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    The universe is a giant hologram

    DRIVING through the countryside south of Hanover, it would be easy to miss the GEO600 experiment. From the outside, it doesn't look much: in the corner of a field stands an assortment of boxy temporary buildings, from which two long trenches emerge, at a right angle to each other, covered with corrugated iron. Underneath the metal sheets, however, lies a detector that stretches for 600 metres.

    For the past seven years, this German set-up has been looking for gravitational waves - ripples in space-time thrown off by super-dense astronomical objects such as neutron stars and black holes. GEO600 has not detected any gravitational waves so far, but it might inadvertently have made the most important discovery in physics for half a century.

    For many months, the GEO600 team-members had been scratching their heads over inexplicable noise that is plaguing their giant detector. Then, out of the blue, a researcher approached them with an explanation. In fact, he had even predicted the noise before he knew they were detecting it. According to Craig Hogan, a physicist at the Fermilab particle physics lab in Batavia, Illinois, GEO600 has stumbled upon the fundamental limit of space-time - the point where space-time stops behaving like the smooth continuum Einstein described and instead dissolves into "grains", just as a newspaper photograph dissolves into dots as you zoom in. "It looks like GEO600 is being buffeted by the microscopic quantum convulsions of space-time," says Hogan.

    If this doesn't blow your socks off, then Hogan, who has just been appointed director of Fermilab's Center for Particle Astrophysics, has an even bigger shock in store: "If the GEO600 result is what I suspect it is, then we are all living in a giant cosmic hologram."

    The idea that we live in a hologram probably sounds absurd, but it is a natural extension of our best understanding of black holes, and something with a pretty firm theoretical footing. It has also been surprisingly helpful for physicists wrestling with theories of how the universe works at its most fundamental level.

    The holograms you find on credit cards and banknotes are etched on two-dimensional plastic films. When light bounces off them, it recreates the appearance of a 3D image. In the 1990s physicists Leonard Susskind and Nobel prizewinner Gerard 't Hooft suggested that the same principle might apply to the universe as a whole.

    Our everyday experience might itself be a holographic projection of physical processes that take place on a distant, 2D surface.

    The "holographic principle" challenges our sensibilities. It seems hard to believe that you woke up, brushed your teeth and are reading this article because of something happening on the boundary of the universe. No one knows what it would mean for us if we really do live in a hologram, yet theorists have good reasons to believe that many aspects of the holographic principle are true.

    Hurt your brain with more here: Our world may be a giant hologram - space - 15 January 2009 - New Scientist
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    More like dwarves with learning disabilities....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerbil
    Hurt your brain with more here
    Thanks for sharing that, a little over my head but interesting none the less.

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    Ultimately what you're saying is that we as 'human beings' are ultimately meaningless and pointless. Ants, nothingness on a cosmic blip.

    This isn't news really, the ideology has been around for years.

    But hey, thanks for cheering me up!

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    Also thanks for the info.

    When I read it I immediately thought of a striking parallel in an older discovery. Reading the full article I found the author had thought of it too.


    So what would it mean it if holographic noise has been found? Cramer likens it to the discovery of unexpected noise by an antenna at Bell Labs in New Jersey in 1964. That noise turned out to be the cosmic microwave background, the afterglow of the big bang fireball. "Not only did it earn Arno Penzias and Robert Wilson a Nobel prize, but it confirmed the big bang and opened up a whole field of cosmology," says Cramer.
    Bell Labs were also putting a lot of effort into eliminating that bothersome noise until it was pointed out to them it is no fault of their equipment but the cosmic background noise.

    Remember COBE?
    The Cosmic Background Explorer Satellite.
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    So my world as I know it is actually 2D and not 3D?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plan B View Post
    So my world as I know it is actually 2D and not 3D?
    No it would be a 3D hologram projected from a 2D carrier like ordinary holograms.

    I would assume it is only an imperfect analogy because I don't see myself as only the projection of something.

    Quote Originally Posted by filch View Post
    Ultimately what you're saying is that we as 'human beings' are ultimately meaningless and pointless. Ants, nothingness on a cosmic blip.

    This isn't news really, the ideology has been around for years.

    But hey, thanks for cheering me up!
    We have lost the place in the center of the universe long ago. This discovery if validated would not affect my self perception.

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    So what they are proposing is that matter is only a projection of energy and therefore the universe as we know it is only a holographic projection of the energy released in the Big Bang.

    Disintegration rays here we come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takeovers
    We have lost the place in the center of the universe long ago. This discovery if validated would not affect my self perception.
    quite true.

    fascinating stuff nonetheless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingwilly
    fascinating stuff nonetheless.
    Very much so.

    We don't get really novel concepts often. Even if it is proven to be false. That's the way science works.

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    The half full bottle of scotch that's being sitting temptingly on my desk all week is actually a 3D energy projection of a 2D mass. If I drink double shots of this 2D mass I could, theoretically, experience the 4th dimension?

    I think that theory needs testing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plan B
    I think that theory needs testing.
    Please do so. Come back tomorow and tell us if you have verified or falsified that theory. Should make great science.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plan B
    The half full bottle of scotch that's being sitting temptingly on my desk all week is actually a 3D energy projection of a 2D mass. If I drink double shots of this 2D mass I could, theoretically, experience the 4th dimension? I think that theory needs testing.
    damn, that deserves a green but i really outta red you for indiscriminate redding!

    hmmmmm

    what to do?

    tick tock tick tock

    which one will it be?

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    ^ Whichever you choose it'll only be a worthless hologram projection. But such thinking would only make CMN and his anti-rep stance seem correct. So don't mention that to him.

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