Thread: How the fvck can they do that?

^ Thanks for your contribution mate.

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

Originally Posted by Dapper

All safes have a master reset code.
Not rocket science fella

Well when my wife opened the safe she found the security code document inside and the code was identical to the code given to her by the shop. This code she created when she purchased the safe .......How do you explain that Mr.Rocket Scientist?

When the shop makes a sale, they register the safe id number and the code chosen with the manufacturer.
Registered dealers have a way of requesting the code from said maker.

OK. Thanks mate for that but now feel a little worried that a phone call can open up security information.

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

OK. Thanks mate for that but now feel a little worried that a phone call can open up security information.

Just like a dealer can take your vin number and get a key cut for the most expensive cars...
That's why your safe also has a key.

^Double entry security...is your safe anchored into concrete LT?

Originally Posted by ltnt

is your safe anchored into concrete LT

No but it takes at least 6 people to lift it with a special collar and it is on the second floor.

I ain't rich enough to have to concrete anything in mate.

Never use mass produced safes with digital keypads. Never.

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

I ain't rich enough to have to concrete anything in mate.

I almost hate to ask the obvious: So why the safe? Fire protection for your chanote?

I think bsnub keeps all his valuables in a glass jar, nobody ever looks for the obvious...right bsnub?

Originally Posted by ltnt

I almost hate to ask the obvious: So why the safe? Fire protection for your chanote?

Yes and others.

I did have some very rare Jimmy Page signed stuff stored in there but has since been given back to the owner.

That is what I believe the thieves were after but that is another story. Didn't touch anything else.

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

I did have some very rare Jimmy Page signed stuff stored in there but has since been given back to the owner.

Valuable? Guitar or testicle?

Originally Posted by Iceman123

Jimmy Page

is he married to Elaine?

Originally Posted by klong toey

Not think to much, big brother have a camera in your bedroom as well.

We do appreciated being dependent on the very accepted ideals of electronic automation and authority, yet can't understand why our lives are so complex than they truly need to be.....

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

Originally Posted by ltnt

I almost hate to ask the obvious: So why the safe? Fire protection for your chanote?

Yes and others.

I did have some very rare Jimmy Page signed stuff stored in there but has since been given back to the owner.

That is what I believe the thieves were after but that is another story. Didn't touch anything else.

Wouldn't it be easier to lease a safe deposit box from your bank to secure such documents and other items, LT....??

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

OK. Thanks mate for that but now feel a little worried that a phone call can open up security information.

I can understand why people are wary of electronic safes, but it's not a simple case of mechanical ones are always better than them.
If you haven't got the means for a strong room, then a determined cracker can remove the safe and spend as much time as they like breaking into it.
An electronic one at least could alert you that it was being interfered with, and let you do something about it.

Something like this has lots of interesting remote features:
F Tech Master Digital Safe Lock | Associated Security

Some sort of two-step verification would be good, as would making sure the vendor doesn't have any kind of digital override code. Perhaps it would be better to have the password override code kept in a safer country (an analogue hole), and you go through phone banking type security to get at it, so you can record the call?
The risk you've identified is the social engineering risk - some Thais know you've got a safe and know how to get into it.

Security theory is a really interesting topic, firesafe security is totally related to online security.


Here's a useful article:
https://kevtownsend.wordpress.com/20...ctice-is-poor/

Originally Posted by thaimeme

Wouldn't it be easier to lease a safe deposit box from your bank to secure such documents and other items, LT....??

Guys, if you want to hide shit - you need to hide it where thieves won't look. A safe is pretty obvious mofos will head for it like a moth to a lightbulb.

I suggest false draw floors, false power sockets or hidden inbuilt ceiling/wall voids.

You can get robbed 50 times and all they'll get is the telly and dvd player

A mate used to live below a rave promoter (World Dance) in east London many moons ago.

Geezer put in 2 extra security doors in the stairwell between my mates floor and his. He used to hold mad cash - as you can imagine.

However, the thieves just got on a step ladder in the stairwell and went in through the single skin wall parallel to the stairwell (obviously they'd heard about the security renovation )

I guess my advice would be,

hiding your shit cleverly will beat top security every time.

Originally Posted by Dapper

Guys, if you want to hide shit - you need to hide it where thieves won't look.

Originally Posted by Dapper

I suggest false draw floors, false power sockets or hidden inbuilt ceiling/wall voids

Fvck, I need to employ the bloke who designed the Soprano's set.

Or maybe you can advise me about where thieves look first.

I thought the mattress was the obvious give away but since the tax department learned about that we need other avenues of stealth.

Originally Posted by ltnt

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

Ours also has a master key once you have dialed the code.

I'm surprised that your wife didn't lock the master key inside with the code? Or did she?

No

Only have Loy Toy's grinder in there, and he needs it for some aussie style gardening

Originally Posted by ltnt

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

I ain't rich enough to have to concrete anything in mate.

I almost hate to ask the obvious: So why the safe? Fire protection for your chanote?

I think bsnub keeps all his valuables in a glass jar, nobody ever looks for the obvious...right bsnub?

He's a right clever fellow...

Originally Posted by Iceman123

Valuable? Guitar or testicle?

I heard LT lost both of his in a horrific angle grinder accident and now keeps them in a jar in the safe

Only his wife has the combination.

Originally Posted by thaimeme

Wouldn't it be easier to lease a safe deposit box from your bank

thaimeme, you can't be serious? Ah, no thanks. Completely forgot about the angle grinder incident. What's the scar look like LT?

Originally Posted by ltnt

What's the scar look like LT?

Pretty impressive (I tell people that I got the scar by way of fighting off a Great White Shark whilst diving for abalone ) and with a lot of hard physical work using my arm I am slowly getting it back to normal although drumming and playing golf is still an issue.

Talking of hiding rather than using a safe...

Was talking to a sailor about boat security relative to valuables and the like.
He told me that when he sold his last boat he advised the purchaser that there was $5000 hidden somewhere on the boat....he had done it so well while in a drunken stupor that he had never been able to find it.

Living in the material world...such a shame.
If you're residing where you're worried that people are going to enter your home and take your shit you need to start looking for a new residence...
or get a dog(s) without a speech impediment that can clearly say 'Woof!' and repeat it many times. Helps if they show teeth.

Originally Posted by PeeCoffee

If you're residing where you're worried that people are going to enter your home and take your shit you need to start looking for a new residence

And where prey tell would you suggest that may be?

I might think Singapore may be the safest place in the world and after that????????????

Anyway I have nothing of real value, apart from my kids and I would not lock them in a safe, and my wife purchased the safe to store her chanoits and others.