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    Quote Originally Posted by Fondles View Post
    So the lad crashed and died because he did not know how to countersteer ?

    I thought it was cause he was pissed but am curious to know how you know he did not know how to ride.
    The typical brainless karen response to every motorcycle accident is muh alcohol and muh speed. Nobody actually thinks about what the fuck is going on.

    I wouldn't be saying any of this if the witness of the accident didn't clearly state that it happened in a curve. Not a corner. Not an intersection. A fucking curve. What is your explanation ? Do you think that bike cant take curves very good ?

    Even when someone is drunk, something actually has to cause it. Drunks who know how to ride who wreck, usually miss stop signs or red lights. Or get hit in traffic.

    Don't tell me you've never ridden pissed before. Do you just suddenly forget how to ride and just point the bike at the nearest stationary object and crash into it through a curve ?

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    Swede dies in motorbike crash just 5 days after meeting Thai girlfriend

    Hmmm wonder what happened ....

    A 50-year-old Swedish national died immediately after his motorcycle overshot a curve in Roi Et’s Suwannaphum district on Saturday, just five days after he met his Thai girlfriend.

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    Motorbike crash kills Phuket man | Thaiger

    Mar 2, 2023 — This tragedy comes after another motorbike crash in Thailand killed a ... He had reportedly crashed his motorbike while navigating a curve.

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    https://www.thephuketnews.com/woman-...road-87553.php

    Mar 22, 2023 — Officers believe the motorbike was travelling at high speed when the driver lost control on the curve

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    5 of the Most Dangerous, Accident-Prone Roads in Bangkok


    1. The Curve in Front of Ratchada Shrine


    According to recent information from the Accident Research Center in Thailand (June 10, 2022), Bangkok’s most dangerous, accident-prone road is the curve in front of the famous Ratchada Shrine, AKA “The Curve of 100 Bodies”.

    3. The Curve on Rama 6 Expressway
    The exit point on the Bangkhlo-Chaengwattana leg of this expressway sees accidents frequently as the road descends towards the facade of Samsen School, before the Tipco Building, in a straight path

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    The typical brainless karen response to every motorcycle accident is muh alcohol and muh speed. Nobody actually thinks about what the fuck is going on.

    I wouldn't be saying any of this if the witness of the accident didn't clearly state that it happened in a curve. Not a corner. Not an intersection. A fucking curve. What is your explanation ? Do you think that bike cant take curves very good ?

    Even when someone is drunk, something actually has to cause it. Drunks who know how to ride who wreck, usually miss stop signs or red lights. Or get hit in traffic.

    Don't tell me you've never ridden pissed before. Do you just suddenly forget how to ride and just point the bike at the nearest stationary object and crash into it through a curve ?
    You can talk about countersteer bollocks all you like but if you carry too much speed into a bend nothing is going to save you.
    To be honest, I have never really thought how I have steered into bends,, most important thing fo me is to setup correctly for the bend and accelerate round it, never even knew I moved the bars, just automatic with the lean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    They dont know how to counter steer. They steer the wrong way ,
    I'm not sure you can fight the counter steer? That is about the laws of physics which are immutable. Maybe fighting against it is the problem. Not the application of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Was big into mortorcycles in the 60s and 70s. I did buy a motoscooter, Honda Forsa, here a couple years back but never used much so gave it to the son in law. Back in the day,

    My first which grew to 5 over next few years.

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    I was almost as excited as Cyrille when he sees a camel.

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    I will say I have known guy wh've ridden for years and did not understand countersteering. Riding a motorcycle well is an art. Speeding around an unknown corner where the cambre/surface arc angle can change is stupidity.
    I pretty well stick to Jap bikes although I am a lover of the 60 and 70s Brit bikes. I did have an 850cc mark 2 commando that I regret selling. I hve ridden an F4 MV and can see why most have few miles on them. My mate has an MV 850. every time it breaks down the parts have to come from Italy. It's lovely bike to look at like the F4 but to me they are really track bikes. The Penagale is another beautiful bike but you could cook a leg of lamb strapped to your leg. I nearly bought one until they told me a service was $1500.
    A good honest fast reliable bike is the GSX1000. I did have a GSX 750 until my son wrote it off. These days I like pretty well anything in a Japanese transverse 4 configuration. Love some of the BMWs but they have too many reliability issues. My current ride is a 2003 Vstar 1100 but am thinking of getting back onto a sports bike as I really ride more than 100 k/m at a time these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VocalNeal View Post
    I'm not sure you can fight the counter steer? That is about the laws of physics which are immutable. Maybe fighting against it is the problem. Not the application of it.
    I think the video was misleading on what counter steering actually is.

    Counter steering is simple flicking the bike to the left before turning right (and vise-versa) to initiate the gyroscopic inertia to give you a tighter turning angle with better traction and a more grounded lean.

    That's the way I see it anyway.

    I do it subconsciously cos it's more fun, wether I need to or not.
    Lang may yer lum reek...

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    None of it matters if you are riding like a wanker on an unfamiliar road

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    I've been so busy lately my bike has been a bit neglected. Although she was in the shop for a few wee touch ups, new rear tire and and had her rims repainted.

    She's 10 years old now and hasn't missed a beat.

    Got a ride up to Krabi on the 23rd, canna fkn wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    Mach 111.
    The widow maker. Terrible handling coupled with a two stroke that when it "came on the pipe" if you didn't hang on tight, you were picking asphalt out of your ass.

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    ^ Yes. All true but a thrill when I was young and bullet proof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugh Cow View Post
    A good honest fast reliable bike is the GSX1000.
    Had a Gixxer 1000 for a little while, was a weapon.
    Had to sell it as it I have no self constraint..... it would have killed me !!


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    ^^ I never had the chance to ride the mach 111, which is probably just as well. There were a lot of bike enthusiasts when I was in the forces, so I got the chance to ride a lot of different bikes. A good sample of all the Japanese 2 strokes up to 250 but only Suzuki gt380, gt500 and gt750 above.
    The Goldstar reminded me of the BSA super rocket that a friend had. It was quite a machine for its time. However, most of us preferred the newer Japanese machines.
    I had many favourites, all for different reasons.
    Honda 400f will always stand out because it handled so well.
    CX500 and CB750k6 because I took them round the IoM on mad Sunday.
    GPZ750A1 because it was a great workhorse, rode over 20,000 miles a year on it for several years.

    I had a Moto Guzzi Le Mans 2, which was fun to ride but a pain in the arse, hated the cold and went through back tyres way too often.
    Friend had a Ducati desmo 900 around the same time, I took a dislike to it after it set my jeans on fire from carb backfire doing emergency brake.
    We didn't keep the Italian bikes for long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Was big into mortorcycles in the 60s and 70s. I did buy a motoscooter, Honda Forsa, here a couple years back but never used much so gave it to the son in law. Back in the day,

    My first which grew to 5 over next few years.

    Some cracking bikes there Norts. Before my riding time but I remember so many of them from my childhood.

    I managed to hunt down my dad's old 1975 Commando Interstate 850. Which was the first model to come with a stock electric start. That was very uncool back then so he ripped it off on the first day and traded it for a spliff. It was shipped to Thailand in pieces and never built.

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    Not sure if I'll ever pull this off to be honest.

    There was a poster on here username Jabir who was the expert. We spoke about it a bit then he just disappeared.

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    Some pics from my Old Man's collection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malmomike77 View Post
    None of it matters if you are riding like a wanker on an unfamiliar road
    4 accidents of riders crashing by themselves in curves was just posted and you think riding like "a wanker" is a better explanation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Was big into mortorcycles in the 60s and 70s.
    You owned a Gold Star ???????

    Bastard !



    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    Please stop it. Most are drunk and it has nothing to do with all the crap you are spouting.
    Pick the threads for stalking with more accuratesse

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backspin View Post
    Swedish national died
    Anyone remember our member CrazySwede ?

    Think he died riding also.

    Nice guy
    Quote Originally Posted by dirk diggler View Post
    I managed to hunt down my dad's old 1975 Commando Interstate 850. Which was the first model to come with a stock electric start. That was very uncool back then so he ripped it off on the first day and traded it for a spliff.
    PS

    Didn't work that good.

    (understatement !)

    You dad looks cool though

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    Beautiful and will run forever

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    A Triumph is it

    And Norton; OK then

    Maybe BSA if it's really good


    But the taste goes bland, when you drive Yamaha

    and Honda and Suki and Kawa.....no no


    Greasy and muddy, my long lasting buddy

    Looks fucking shoddy

    My mates mostly do


    Has experienced curses, psychiatry nurses, emtied my purses

    My mates often do

    Guzzling liter after liter, hardly moving a meter.

    But ...

    Do as Saint Peter

    He drives MZ

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirk diggler View Post
    I've been so busy lately my bike has been a bit neglected. Although she was in the shop for a few wee touch ups, new rear tire and and had her rims repainted.

    She's 10 years old now and hasn't missed a beat.

    Got a ride up to Krabi on the 23rd, canna fkn wait.

    So the UK brand is holding up fine ? They must have hired some Japanese engineers. That thing looks like a Ducati without being a Ducati. Looks expensive too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    You can talk about countersteer bollocks all you like but if you carry too much speed into a bend nothing is going to save you.
    To be honest, I have never really thought how I have steered into bends,, most important thing fo me is to setup correctly for the bend and accelerate round it, never even knew I moved the bars, just automatic with the lean.
    It ain't fuckin bollocks clearly. Lots of these crashes happen on bikes that can turn fine if you know wtf is going on. This idea that these riders are literally carrying more speed than the bike can physically handle is bollocks.

    Do you know how fast you have to go , even in a basic car , around a gradual curve , to break the tires loose and wipe out? My friend had a Volkswagen Rabbit in school. And we went around a curve at 120 km/h. Tires were squealling and ready to roll off the rims , but it made it. He raced modifieds at the local track so he knew what he was doing. Bikes are a lot harder to ride the edge than cars.

    These riders are not exceeding the physical ability of the bike to hold the road and aren't even getting close to that threshold. They are getting off track and unable to correct it , because they don't know what they are doing. Just because you know how to ride , doesn't mean everyone else does. And anyone who crashes was just going a little faster than you
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