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29-01-2017, 12:33 PM
hick

Well if you don't give a shit - then you wouldn't really do anything....
29-01-2017, 12:49 PM
Sumbitch

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Originally Posted by taxexile

there are many experienced and ethical dental surgeons in thailand, and there are just as many cowboys.

And while Thailand may be a mecca for medical tourists I've never been impressed with the prices for dental services.

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Originally Posted by Hugh Cow

There is no substitute for real teeth.

I'd agree if you're comparing them to falsies. But I live and die by my gold implants.

And found this online re: ceramic implants:

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Originally the first dental implants (1980’s) had two parts: the fixture (which goes screwed into the bone) and the abutment (where the prosthetic crown is cemented).

The improvements in new ceramic materials made it possible on 2000 to have the abutment part made of ceramic. This material was commonly known to be more tissue friendly than titanium.

In 2005, the CeraRoot full ceramic implant (fixture and abutment in one body/part) was introduced into the European market and in 2011 accepted by the FDA to be used in U.S. dental clinics. The main advantage of a one-piece zirconia implant is that it has no prosthetic connections, where bacteria can grow, and therefore have better gum health. Another big advantage is that the implant is 100% white. This means that no metal will ever be visible when smiling or communicating with other people.

Zirconia vs. Titanium ? CeraRoot Zirconia Dental Implant
29-01-2017, 05:42 PM
Simon43

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But in the UK at last orders, you can buy two pints and drop your dentures in the second. This ensures that none of your mates drinks your second pint.

Never stopped me...
30-01-2017, 06:33 AM
UrbanMan

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Originally Posted by Hugh Cow

if you don't like what you have why not just get your originals fixed and porcelain veneers put on them. There is no substitute for real teeth. I remember my father had his teeth out and a set of dentures. He always regretted it.

Agree. Keep your originals as long as possible. I've known a few who've had implants done, as has been described here, its a long road back to normal - couple months minimum.

Veneers, the whole thing - procedures + recovery - is about 3 days is what I've heard, pain completely gone in a week. Conservatively, they last 10 years.

Thanks for this thread, I'm motivated to go floss now.
30-01-2017, 09:28 AM
hallelujah

I got a few veneers a while ago.

It takes you a while to stop biting your nails and cracking them, but any damage can be fixed with composite for just over a thousand baht or so.
30-01-2017, 12:03 PM
OhOh

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Originally Posted by ChalkyDee

The dentist said, however, that if I took the front 4 out, my face would change,

Maybe for the better? :)
30-01-2017, 01:41 PM
ChalkyDee

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Originally Posted by hick

Sorry I don't have any advice, but I am curious as I (too) am tired of f**king around w/ thieving dentists.

My mother did a package deal in Costa Rica when she turned 60. Paid around 30,000 usd to have em all pulled and replaced with implants. Total VIP treatment = limo at the airport, prescribed drugs, 5 star hotel, 24 hr. line, the lot. That was nearly a decade ago.

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Originally Posted by ChalkyDee

I'm seriously thinking of getting most of my upper teeth taken out

Lower ones not giving you any problems?

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Originally Posted by ChalkyDee

my face would change, I.e I'd look a lot older.
The alternative is to get some implants.

Did the dentist say your face would change with the false teeth but not the implants?

interesting,, thanks!

No, the lower ones are not so bad and kinda out of view but do need some work/implants/falsers.
30-01-2017, 01:43 PM
ChalkyDee

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Originally Posted by taxexile

before committing yourself, make sure your maxilla is suitable for implants, a ct scan will determine if the bone in the molar and premolar region is thick enough to receive the implants, a sinus lift or bone augmemtation may be necessary.

if your two upper canines are in good shape and there is no periodontal pathology then consider fixed bridgework using the canines as abutments to replace the 4 incisors that you say are in poor shape rather than implants. it is simpler and will solve the appearance problem. upper canines are firmly rooted teeth and eminently suitable for bridge abutments due to their excellent load bearing capabilities.

many dentists are quick to offer implants, so make sure the one you choose has plenty of experience of this very technique sensitive treatment and has full knowledge of the pros and cons of the many different systems and different materials used based on your particular case and on the reported clinical evidence
regarding success rates etc. and uses that evidence when answering your questions.

before seeking opinions and quotes, research it all thoroughly and know your stuff. cheap is not always best, and there are many reports of systems failing after a few years due to bone resorption and infection around the implants.

there are many experienced and ethical dental surgeons in thailand, and there are just as many cowboys.

good luck.

A bit technical for me but as you suggest(wisely) I'd better do some research. Never heard of a 'maxilla'!
Good advice, thanks!
30-01-2017, 01:44 PM
ChalkyDee

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Originally Posted by DJ Pat

What about the in between time when you have to allow the bone/gums to regrow around the holes before having them permanently put in?

I saw a programme on tv and those few months didn't look much fun at all.

I recently had two compacted wisdoms out each side and even for such a small job those few weeks post extraction were fucking horrible

Wear a mask I guess.
30-01-2017, 01:47 PM
Iceman123

^
With your teeth as described you should be wearing one already!
:)
30-01-2017, 01:47 PM
ChalkyDee

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Originally Posted by OhOh

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Originally Posted by ChalkyDee

The dentist said, however, that if I took the front 4 out, my face would change,

Maybe for the better? :)

What makes you say that?
30-01-2017, 01:51 PM
Little Chuchok

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Originally Posted by ChalkyDee

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Originally Posted by taxexile

before committing yourself, make sure your maxilla is suitable for implants, a ct scan will determine if the bone in the molar and premolar region is thick enough to receive the implants, a sinus lift or bone augmemtation may be necessary.

if your two upper canines are in good shape and there is no periodontal pathology then consider fixed bridgework using the canines as abutments to replace the 4 incisors that you say are in poor shape rather than implants. it is simpler and will solve the appearance problem. upper canines are firmly rooted teeth and eminently suitable for bridge abutments due to their excellent load bearing capabilities.

many dentists are quick to offer implants, so make sure the one you choose has plenty of experience of this very technique sensitive treatment and has full knowledge of the pros and cons of the many different systems and different materials used based on your particular case and on the reported clinical evidence
regarding success rates etc. and uses that evidence when answering your questions.

before seeking opinions and quotes, research it all thoroughly and know your stuff. cheap is not always best, and there are many reports of systems failing after a few years due to bone resorption and infection around the implants.

there are many experienced and ethical dental surgeons in thailand, and there are just as many cowboys.

good luck.

A bit technical for me but as you suggest(wisely) I'd better do some research. Never heard of a 'maxilla'!
Good advice, thanks!

Tax was a Dentist, so he knows his shite... :)
30-01-2017, 02:00 PM
taxexile

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Originally Posted by ChalkyDee

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Originally Posted by OhOh

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Originally Posted by ChalkyDee

The dentist said, however, that if I took the front 4 out, my face would change,

Maybe for the better? :)

What makes you say that?

your appearance will only change if you do not replace the teeth after they have been removed. the soft tissues of the lips and cheeks lose their support and fall into the space previously occupied by the teeth.
30-01-2017, 03:42 PM
OhOh

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Originally Posted by taxexile

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Originally Posted by ChalkyDee

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Originally Posted by OhOh

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Originally Posted by ChalkyDee

The dentist said, however, that if I took the front 4 out, my face would change,

Maybe for the better? :)

What makes you say that?

your appearance will only change if you do not replace the teeth after they have been removed. the soft tissues of the lips and cheeks lose their support and fall into the space previously occupied by the teeth.

Which doesn't 100% mean his looks will be worse. He may be extremely buck toothed.

https://teakdoor.com/images/imported/2017/01/1572.jpg
30-01-2017, 09:31 PM
ChalkyDee

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Originally Posted by taxexile

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Originally Posted by ChalkyDee

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Originally Posted by OhOh

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Originally Posted by ChalkyDee

The dentist said, however, that if I took the front 4 out, my face would change,

Maybe for the better? :)

What makes you say that?

your appearance will only change if you do not replace the teeth after they have been removed. the soft tissues of the lips and cheeks lose their support and fall into the space previously occupied by the teeth.

So dentures would make the cheeks fall into the space? Therefore you recommend implants/bridge.

I've learnt a lot on this thread, and will not get my front two teeth out but get them crowned and then a bridge or implants. I'll shop around a few different dentists.
I've heard good things about Khon Kaen uni. When I had little money I used to go to the dental college but that was really a hit or a miss. Got good treatment at KK Kospital but only as I had a connection there and feeling "greng jai" about using that favour again. Plus I can afford private now.
30-01-2017, 09:47 PM
Storekeeper

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Originally Posted by ChalkyDee

The dentist said, however, that if I took the front 4 out, my face would change, I.e I'd look a lot older.

Never heard that before. Would have thought once you plopped the falsies back in the ole pie hole you'd still look like the same old ugly geezer as before.
30-01-2017, 10:03 PM
David48atTD

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Originally Posted by ChalkyDee

I've learnt a lot on this thread, and will not get my front two teeth out but get them crowned and then a bridge or implants. .

With the crowns, be a bit savy about the price of the crown that you end up using and the quote you are given.

I've got 3 crowns, 2 at the front and one molar.

The molar was about BHT 7,000 a few years ago.

The front crowns were about BHT 12,000 each, more recently and a different quality.

Different material.

Also think about the colour of the crown before you order them. Shades of 'off-white' vary.

Good luck with it and let us know what you decided on and what it cost ... thanks.
30-01-2017, 10:35 PM
ChalkyDee

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Originally Posted by David48atTD

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Originally Posted by ChalkyDee

I've learnt a lot on this thread, and will not get my front two teeth out but get them crowned and then a bridge or implants. .

With the crowns, be a bit savy about the price of the crown that you end up using and the quote you are given.

I've got 3 crowns, 2 at the front and one molar.

The molar was about BHT 7,000 a few years ago.

The front crowns were about BHT 12,000 each, more recently and a different quality.

Different material.

Also think about the colour of the crown before you order them. Shades of 'off-white' vary.

Good luck with it and let us know what you decided on and what it cost ... thanks.

For sure, I'll have to get nice white crowns to match the implants.
01-08-2019, 12:37 PM
Hugh Cow

I heard the philpines was good for dentistry and well priced. Has anyone experienced it there?
01-08-2019, 12:58 PM
Pragmatic

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Originally Posted by Hugh Cow

I heard the philpines was good for dentistry and well priced.

Why would someone pay extra for flights etc when they'd get just as gooda service here?
01-08-2019, 01:42 PM
reinvented

mate of mine used to use dentists in goa, cheaper to fly from Uk, have a holiday and get it done, than just get it done in uk
01-08-2019, 04:07 PM
TizMe

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Originally Posted by Hugh Cow

I heard the philpines was good for dentistry and well priced. Has anyone experienced it there?

I had a couple of crowns done about 2 years ago. PHP 20K each. (about THB12K)
02-08-2019, 03:45 AM
Agent_Smith

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Originally Posted by reinvented

mate of mine used to use dentists in goa, cheaper to fly from Uk, have a holiday and get it done, than just get it done in uk

Dental is not covered by NHS in the UK?
02-08-2019, 03:51 AM
David48atTD

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Originally Posted by TizMe

I had a couple of crowns done about 2 years ago. PHP 20K each. (about THB12K)

That's about what I paid for my front ones.

https://teakdoor.com/the-teakdoor-lou...ml#post3453284
02-08-2019, 07:48 AM
reinvented

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Originally Posted by Agent_Smith

Dental is not covered by NHS in the UK?

no idea mate, not lived there for 20+ years
but i guess not

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