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    It's a 2013 Triumph Speed Triple SE 1050cc

    The SE stands for Special Edition and only 200 were made in the UK and I believe 15 of them were shipped to Thailand.

    The difference is the blue subframe, matte gun metal graphite paint and a bunch of carbon bits. No performance upgrades.

    As it was imported it came with a hefty price tag of 1,050,000 baht. I got a cracking deal on it from the original owner about 4 years ago, with only 7,500kms on the clock.

    The New Speed Triple RS models are 1200cc and made in Thailand, they come with a very nice price tag of 7XX,XXX baht.

    I was riding a HD Nightster 1200cc when the first Thailand built Street Triple 675 was kept in Thailand without being reimported with tax on it. The 2015 model went from 750,000 baht overnight to 460,000 baht and I was first in Thailand to buy one, 3 months before it was released.

    I've got my eyes on a Triumph Rocket III Black

    Bit of a Triumph fanboy...

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    Lang may yer lum reek...

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    ^ I should probably get a street fighter style like that. They just look less suicidal than a sport bike. My wife might not be too thrilled with a sport bike.

    But I like RPM. I want rev past 10,000+ RPM. Thats why I like R6's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    These riders are not exceeding the physical ability of the bike to hold the road and aren't even getting close to that threshold.
    And you know this how ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    I want rev past 10,000+ RPM
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fondles View Post
    And you know this how ?
    It is self evident. And there's a ton of evidence for it. Including from ppl who have crashed themselves. Including this person

    Failure to Negotiate the Curve

    Like most single-rider accidents, my accident occurred on a curve. Most non-riders think cornering accidents happen because the rider is going too fast for the curve. In fact, it’s generally the case the speed isn’t too fast for the curve, but perhaps too fast for the rider’s skill level. A motorcycle can take curves at incredibly high speeds, but it takes skill and focus to do this. In my case, I was probably going 30 mph in a curve that was signed at 35 mph.

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    It is reported that 57% of the total fatal single motorcycle crashes occur on curves, although they represent only about 6% of the total road network.

    In the United States, there are as many as three times the number of more severe crashes along curves compared to crashes at tangent sections (Khan, 2012). Smaiah et al. reports that more than 50% of the powered two-wheeler crashes occur in bends due to loss of control. They also mention that in France almost a third of the total motorcycle crashes in curves are fatal.

    Investigation of speed and trajectory of motorcycle riders at curved road sections of two-lane rural roads under diverse lighting conditions - ScienceDirect

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    It is reported that 57% of the total fatal single motorcycle crashes occur on curves, although they represent only about 6% of the total road network.
    Err...a statement of the obvious. Same for cars or anything else I reckon. Happens when going too fast in a curve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    It is self evident. .

    As I thought, you don't know.

    Just flapping your cum stained lips again..... as usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fondles View Post
    As I thought, you don't know.

    Just flapping your cum stained lips again..... as usual.
    I do know. And you probably do too. You are just being a fuckhead like usual.

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    The riders are going too fast for their riding ability.

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    This rider is not going fast. But he tries to keep the bike upright and he cant even come close to making the turn. It is a very gradual curve on a double lane highway. Would he have made the turn going 15 kh/m ? Yes. But you cannot ride at 15 km/h on the highway. The guy in front of him knows what he's doing and takes the turn with ease.

    But after this accident everyone probably thought hey, he went too fast through the curve. This is what is happening with most of these tourist on motorcycle accidents in curves.


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    Here's another one. He cant even begin to get the bike to turn. He just rides it right into the rail. If you cant even start turning the bike, how could you possibly say that speed was the cause of the accident ? Counter steering and leaning is relevant at anything over 15 km/h. And this guy didn't know it.

    But in the aftermath, obviously people will think we had another Valentino Rossi here, who went way too fast around the curve. Bikes are dangerous, don't you know..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    I do know. And you probably do too. You are just being a fuckhead like usual.
    How do you know, Did you witness the accident and the events leading up to it personally ?

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    Another one. The gif makes it look faster than in it is. The dashcam shows the speed of the truck at 28 mph. It is a double lane highway.

    No countersteer, no lean, no turn. The bike is hardly turning at all. It turns just a little before he hits the guard rail.


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    ^ Can the mods rename the thread Backspin Countersteers?

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    Is there any topic where skiddy doesn't prove himself to be a clueless-retarded moron?



    This thread needs to be flushed down the shitter.

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    So skiddy, if these guys don't have a clue how to take a bend why don't we see the accidents at the first bend down the road from the bike shop?

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    Agree to disagree and move on. This thread only needs cleaned up. All bike talk in one place is a good idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirk diggler View Post
    Agree to disagree and move on. This thread only needs cleaned up. All bike talk in one place is a good idea.
    yep, he's blowing his own thread, silly boy

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    Maybe he should learn how to properly ride a motorcycle before starting a thread about them.

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    Everyone comes in hot and hits the brakes once.

    Not everyone gets a second chance to accelerate out of the next one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirk diggler View Post
    Counter steering is simple flicking the bike to the left before turning right (and vise-versa) to initiate the gyroscopic inertia to give you a tighter turning angle with better traction and a more grounded lean.
    I thought it is pushing down on the right grip to turn right. The opposite of say a bicycle.

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    Countersteering is used by single-track vehicle operators, such as cyclists and motorcyclists, to initiate a turn toward a given direction by momentarily steering counter to the desired direction ("steer left to turn right"). To negotiate a turn successfully, the combined center of mass of the rider and the single-track vehicle must first be leaned in the direction of the turn, and steering briefly in the opposite direction causes that lean.[1] The rider's action of countersteering is sometimes referred to as "giving a steering command".[2][3]: 15 
    The scientific literature does not provide a clear and comprehensive definition of countersteering. In fact, "a proper distinction between steer torque and steer angle ... is not always made.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countersteering

    Either way it should come naturally.

    Like riding a bike

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    I tried to count, 30+ as often had a trail/enduro bike or two as well as road.

    Had a liking for Kawasaki fours, then a change to Harleys 1993 through to 1999 when I bought a 1998 Triumph Trident 900 triple (as below but not my own pic) - that was their last year of manufacture bought new 1999 in New Zealand.

    Suited me, set up for touring and liked the seating position, briefly had a Speed Triple 900 but regretted selling the Trident.

    Stayed with Triumph though, added a cylinder and bought a Speed Four 600 in 2006, my last bike before departing NZ, intention at the time wasn't to be away forever and left it in the care of the friend whose riding capabilities didn't match the bike he managed to crash it in the fourth month, no other vehicle involved a slide in the wet, fully covered by insurance, which as it eventuated suited me fine $$.

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