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    You don't think at all.

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    so,bENT, have you managed to look up homeopathic yet, or was all your time spent attempting to send me a red?

    difficult eh?

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    Since you ask:

    You got the red for being deliberately idiotic and as usual, destructive, so grow up.

    For your edification;

    Adj.1.homeopathic - of or relating to the practice of homeopathy; "homeopathic medicine"
    ho·me·op·a·thy A system for treating disease based on the administration of minute doses of a drug that in massive amounts produces symptoms in healthy individuals similar to those of the disease itself. homeopathic - definition of homeopathic by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.


    Some herbalists advise using lobelia homeopathically, and others advocate much larger doses.
    I have found that both methods work, but I use very little, as in a homeopathic dose, effectively.
    A larger dose (more than a teaspoon or so of dried lobelia inflata leaf) has the same effect as smoking a lot of tobacco at once, nausea, diziness etc.

    Occasionally, I will drink lobelia tea using about a flat teaspoon of dried lobelia inflata leaf to
    350 ml hot water with some lemon and honey, sipping on that infusion over about an hour or so.
    “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I said, you are gods’? John 10:34.

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    All this talk of Labia to quit smoking... its all a load of tripe.

    Mentioned already on here; the Alan Carr book. Read that - breaks down all the fears your have about quitting smoking and off you go. No problems. I quit for 2 yrs after reading it, then started again for a stupid reason, but this time, I just refreshed my memory on the stuff in that book and didn't smoke again.

    3 days gone now - physical addiction is finished. Body back to normal.

    Was it hard? Was it scary? Did I struggle? .... No.

    Piece of piss. Smoked my last cigarette at 10am in the morning, and threw away my ashtrays and lighters as I was from that moment a non smoker; I didn't need all that paraphernalia any more.

    Drove for 8 hours yesterday - that's a pack of smokes drive that is. Did I miss it? no. I felt a lot better for not smoking actually, and the irritation of smoking whilst driving. So much nicer.

    Anyway, I'm surprised Hansuman has not jumped on the Smoking thing as a conspiracy yet; depopulate the world through disease and infertility yet is addictive with a load of media telling us all how hard it is to quit.

    Simple fact is though - it is not hard to stop smoking. It is actually easier not to smoke that it is to smoke.

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    To each his own and the stuff ain't Labia, pseudo, and Alan Carr works for you, great.

    Lobelia's used for more than tobacco addiction, the best side effect so far is that I also drink less and don't have the munchies and several other side effects I'm only starting to understand.

    It's now six weeks since I stopped and I don't need lobelia any more, it's done it's trick at a tiny piece of leaf, two or three or four times a day or every second day and once I made a tea of it.

    Making the decision to quit followed by will power are the key ingredients, and a touch of lobelia made it all the more easy and pleasant for me.

    Total cost for lobelia? less than 20 cents.
    Cheaper than buying books, patches gum and all the other paraphernalia.

    Anyway, to all you reformed and reforming ex-smokers, success.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Submaniac View Post
    O Right now taking chantix (champix) nicotine gum, and electronic cigarettes. B
    You swapped one evil for another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    I have found that both methods work, but I use very little, as in a homeopathic dose, effectively.
    "Very little" is not homeopathic. It is only homeopathic when prepared and diluted according to the practice of homeopathy, ie repeated dilutions.

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    I was smoking 2,5 packs a day when I decided to quit
    I just stopped. Like that, one friday evening. It was VERY difficult during a couple of weeks, and it was like I wanted so badly to have a smoke. I used many tricks such as having a coffee, a sweet, a chocolate.... I tried to keep my hands and my mind busy. When I took a dump, I always had a book to distract me from the smoke. And then gradually I started not to think of it, not to need it
    I never ever touched a cigarette again. that was 11 years ago.
    BUT you need a damn good reason/motivation to quit. I had one, it helped me!
    Good luck.....and don't give up

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    I was given one of those arm bands that at christmas that says F--K Cancer person who has it is worse than me! QUit while you can. Lost another mate to the blight 2 months ago!

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    Lasted until 9 PM without a fag today. Will try to beat that tomorrow.

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    That's the way mate!

    Keep knocking back the urge to smoke.

    I would say to myself, "Later" and I'd then not think about or feel the urge for a smoke for hours, so was able to cut down and reduce consumption a lot that way.

    I'd not smoke indoors either, that helped a lot, having to go outdoors any time I wanted a smoke.

    When I finally stopped it was as a result of deciding ,"Now is the time!" and putting the smokes away and trying a smoke free day, then the next, one day at a time.

    For me, it was lobelia that made it easy, no stress at all, no problem, and no munchies or any irritability and no conscious nagging thoughts about smoking, just calm and relaxed.

    I don't need lobelia any more to stay off tobacco, and I also don't need anything else.

    Addiction is often to multiple substances, so alcohol, food, any other drugs, sex or any behaviour can be tied up with tobacco addiction.

    I found that alcohol was my co-addiction to tobacco, and I'm sure that anyone fighting any addiction will find that other addictions become prominent as one substance or behaviour is dropped in the recovery process.

    Each of us has to handle their own addictive patterns in our own way to successfully take charge of our lives again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latindancer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post
    I have found that both methods work, but I use very little, as in a homeopathic dose, effectively.
    "Very little" is not homeopathic. It is only homeopathic when prepared and diluted according to the practice of homeopathy, ie repeated dilutions.

    yes, I did try to point that out several posts ago but he was just rude

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    All parts of the plant may be used, but small homeopathic doses work best and instantly.
    I don't think you understand "homeopathic"
    Quote Originally Posted by ENT
    You don't think at all.
    I have reported your post

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    Fixed that for ya !

    Quote Originally Posted by ENT View Post

    Addiction is often to multiple substances, so alcohol, food, any other drugs, sex or any behaviour can be tied up with tobacco addiction. My problem was an obsession with 9/11.

    I found that alcohol was my co-addiction to tobacco, and I sure posted some crap while drunk !

    I would say to myself, "Later" and I'd then not think about or feel the urge for a post for hours, so was able to cut down and reduce obsession a lot that way.

    I'd go outdoors, that helped a lot, having to go outdoors any time I wanted to post crap.

    When I finally stopped it was as a result of deciding ,"Now is the time!" and putting the computer away and trying an obsession- free day, then the next, one day at a time.

    For me, it was lobelia that made it easy, no stress at all, no problem, and no munchies or any irritability and no conscious nagging thoughts about posting about 9/11, just calm and relaxed.

    I don't need lobelia any more to stay away from my obsessions, and I also don't need anything else.

    Each of us has to handle their own addictive patterns in our own way to successfully take charge of our lives again.
    Good luck with it, ENT !

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    drink a lot of water bENT

    see the health thread

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    here you are

    Water is the best thing since sliced bread, according to this:

    It is popular in Japan today to drink water immediately after waking up every morning. Furthermore, scientific tests have proven its value. We publish below a description of use of water for our readers. For old and serious diseases as well as modern illnesses the water treatment had been found successful by a Japanese medical society as a 100% cure for the following diseases:

    Headache, body ache, heart system, arthritis, fast heart beat, epilepsy, excess fatness, bronchitis asthma, TB, meningitis, kidney and urine diseases, vomiting, gastritis, diarrhea, piles, diabetes, constipation, all eye diseases, womb, cancer and menstrual disorders, ear nose and throat diseases.

    METHOD OF TREATMENT
    1. As you wake up in the morning before brushing teeth, drink 4 x 160ml glasses of water

    2. Brush and clean the mouth but do not eat or drink anything for 45 minute

    3.. After 45 minutes you may eat and drink as normal.

    4. After 15 minutes of breakfast, lunch and dinner do not eat or drink anything for 2 hours

    5. Those who are old or sick and are unable to drink 4 glasses of water at the beginning may commence by taking little water and gradually increase it to 4 glasses per day.

    6. The above method of treatment will cure diseases of the sick and others can enjoy a healthy life.

    The following list gives the number of days of treatment required to cure/control/reduce main diseases:
    1. High Blood Pressure (30 days)
    2. Gastric (10 days)
    3. Diabetes (30 days)
    4. Constipation (10 days)
    5. Cancer (180 days)
    6. TB (90 days)
    7. Arthritis patients should follow the above treatment only for 3 days in the 1st week, and from 2nd week onwards – daily..

    This treatment method has no side effects, however at the commencement of treatment you may have to urinate a few times.
    It is better if we continue this and make this procedure as a routine work in our life. Drink Water and Stay healthy and Active.

    This makes sense .. The Chinese and Japanese drink hot tea with their meals not cold water. Maybe it is time we adopt their drinking habit while eating!!! Nothing to lose, everything to gain...

    For those who like to drink cold water, this article is applicable to you.
    It is nice to have a cup of cold drink after a meal. However, the cold water will solidify the oily stuff that you have just consumed. It will slow down the digestion.

    Once this 'sludge' reacts with the acid, it will break down and be absorbed by the intestine faster than the solid food. It will line the intestine.
    Very soon, this will turn into fats and lead to cancer. It is best to drink hot soup or warm water after a meal.

    A serious note about heart attacks:

    · Women should know that not every heart attack symptom is going to be the left arm hurting,
    · Be aware of intense pain in the jaw line.
    · You may never have the first chest pain during the course of a heart attack.
    · Nausea and intense sweating are also common symptoms.
    · 60% of people who have a heart attack while they are asleep do not wake up.
    · Pain in the jaw can wake you from a sound sleep. Let's be careful and be aware. The more we know, the better chance we could survive...
    A cardiologist says if everyone who gets this mail sends it to everyone they know, you can be sure that we'll save at least one life.
    Please be a true friend and send this article to all your friends you care about.

    PLEASE DON'T IGNORE SHARE IT. THIS MIGHT SAVE SOMEONE'S LIFE.

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    Before I managed to quit I was once recommended the Alan Carr book by an old manager of mine.

    I was told it was really effective and definitely works. The thing is, he was telling me this while we were both outside smoking. Needless to say I did not feel compelled to rush out and buy the book.

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    A few pals have that book, at $18 or so a copy, all still smoking.

    I chewed some lobelia a few times instead, cost less than 20 cents. I don't smoke any more.
    Last edited by ENT; 06-02-2013 at 05:25 PM.

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    Nice post Dr Andy. Can't green you right now as it seems I did recently.

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    I never bought the book - borrowed it from an ex boss years ago, and returned it when I had quit. All i did this time was remember what was in it and how easy it was just to not smoke.

    Been exactly one week today now. Only had one time where I was actually tempted, but it did not last long

    Chatting with a client on the phone on Monday and realised that he had the little cough smokers always have, that I used to have as well. You get used to it I guess, and only aware of it when people point it out. I'm not coughing now though and I thought at the time "that's weird, why did I smoke just to have to cough all the time?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    I never bought the book - borrowed it from an ex boss years ago, and returned it when I had quit. All i did this time was remember what was in it and how easy it was just to not smoke.

    Been exactly one week today now. Only had one time where I was actually tempted, but it did not last long

    Chatting with a client on the phone on Monday and realised that he had the little cough smokers always have, that I used to have as well. You get used to it I guess, and only aware of it when people point it out. I'm not coughing now though and I thought at the time "that's weird, why did I smoke just to have to cough all the time?"
    Good going pseudo, keep it up.
    Yes, one of the many benefits of giving up is losing the smokers cough.

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    Good work pseudolus. I'm with you. It's been nearly two weeks for me now. Surprising how quick that smokers cough does start going away as well as the hacking up crap from your lungs. I looked into the Allen Carr book. Made me sad that even though he quit smoking he still died of lung cancer.

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    ^ and ^^^ Good to know you're both still tobacco free.

    It's been seven weeks on Sunday since I quit. Feels great.

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    Stop smoking to save yourself.
    Admirable.


    Two months later, get side-swiped by a car.
    Per chance.

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    ^ indeed but won't have spent the last 2 months of my life stinking like an ashtray, bad breath, coughing all the time, hacking up eggs mai suk mak.

    You a smoker RS?

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    I quit when I was 8 years old
    one mouthful was enough for me

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