Indeed, a strange comment to make.
Baldik always takes the side of any coont who has been acused of partaking in Dodgy shit .
I mean if ya hangin out with some nonce ya gunna pik up that the coont is well dodgy.
Andy is just a nasty dirty fuker who was born with a gold plated cock and right there is the makings of a non conforming Royal who thinks he can shag young girls who are on tap due to his dodgy fookin mate.
Thats it innit.
I assume none of you have ever visited nana or cowboy...
Comes across as a witch hunt on some bloke that everyone thinks is a complete and utter twat.
The interview was cringeworthy and a monumental embarrassment to the royals, who have been doing so well on the PR front for the past few years.
But at the end of the day, and from the facts presented, he was just a horny 41 year old slobbering at the chops to bone some lithe young chickster half his age which is something plenty of fellas can relate to.
His witless inept presentation in the interview was a shambles, but the paedo insinuations seem a bit hyperbolic.
you are telling me he is a pedophile ? or why did her parents let her near such a decadent old man ?
what ?
why aren't the outraged giving the red headed bastard sh1t about marrying a porn star ?
Epstein was a 'fixer of young girls' . He was convicted for sex trafficking minors. He was a pedophile and there are numerous reports of 12/13 year old kids trafficked for sex. Prince Andrew had intimate ties with Epstein and frequented his home for private parties. The writing is on the wall.
so you say
ok - reports
I would wager that the majority of the crowd baying for blood had never heard of Epstein before this year and whose only knowledge comes from the click bait news they consume
I really don't care as it is not something I am able to influence , but I find it amusing
^ok, cool.
We have different opinions.
The issue strikes a chord with me.
Makes me sick to the stomach.
I believe where there is smoke, there is fire.
I haven't read any reports about 12/13 year olds, please give us a link because that would be wrong but if boning a 17 year old is wrong colour me guilty, (although it was a LONG time ago).
Is it the disparity in ages that so offends people?
“If we stop testing right now we’d have very few cases, if any.” Donald J Trump.
Pedophilia is the attraction to prepubescent children.
Haven't followed the case, but think he's accused of boning a 17 yr old, and getting a foot massage from a young Russian woman?
Epstein had a whole island and "sex-holiday" mansion set-up. All with hidden cameras, and surveillance equipment installed. The place was designed to entrap politicians and famous people with evidence of them having sex with children for blackmail. Ghislaine Maxwell supplied the underage kids to him for the entrapment and his famous pedo 'parties' that he used to throw. Maxwell's father Robert was a Mossad agent before his death, so it's a fair bet to say that his darling daughter is too..
Jimmy Savile did the exact same thing in the UK, supplying kids for sex to the upper crust as well as being a prolific pedo himself. The Royal Family protection he was given made him untouchable while he was alive. Prince Andrew is the common thread between Savile and Epstein.
As you say 17 is legal in the UK, not sure of the legal status and it may be 18 or more at that time and place. But it's not the age that matters, so much as his absolute denial of any form of contact or even meeting with her, which suggests a good memory by one that meets no end of people, toppled by a convenient inability to remember (an increasingly common defence) having that pic taken with her and Maxwell in the background. If it is not a fake, his defiance reeks of one that is far out of touch with the world he is trying to persuade. Though it risks defrosting the tip of the proverbial iceberg, I would give him some respect if he shrugged and said yes I did have sex with her and it was great, so what! Or even yes I had sex with her and loads of other gorgeous women at Epstein's homes, but none were underage and it was fcuking great you really want to try it sometime!
In his favour, esp after the Clinton/Lewinsky saga, 17 is old enough for Giuffre to know it makes sense to preserve a slimy souvenir of the alleged event. Did she? We'll know if she ends up as the next suicide, a la Epstein offing himself soon after claiming to be in possession of nuclear incrimination. And what's with Maxwell, is she off the suicide list wherever she is?
One question the interviewer did not ask, and definitely should have, is if he knew or suspected, or with hindsight as an intelligent person should have suspected, what was going on at Epstein's homes and island, while he was there as a guest that knows his host is a pedo convicted, and on reduced charges. I for one would like to know what he was doing as a serial guest, and would guess it was more sinister than playing donkeykong.
I think Maitlis took it easy on him, could've done better. 5/10
Hearsay may be inadmissible, even if it contains some truth. While sex is and always has been a prime motivator for all sorts of shenanigans through all levels of society, it's no secret that world definers often tend to view themselves as supremely privileged (in many respects they are), and get their kicks by boldly stepping beyond acceptable conduct, confident that they are beyond the law and able to fix anything.
It's logical that investigators would visit neighbouring islands to see what they can find, and from one report I heard it seems the people on those islands generally knew what was going on at Epstein's, but were intimidated into voluntary silence by the status of its visitors.
Ftr I do not give this any credence at all, not on hearsay but because it was on the internet and did not go viral, even though it struck me at the time that the source was one of the 'respected' American media. Maybe someone can follow up?
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Just a thought, if there were harems of underage kids on the island and or at his homes, who selected and trained them (if not Maxwell), and more important where are they now? Afaik the FBI have not yet sent in sniffer teams with shovels.
and not to mention that people who are as rich as they are have hordes of people hired for menial jobs around their residences - where are all their testimonies ?
I think people are being played and wish to believe to justify their way of thinking
I am not saying that it didn't happen or does not continue to happen , but rational skepticism has long been left behind
I assume the "evidence" is in he hands of the FBI, MI5, MPS, FSB, VAJA, MOSSAD, ...., all of which may have "advised" the recently killed facilitator as to what to keep and which "cameras were to be deemed not working" during HRH's visits to the islands and UK residences.
Epstein reached "those heights" by supplying incriminating evidence to his defenders.
A tray full of GOLD is not worth a moment in time.
Who pray tell, manages the search engines/ratings/returned list position, of the "truly open and honest" western internet?
It appears there are "facilities which can be purchased" enabling some to appear on the first hits page and conversely, to not display results of some who are deemed, by some wise oracle, as being let's say "unreliable in their views".
As we see here on TD if ones source is from a dubious, by some regard, agent of propaganda, they can be ridiculed.
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