Thread: British pub landlord faces jail for writing 'death to Allah' on Qatar Airways seat

You think to mut, mongrel.

Get some work done, lazy sod!

Originally Posted by stroller

Get some work done, lazy sod!

Jawhol, mein Fuhrer!

Oh wait, I'm not at work.

When you're not changing Depend^® incontinence diapers is your other job worrying about what I'm doing? Hope it pays well.

ant, sorry to interrupt you having fun with your silly flame wars with various posters, but back to the discussion.

replacing your name with "a bloke":

so, ant let's say [a bloke] is on a plane next to some Christian trump supporters and after listening to them praise trump for appointing conservatives to the Supreme Court to support Christian causes

as the plane lands, [a bloke] drops a note on the ground for them: Fuck Jesus, fuck you Christian trump supporters and the rest of you kkk cunts".

the plane lands and [a bloke] is arrested and thinks to himself: fair enough, I deserve to be in handcuffs for what I wrote.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Aggravated harassment and aggravated criminal damage very fucking clearly are a crime.

do you think the guy dropping the "fuck jesus" note should be charged with a crime?

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Aggravated harassment and aggravated criminal damage very fucking clearly are a crime.

do you think the guy dropping the "fuck jesus" note should be charged with a crime?

I literally couldn't make it any clearer... well, maybe I could increase the font size some more? Would that help?

Because I'm kinda at a loss how you've managed to quote the answer to your question right above the question.

ok, so you think writing a nasty note on paper can be considered aggravated harassment.

so, how about on facebook, twitter and teakdoor?

Aggravated harassment in the second degree, a Class A misdemeanor, occurs when a person intentionally acts to harass, threaten, annoy or alarm another person, using a telephone, telegraph, the mail or any form of written communication, including electronic means.

Why are you quoting a New York state statute and asking me about Facebook, Twitter and Teak Door.

None of those things have anything to do with this thread.

i didn't say where this takes place and you agreed that it's aggravated harassment:

replacing your name with "a bloke":

so, ant let's say [a bloke] is on a plane next to some Christian trump supporters and after listening to them praise trump for appointing conservatives to the Supreme Court to support Christian causes

as the plane lands, [a bloke] drops a note on the ground for them: Fuck Jesus, fuck you Christian trump supporters and the rest of you kkk cunts".

the plane lands and [a bloke] is arrested and thinks to himself: fair enough, I deserve to be in handcuffs for what I wrote.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Why are you quoting a New York state statute and asking me about Facebook, Twitter and Teak Door.

None of those things have anything to do with this thread.

i just googled it and that came up at the top of the page.

anyways, you're saying that the law in the uk for writing a note might be different than in thailand for writing a post on t.d.?

not sure about that as thais sue each other like crazy for defamation.

anyways, leaving aside the difference in laws in various countries, what's your opinion:

since you agree that writing a nasty note should be aggravated assault, do you agree that it should be a crime on facebook, twitter and teakdoor, too?

Here you go, the OP again for your edification since you seem to be getting terribly confused and babbling on about complete and utter irrelevancies:

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

What a gormless twat.



A London pub landlord is facing jail after he wrote "death to Allah" on the armrest of his Qatar Airways business class seat because he was angry with the service.


Joseph Breslin, 36, also scrawled an Islamophobic message on a napkin, attacking Muslims wearing headscarves, and dropped it between two passengers as the plane landed in Heathrow.


Breslin, from Bromley, south London, pleaded guilty to two charges of religiously aggravated harassment and one count of religiously aggravated criminal damage at Isleworth Crown Court, the Evening Standard reported on Wednesday (4 October).


Judge Annabel Darlow QC freed him on bail until sentencing on 31 October, when she said he would likely face prison.


The court heard how Breslin had been complaining throughout the 8 July flight and became "tired and irritated" at the service. He believed a fellow passenger was deliberately spraying perfume to annoy him.


"As the plane was coming to land, one of the crew noticed him scribbling on the armrest of the seat," said prosecutor Bill McGivern.


"He then left his seat and went between two other passengers, leaving a note which was very derogatory towards people who wear headscarves and it said 'death to Allah.'"


McGivern said the note, which was written in English, was translated to the passengers who were then left "terrified".


Complaints were made to airline staff and Breslin was arrested as he disembarked at Heathrow.


Jeremy Wainwright, mitigating, said the incident was out of character for his client, who runs a pub in south London.


"He had become irritated by his fellow passengers, he felt in particular they appeared to have an attitude towards him," Wainwright said.


"The last in question had been spraying perfume around, and he had perceived it was aimed at insulting him.


"The words on the armrest related to the plane service generally, and the fact he had become tired and irritated and that was directed at the airline."


Judge Annabel Darlow QC condemned Breslin's behaviour as "extraordinarily offensive and unpleasant".


British pub landlord faces jail for writing 'death to Allah' on Qatar Airways seat

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

ok, so you think writing a nasty note on paper can be considered aggravated harassment.

It doesn't really matter what he thinks, does it? He's not the one charging the racist drunken pub landlord with a crime.

The law thinks it is, and that's all that matters.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ted-harassment

I would imagine doing it online is probably a crime these days too, but I can't be arsed to look.

ok, ant, every thread should just discuss the op and not evolve.



anyways, ok, i understand,

lateral thinking isn't your strong point.

fair enough.

though, rather than putting up roadblocks (like you usually do): "OMG, that's a straw-man, i'm not going to discuss that" and then flame.

why not just go with the flow of the discussion and answer questions posed to you and then pose some of your own?

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

lateral thinking isn't your strong point.

Yeah that's it.

Not you asking a series of increasingly irrelevant and pointless questions.

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

why not just go with the flow of the discussion and answer questions posed to you

Because you're asking questions that have either already been answered - you literally quoted the answer to one question before you asked it - or that are completely pointless and irrelevant. That's why.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

It doesn't really matter what he thinks, does it?

sure, it does. he can have an opinion on whether it should be illegal.

that's why i asked him this question, too (which he dodged):

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

since you agree that writing a nasty note should be aggravated assault, do you agree that it should be a crime on facebook, twitter and teakdoor, too?

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

you literally quoted the answer to one question before you asked it

how could i know if you thought the "fuck jesus" note should be considered aggravated assault, too?

Because you literally quoted the answer to the question before you asked it​.

since you agree that writing a nasty note should be aggravated assault, do you agree that it should be a crime on facebook, twitter and teakdoor, too?

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

anyways, leaving aside the difference in laws in various countries, what's your opinion:

since you agree that writing a nasty note should be aggravated assault, do you agree that it should be a crime on facebook, twitter and teakdoor, too?

Leaving aside the law...




You want an answer to a hyothetical question in an unknown country with unknown laws about a note containing unknown, but "nasty", text.

Why?

Because you still don't know exactly what the note from the OP said, so you can hardly compare like with like.

Originally Posted by Neverna

Leaving aside the law...



.

what's so funny, nervana?

do you imagine the note that was written about "headscraves and muslims" was worse than this?

so, ant let's say [a bloke] is on a plane next to some Christian trump supporters and after listening to them praise trump for appointing conservatives to the Supreme Court to support Christian causes

as the plane lands, [a bloke] drops a note on the ground for them: Fuck Jesus, fuck you Christian trump supporters and the rest of you kkk cunts".

the plane lands and [a bloke] is arrested and thinks to himself: fair enough, I deserve to be in handcuffs for what I wrote.

nervana, you really think the anti-headscarves message was worse than this?

Fuck Jesus, fuck you Christian trump supporters and the rest of you kkk cunts".

if not, what are you talking about, pray tell?

anyways, nervana, since ant won't answer, maybe you will:

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

since you agree that writing a nasty note should be aggravated assault, do you agree that it should be a crime on facebook, twitter and teakdoor, too?

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

what's so funny, nervana?

That you want to put aside the issue of the law but expect an answer about the law.

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

do you imagine the note that was written about "headscraves and muslims" was worse than this?

I have no idea. Get me a copy of the note and I'll give you an honest opinion.

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

nervana, you really think the anti-headscarves message was worse than this?

Fuck Jesus, fuck you Christian trump supporters and the rest of you kkk cunts".

As above.

Originally Posted by Neverna

That you want to put aside the issue of the law. It is what this thread is all about. .

ok, you and ant wish to just talk about what happened in the op.

fair enough.

i wish to discuss whether what he did should be illegal (in any country) and whether it should apply to t.d. (like it says it some laws):

nervana, i understand, you only want to discuss whether what the guy did was illegal in the uk (same as ant):

though:

since you agree that writing a nasty note should be aggravated assault, do you agree that it should be a crime on facebook, twitter and teakdoor, too?

---------------


Aggravated harassment in the second degree, a Class A misdemeanor, occurs when a person intentionally acts to harass, threaten, annoy or alarm another person, using a telephone, telegraph, the mail or any form of written communication, including electronic means.

What you really want to know is if there should be such a thing in law (anywhere in the world) as "aggravated assault". It appears you don't. Start a thread in Speakers Corner and put your question to a wider audience. Include a poll for even more feedback.

Originally Posted by Neverna

What you really want to know is if there should be such a thing in law (anywhere in the world) as "aggravated assault". It appears you don't. Start a thread in Speakers Corner and put your question to a wider audience. Include a poll for even more feedback.

no this thread is for this:

only you and ant are strongly saying that "fuck jesus/allah", etc. should put people in jail.

though, both of you are afraid to say whether that should extend to the internet, like td:

Aggravated harassment in the second degree, a Class A misdemeanor, occurs when a person intentionally acts to harass, threaten, annoy or alarm another person, using a telephone, telegraph, the mail or any form of written communication, including electronic means.

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

no this thread is for this:

You mean you are hijacking this thread for your own topic.

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

only you and ant are strongly saying that "fuck jesus/allah", etc. should put people in jail.

I haven't said anything of the kind. Stop lying.

Originally Posted by Farangrakthai

though, both of you are afraid to say whether that should extend to the internet, like td:

Another lie. Why do you lie so much, FRT?