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    The attraction is not looks, it's her ability to look after the garden, mow the lawn and plant pretty flowers that She bought at a massive discount at a Thai Florist married to Farang in English High St, right next door to a Mc Donald's outlet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stroller
    Intelligent women usually look for intelligent, entertaining men,
    who have depth in their pockets. or bank account.

    so we can all do a deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stinky View Post
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    Thai ladies are beautiful but they have no depth. pretty shallow really.
    But how much depth does a bargirl really need?
    The stinkster!

    Blast from the past, or what!

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    Hey Somtamslappydude how's you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly94
    Most ... think Indian food is disgusting but have never tried it
    That proves it, I'm with Dragonfly94 on this one.

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    Here are some things to consider:

    1) Educated Thai women, even those from top universities, tend to be rather ignorant and non worldly. There's a distinct lack of curiosity or practical consideration for anything that goes beyond the Thai cultural bubble for the vast majority of Thais. You will find very few autodidactics or critical thinkers in this society. Books or in depth topical discussion is considered boring. In comparison to even your average American (who still does read) Thais don't read anything at all except comics and pop culture rags. You are expected to fully conform to their language and cultural standards which is a definite step down if you consider yourself a thinking individual. I'm not as extreme as Ladislav in his negative views of Thais but there is some truth in what he says about the ethnocentrism and relative ignorance of Thais.

    2) Older Thai women (35+) have some truly annoying superficial characteristics out of any asian nationalities i've been around. They adopt the "hi-so" socialite type attitudes and expect to be taken care of by their husbands. Face is everything in Thai culture and women who marry foreign men expect a certain carefree lifestyle to justify the relationship to other Thais. Older Thai women actually become more high maintenance when they know you have sunk a certain amount of time and investment in the relationship. I see many older white western/Thai relationships with children that look absolutely miserable.

    3) Thai women make poor mothers. The Thai mentality can be best described as mercurial and focused on self centered living. Thai parents who are middle class and above tend to be absentee parents. It's common for maids, housekeepers, etc.. to babysit their children well into their teens. Thai society cultivates ignorance and lack of discipline. They are generally hands free and don't put much thought in investing in their children. You find a lot of Thai children who lack mental development and stunted social growth because of this type of upbringing. If you read about world development statistics Thai consistently ranks low in I.Q. and educational standards at the secondary (PISA) and university level. The faults you see with Filipinos are inherent with Thais as well but i'd say Thais are marginally better off in some respects. The top university in Thailand (Chulalongkorn) ranks low in international rankings, at least equivalent to a mid-tier U.S. state public school. There are exceptions to this and they are mostly with the Chinese-Thai upper middle class whose maintained values are more similar to NE Asians.

    4) Thai women adapt poorly in other countries. Thais tend to be very particular about their culture and even food. If you notice, Thais tend to congregate in tight knit communities when abroad who rarely venture outside this comfort zone. The lack of proactive adaptive behavior and ambition means you need to constantly be the anchor for them outside of their comfort zone. This is true if you take them out o the country into a separate Asian culture. Thais born abroad are different however but they are not considered native Thai for all intents and purposes.

    5) P4P is heavily embedded in the culture, another poster said that Thailand has polygamist roots and this is true. That's why I think Thais transitioned so easily into an international p4p destination. Sex and relationships which hinge on material commodity are the norm. Wealthy Thai men accumulate mistresses and monger endlessly. Really top notch "attractive women" tend to adopt very westernized and materialistic attitudes in response. They know their value baht wise and many think nothing of sleeping around to obtain material comfort. Sexual libertine behavior is alright for fun and games but not good if you want a well adjusted stable woman to marry.


    A few thoughts about Thai women and marriage. : Asia, China, Philippines, Thailand ? Happier Abroad Forum Community
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    ^ Great thread to that link you provided. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KEVIN2008 View Post
    Here are some things to consider:

    1) Educated Thai women, even those from top universities, tend to be rather ignorant and non worldly. There's a distinct lack of curiosity or practical consideration for anything that goes beyond the Thai cultural bubble for the vast majority of Thais. You will find very few autodidactics or critical thinkers in this society. Books or in depth topical discussion is considered boring. In comparison to even your average American (who still does read) Thais don't read anything at all except comics and pop culture rags. You are expected to fully conform to their language and cultural standards which is a definite step down if you consider yourself a thinking individual. I'm not as extreme as Ladislav in his negative views of Thais but there is some truth in what he says about the ethnocentrism and relative ignorance of Thais.

    2) Older Thai women (35+) have some truly annoying superficial characteristics out of any asian nationalities i've been around. They adopt the "hi-so" socialite type attitudes and expect to be taken care of by their husbands. Face is everything in Thai culture and women who marry foreign men expect a certain carefree lifestyle to justify the relationship to other Thais. Older Thai women actually become more high maintenance when they know you have sunk a certain amount of time and investment in the relationship. I see many older white western/Thai relationships with children that look absolutely miserable.

    3) Thai women make poor mothers. The Thai mentality can be best described as mercurial and focused on self centered living. Thai parents who are middle class and above tend to be absentee parents. It's common for maids, housekeepers, etc.. to babysit their children well into their teens. Thai society cultivates ignorance and lack of discipline. They are generally hands free and don't put much thought in investing in their children. You find a lot of Thai children who lack mental development and stunted social growth because of this type of upbringing. If you read about world development statistics Thai consistently ranks low in I.Q. and educational standards at the secondary (PISA) and university level. The faults you see with Filipinos are inherent with Thais as well but i'd say Thais are marginally better off in some respects. The top university in Thailand (Chulalongkorn) ranks low in international rankings, at least equivalent to a mid-tier U.S. state public school. There are exceptions to this and they are mostly with the Chinese-Thai upper middle class whose maintained values are more similar to NE Asians.

    4) Thai women adapt poorly in other countries. Thais tend to be very particular about their culture and even food. If you notice, Thais tend to congregate in tight knit communities when abroad who rarely venture outside this comfort zone. The lack of proactive adaptive behavior and ambition means you need to constantly be the anchor for them outside of their comfort zone. This is true if you take them out o the country into a separate Asian culture. Thais born abroad are different however but they are not considered native Thai for all intents and purposes.

    5) P4P is heavily embedded in the culture, another poster said that Thailand has polygamist roots and this is true. That's why I think Thais transitioned so easily into an international p4p destination. Sex and relationships which hinge on material commodity are the norm. Wealthy Thai men accumulate mistresses and monger endlessly. Really top notch "attractive women" tend to adopt very westernized and materialistic attitudes in response. They know their value baht wise and many think nothing of sleeping around to obtain material comfort. Sexual libertine behavior is alright for fun and games but not good if you want a well adjusted stable woman to marry.


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    I read it, considered it, and dismissed it as total B.S. spouted by someone who I would imagine to be very boring and lonely.

    The quality of women that this tool must have associated with to give him that impression of Thai women as a whole must have been quite low. I guess a lower middle class foreigner, probably past retirement age that frequented too many beer bars and fell for the wrong women.

    The dribble that he posted could be said of any low class scum from any country, it's just that he chose to associate with low class scummy Thais.
    I'm not saying it was Aliens, but it was Aliens!

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    ^ I see where you're coming from, but it's not complete B.S.....it is true to a CERTAIN extent. I think the writer has indulged a little too much in stereotyping and hyperbole.

    My own opinion of Thai women rests somewhere in between the two extremes. There is a certain amount of truth in what Kevin posted, but the writer neglected to say "there is a TENDENCY for Thai women to be like....etc". Obviously they are not ALL as described.

    Interestingly, I know someone here in Australia whose wife conforms to the stereotype described below, and it's making his life very stressful at the moment :

    Quote Originally Posted by KEVIN2008 View Post
    2) Older Thai women (35+) have some truly annoying superficial characteristics out of any asian nationalities i've been around. They adopt the "hi-so" socialite type attitudes and expect to be taken care of by their husbands. Face is everything in Thai culture and women who marry foreign men expect a certain carefree lifestyle to justify the relationship to other Thais. Older Thai women actually become more high maintenance when they know you have sunk a certain amount of time and investment in the relationship.
    Last edited by Latindancer; 19-04-2015 at 06:16 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beazalbob69 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by KEVIN2008 View Post
    Here are some things to consider:

    1) Educated Thai women, even those from top universities, tend to be rather ignorant and non worldly. There's a distinct lack of curiosity or practical consideration for anything that goes beyond the Thai cultural bubble for the vast majority of Thais. You will find very few autodidactics or critical thinkers in this society. Books or in depth topical discussion is considered boring. In comparison to even your average American (who still does read) Thais don't read anything at all except comics and pop culture rags. You are expected to fully conform to their language and cultural standards which is a definite step down if you consider yourself a thinking individual. I'm not as extreme as Ladislav in his negative views of Thais but there is some truth in what he says about the ethnocentrism and relative ignorance of Thais.

    2) Older Thai women (35+) have some truly annoying superficial characteristics out of any asian nationalities i've been around. They adopt the "hi-so" socialite type attitudes and expect to be taken care of by their husbands. Face is everything in Thai culture and women who marry foreign men expect a certain carefree lifestyle to justify the relationship to other Thais. Older Thai women actually become more high maintenance when they know you have sunk a certain amount of time and investment in the relationship. I see many older white western/Thai relationships with children that look absolutely miserable.

    3) Thai women make poor mothers. The Thai mentality can be best described as mercurial and focused on self centered living. Thai parents who are middle class and above tend to be absentee parents. It's common for maids, housekeepers, etc.. to babysit their children well into their teens. Thai society cultivates ignorance and lack of discipline. They are generally hands free and don't put much thought in investing in their children. You find a lot of Thai children who lack mental development and stunted social growth because of this type of upbringing. If you read about world development statistics Thai consistently ranks low in I.Q. and educational standards at the secondary (PISA) and university level. The faults you see with Filipinos are inherent with Thais as well but i'd say Thais are marginally better off in some respects. The top university in Thailand (Chulalongkorn) ranks low in international rankings, at least equivalent to a mid-tier U.S. state public school. There are exceptions to this and they are mostly with the Chinese-Thai upper middle class whose maintained values are more similar to NE Asians.

    4) Thai women adapt poorly in other countries. Thais tend to be very particular about their culture and even food. If you notice, Thais tend to congregate in tight knit communities when abroad who rarely venture outside this comfort zone. The lack of proactive adaptive behavior and ambition means you need to constantly be the anchor for them outside of their comfort zone. This is true if you take them out o the country into a separate Asian culture. Thais born abroad are different however but they are not considered native Thai for all intents and purposes.

    5) P4P is heavily embedded in the culture, another poster said that Thailand has polygamist roots and this is true. That's why I think Thais transitioned so easily into an international p4p destination. Sex and relationships which hinge on material commodity are the norm. Wealthy Thai men accumulate mistresses and monger endlessly. Really top notch "attractive women" tend to adopt very westernized and materialistic attitudes in response. They know their value baht wise and many think nothing of sleeping around to obtain material comfort. Sexual libertine behavior is alright for fun and games but not good if you want a well adjusted stable woman to marry.


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    I read it, considered it, and dismissed it as total B.S. spouted by someone who I would imagine to be very boring and lonely.

    The quality of women that this tool must have associated with to give him that impression of Thai women as a whole must have been quite low. I guess a lower middle class foreigner, probably past retirement age that frequented too many beer bars and fell for the wrong women.

    The dribble that he posted could be said of any low class scum from any country, it's just that he chose to associate with low class scummy Thais.
    Mostly bollocks and create from the ever-sustaining cultural stereotypes and stigmas.

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    That's a very good summing up that Kevin posted. While you can nit pick it a bit I don't see how anyone who has lived here a few years or married to a Thai could seriously disagree with most of it. Sure they are cute and have some engaging habits, but endlessly taking photos of themselves and even their food, worrying about getting brown and spending so much time on their phones does get tiresome. Anyone had an in depth, calm and logical discussion with a Thai women recently that did not involve money, food or their family?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly94 View Post

    Anyone had an in depth, calm and logical discussion with a Thai women recently that did not involve money, food or their family?
    A big problem here is the Language difference, it's impossible to get deep into a subject with a partner when they are not fluent in English.

    In the same vain, when the Farang Male is not fluent in Thai how can one really get into a subject ?

    Just the way it is Huh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly94 View Post


    Says a bloke heading for 60 who never found one worth marrying (it seems) yet who does not think all Thai women are dumb, show me one that's not

    Well,

    I think you are rather a stupid sort of bastard considering what you are posting on this thread .

    But hey, its a forum so you go right ahead.

    Further more, you are jealous that I chose to remain single ???

    Jesus mate, Being married ain't considered a hard thing to do, any tosser can do it.

    Take a tool like you, Married then divorced flounce over to Thailand marry a local then discredit the lot.

    Na, I'll remain single just living with my bint's while you wallow in your sadness.

    Not hard to see why you have never found a suitable partner is it huh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry57
    A big problem here is the Language difference, it's impossible to get deep into a subject with a partner when they are not fluent in English.
    That's very true, mate...It takes a lot of work, but the challenge is there for both to learn if you're on the same page...

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    Well,

    My handbag and myself get along very well and are definitely on the same page.

    In-fact, I remain single unless with a partner who I like, have no probs at all being single.

    My handbag always has her head in a Thai English dictionary trying to improve her grasp of English, it's really good to see.

    She learns quick and makes an effort.

    Myself on the other hand has trouble getting my head around the Thai language .

    All sounds insane to me.

    Never Know though, I may learn to count to Yee-Sip before I turn 95.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry57 View Post

    A big problem here is the Language difference, it's impossible to get deep into a subject with a partner when they are not fluent in English.

    .
    " Dial it in from the get go" is a useful opening gambit with the ladies in Silom, I gather.

    Having an intellectual, meaningful discussion with a Thai in any language, in the circles you inhabit Terry, is as likely as finding a talking rock.

    Getting deep is not in the Thai way - think too mut make head ache, why you worry too mut, innit.

    And if by some miracle you do happen to encounter a Thai seized of a brain and educated in a real university who is prepared to talk to you Terry I rather think you will find they will smile and make polite noises before shuffling off quickly lest they become contaminated by your inferiority.

    Why on earth do you think there has not been a single significant contribution from Thailand to the cultural world in the arts or sciences?
    Discuss that with your chickenhead chums next time you are noodling in Silom.

    By the way, Kevin's copy and paste piece was excellent.

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    So what about your boyfriend Thegent ?

    I imagine you two romantic lads talk about Poetry, History, Politics and the " Full English Breakfast. "

    But on reflection, it would be mainly The full English breakfast, you Pomgolians like that huh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KEVIN2008
    4) Thai women adapt poorly in other countries. Thais tend to be very particular about their culture and even food. If you notice, Thais tend to congregate in tight knit communities when abroad who rarely venture outside this comfort zone. The lack of proactive adaptive behavior and ambition means you need to constantly be the anchor for them outside of their comfort zone. This is true if you take them out o the country into a separate Asian culture. Thais born abroad are different however but they are not considered native Thai for all intents and purposes.
    There is an element of truth in this one ,, but surely this thought could be applied to anyone going to live in another Country / culture ,, I,m sure to a certain extent it applies to a lot of the ex pats over in Thailand or other places to .

    Just human nature I suppose , not peculiar to Thais
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    Of course mate,

    Apply that to the Muslims coming to Australia and we are on the same page huh.

    These Generalizations are so fuked as are the posters who grab on to them.

    Thegent loves this shite though EH, makes him feel good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by terry57 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly94 View Post


    Says a bloke heading for 60 who never found one worth marrying (it seems) yet who does not think all Thai women are dumb, show me one that's not

    Well,

    I think you are rather a stupid sort of bastard considering what you are posting on this thread .

    But hey, its a forum so you go right ahead.

    Further more, you are jealous that I chose to remain single ???

    Jesus mate, Being married ain't considered a hard thing to do, any tosser can do it.

    Take a tool like you, Married then divorced flounce over to Thailand marry a local then discredit the lot.

    Na, I'll remain single just living with my bint's while you wallow in your sadness.

    Not hard to see why you have never found a suitable partner is it huh.

    Says a bloke who posts on a thread about beautiful women, but lives in the gay centre of Bangkok which Silom is. Takes all sorts I suppose, something sad about an old bloke having to pay whores to have sex with him though and who has never had the commitment or courage to get married. I have never been divorced.

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    The lack of proactive adaptive behavior and ambition means you need to constantly be the anchor for them outside of their comfort zone.
    It must also be noted that the Thai squeeze is also the constant anchor for the falang most of whom remain for years outside their comfort zone.

    It can be seen on a regular basis at immigration offices come visa renewal time as the squeeze takes on the leadership role and the falang sits there in bovine complacency agreeing to and signing whatever is suggested by the smirking and cheeky immigration officer as he chats up the wife.

    It can be seen at the market, where the squeeze does the buying and negotiating and the falang meekly and obediently hands over the money, and at the bar where the squeeze takes on the duties of the orderer and drink topper upper, and in fact in any situation where the falang who may have been here for 10 years or more, fattened up like a fucking pig, cant speak one word of the language save to ask for another bar in monkeyspeak, is unable to deal with tradesmen, officials, doctors, petrol attendants in fact anyone.

    They hand their women all the power, complain when they get bossed around all the time, have no interest in adapting in any way to being here and wonder why they get screwed over so easily.

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    Oh OK,

    I understand now.

    You are simply a desperately unhappy sad coont because you are too afraid to go it alone so you live in perpetual unhappiness with a wife who hates you.

    Yes I'll try that mate.

    Get a fookin life will ya, you sad Bastard.

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    ^^

    Yep spot on Tax, you have pegged that Dragonfly coont in one.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    They hand their women all the power, complain when they get bossed around all the time, have no interest in adapting in any way to being here and wonder why they get screwed over so easily.
    tax - who are 'they' you're talking about?

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    Tax is writing a History on the poster called " Dragonfly".

    Movie coming next.

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