrested at home in front of her kids at 7am and served deportation papers. she eventually got bail, despite some seriously underhand tactics by the immigration department (telling the tribunal that her whereabouts were unknown so no bail hearing could take place, moving the tribunal 200 miles north and with 12 hours notice). she got bail, the ind got all the conditions wrong which resulted in her (briefly) being wanted by the police for breach of bail (sorted out without a further arrest). she opted to go back to los, bought flight tickets for her and her children (husband will spend half the time in uk, and half in los) and arranged for ind to return her passport.

ind turned up at home and said "we've lost your passport. there you go. that's it." she goes to the airport for her flight, having had to sort out her documentation with the thai embassy. on arrival, ind tell her she is being deported, having previously agreed to a voluntary departure, meaning that they get the figures for their stats but she paid for the flights.

political desperation by a failing government in the death throes, and a department 'not fit for purpose', according to its own minister. disgraceful.

**stroller** · 11-07-2006, 11:20 PM

Brit immigration is notorious.
Blair's admin is a fascist regime.

To be fair, they are pressured by the racist Sun readers to do something about the Muslims, Blacks, Asians, etc.

**Spin** · 11-07-2006, 11:21 PM

Originally Posted by thaigirly

meaning that they get the figures for their stats but she paid for the flights.

Love this bit, it brings a big smile to my face.

it's exactly the sort of shite that you would expect to read about a farang in Thailand.

Nice to see a Thai national get a fucking good shafting in the Uk.

**dirtydog** · 11-07-2006, 11:37 PM

He should be rearrested for working without a work permit and then locked up untill his court case and then made to pay his deportation fee

**attaboy** · 12-07-2006, 02:20 AM

Local hero: Shetland islanders celebrate as Thai man caught up in foreign prisoners row beats deportation threat and wins his right to stay

Local hero? What did he do burn down the town bully's house?

**endure** · 12-07-2006, 03:07 AM

"The reason Mr Makao is now in jail dates back to 2 February, 2002 when, aged 20, he set fire to a car and a portable building belonging to a local fishmongers, causing damage estimated at more than £40,000. He later pleaded guilty to two charges of culpable and reckless fireraising. The court heard that at the time he was drunk and acting with another person.
His solicitor said it was "two moments of madness" and the procurator-fiscal admitted his behaviour was out of character. In January, 2004 Mr Makao was jailed for 15 months for his first offence, ultimately serving eight months, although no threat of deportation was raised.
Friends attribute Mr Makao's lapse to "serious personal difficulties" at the time. His step- father had died suddenly of lung cancer and, shortly before the fireraising incident, a baby he had with a long-time girlfriend died only hours after being born"

**mrsquirrel** · 12-07-2006, 05:57 AM

I can't believe there are 7,000 people on the SHeltand Islands

I thought there were only horses up there.

**Eliminator** · 12-07-2006, 07:06 AM

What I can't be;ieve is they want to deport guys like this and leave the muslim fundementalist in. Should deport the 400,000 muslims that support the actions of these bombers.

**hirondelle** · 12-07-2006, 09:17 AM

there are 400,000 muslim fundamentalists in the shetlands? gosh how things change when you live abroad

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