Thread: Drug Testing : In your honest opinion how young is acceptable?

Originally Posted by palexxxx

LoyToy, are these devices that you have developed for single use only? How much are they per unit?

Hello mate.

Yes, they are for 1 off single use only and I cannot give you a price but based upon our studies they are a fraction of the cost of other products in the market.

It really pisses me off about these medical companies charging ridiculous prices for products that people really need. Bunch of cvnts they are.

Originally Posted by Spin

I disagree. do either of you have any solid examples to back up your statements?

Neither of them will mate and will just brush the problem under the carpet or as simple as tapping on a keyboard.

Positive input for a second but it seems to grind to a ball breaking halt when you ask the bottom line question just like the governments war against drugs.

No response.........no solution.

Test kids for drugs from the age of one.

If any are found to be taking shitty drugs give them a box around the ears and a quick 101 on whats what in the world of alternate universes.

Seriously though disagree with random testing (agree with what a lot of what Necron says)

Also agree that private firms (job applications/employmant conditions are absolutely fine if compaNY rules ask for and employees agreed.

As dillinger said, easy to spot drug use (ok, maybe not for everyone but for lot of people under 40)

Also, I'm very serious about debating which drugs are good an which are bad - morally

Originally Posted by kingwilly

Most of the International schools in Jakarta already do this.

I did meet with some high rollers from Indonesia a month ago and yes they are serious about at least doing something about providing a solution or at least minimizing the damage.

To be fair, and as kids we are tested all our life with regard to our academic levels without debate but when there is any mention about how our are kids are travelling emotionally or in this case physically people squeal invasion of privacy and unfair practice. Bullshit.................................

Some countries it;s illegal to take drugs, if you test kids and they come back positive, then you would be legally aware of a crime and must report it.
Not a simple answer.
Done 1.000s of drug tests in my time, prison officer and would never support testing of children. Jim

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

My questions to my fellow Teakdoor members are as follows:

1. At what age should these tests commence?

2. Would you allow your children to be tested?

Any other positive or negative comments are appreciated.

1. As soon as they start school. (4-5 years of age)
Rational: Let them get used to it from the onset, what the test is and why you are performing it. Get the parents to buy into it at a very early stage before the children decide they can think for themselves.

2.Yes and I'd like to know straight away if they have tested positive but not in front of my child.

Originally Posted by Troy

As soon as they start school. (4-5 years of age)

Ridiculous, surely you dont have any kids Troy

Doesnt it worry you about the teacher or whoever watching over your child getting his jimmy out ? What about your daughter squatting down ?
Someone will have to oversee the event.

How many kids take drugs on a whole ? a very small percentage is my guess
The biggest killing drug is legal the world over

Is this some kind of joke? Testing kids for drugs! What are you trying to achieve? World domination? Or do you just want to be a a grumpy old git?

No offence here but if I want put a derivative of a natural plant into my body, a plant which the earth gave us to enjoy/heal, I fucking will. And no MF will stop me. So fuck you and fuck your tests.

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

Originally Posted by November Rain

As young as 9 or 10, I'm afraid

Isn't it so sad NR.

9 and 10 year old children poisoned by adults making money.

People are now taking their blinkers off about how bad things are and I was told today that new forms of synthetic drugs are being manufactured now to push our kids even further into the abyss.

What a shithole world we live in today and I hope my shit can make a difference...............even though I have been warned I could be topped.

Fuck em!

Isn't it so sad.......

What is so sad? You were told that some random kid is taking some random drug in some random far away place which may or may not fuck up his random life, and now you want to throw on your superhero garb? Save us the sob story mate.

How the fuck can you stop random kids in random far away places taking random drugs? And why is it your business? Why don't you get your fat ass over to Africa and put an end to child soldiers?

I'm not saying that kids taking drugs is a good thing. In my experience it's the parents fault when that happens. But drugs, in moderation, at the right time, with the right company, can be lots of fun. So go and chew on an egg.

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

Drugs are a scourge on our society and as drugs such as Ecstasy and Amphetamines are so easily available these days younger and younger kids are being targeted and it has turned into a huge market.

Have you ever taken ecstasy? It's harmless you muppet. Don't talk about things you don't have a clue about, and carry on drinking your alcohol. You carrot.

In the UK, 300 people a year die from paracetamol poisoning. Headache? Brown bread. Life sucks dunnit.

Hey Toyboy, I think my neighbour has a headache. I can see him through his bathroom window going for the painkillers. Quick!! Get your fucking superhero cape on and fly over here!!

You are the messiah!! I bow down to your greatness. You nob.

MDMA is commonly used as a party drug. It feels good to move your body to the beat. How many freaking 7 year old kids do you see mad for it at raves?

Do you think 7 year old kids ask mummy if they can go out to play, get on their bikes with stabilisers on, meet their mates by the seesaw then drop a couple of pills and go on the swings?

I haven't done E's in years, I'm not a junkie, but get a grip man.

ROFLMFAO

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

Properly trained government officials ...

Ah. I start to see the flaw in the plan........

Good post ff, you're right. I'm shit at getting my point across in a civilized manner.

Sorry to anyone whom I may have offended. I'll go away now. Sweet dreams.

I'm glad I'm getting old and won't live a hell of a lot longer, really.

This descent into mediocrity and conformity, Chinese style, is not only depressing it is nauseating. The Rise of Limp-Wristed Man.

Having watched Eastern-style conformity produce unimaginative mediocrity in the 20th century, 21st century Limp-Wristed Man is hell-bent on doing the same, just as the Eastern populations start stirring to come out of this soul-destroying morass.

So in order to make a few bucks producing little plastic piss-containers, you cheerlead the random testing of fuckin kids.

Sickening.

Just a final thought from me on this subject. On reflection, I am 100% convinced that Loytoy is trolling.

There is no way in a million years he's making a fucking piss test thing for little people who need stabilisers to ride a little pink fucking bike.

Nice troll LT.

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

Drugs are a scourge on our society

Ive had some great times on drugs, I'm not hooked on any illegal substances that I've taken and that includes ice, yabba, coke, ganja, acid and ecstacy.

i've never been robbed or set on by a drug addict only pissheads in bars , i've bought a lot of cut priced cheese, bacon, mach 3 razors, joints of meat from the friendly local bag heads too

None of my kids have drug problems, they dont even smoke. The biggest worlwide drug problem are cigarettes and alcohol which a lot of Governments around the world are doing a great job of combatting by stopping advertisement and raising prices

All good constructive posts above, even Flashbang's efforts.

Yes, this subject is a very sensitive issue and I expected some negative responses including positive quotes.

Anyone who has ever read my posts here, and in relation to drugs, I have always supported the legalization of drugs and as the only means to counter and eradicate the illegal sales and distribution of illicit drugs.

And yes Flashbang, I have had personal experience with how drugs can completely break people's lives as well as had close friends die from drug overdoses at very young ages.

I hate the industry, the scum that profit from it and what it is doing to our society. Is that wrong?

It's not wrong, but an agenda of forced compliance with a law is fraught with peril. How far should society infring on your privacy.
If parents want to drug test their kids that is their choice.

You said before, nothing to hid, no need to worry. That's a bit of a throwaway line.
How far do you back it?

Originally Posted by Necron99

You said before, nothing to hid, no need to worry. That's a bit of a throwaway line.
How far do you back it?

My quote was Nothing to hide..............Nothing to fear.

I truly believe if drug users were aware of the fact they may be randomly tested in a public place they may have second thoughts about taking drugs and venturing out into a public place.

As it seems government programing about the evil of drugs has been a complete waste of time and money and real deterrents are needed now not only fines and the risk of jail terms.

Whether this programme will work or not only time will tell.

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

taking drugs and venturing out into a public place.