Smith out. Ausssie win, the Test, but it doesn't mean much...55555
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Smith out. Ausssie win, the Test, but it doesn't mean much...55555
YAY !!!!!
I think this series will be very good for Australian Cricket. No good winning everything. Pretty soon you have noone to play and nothing to strive for. The Sydney crowd was pretty good and those who paid for today got great value.
Joking aside, more conclusive proof that Test Match Cricket is KING and one day stuff ain't worth diddly.
^Completely agree.
Thank god for that win and I would say that Aussie Cricket has not waned, it is just that everyone else (India and South Africa) has caught up to their high standard.Quote:
Originally Posted by bkkandrew
We will see how much your blokes have improved mate and during the upcoming ashes tour and this summer's results is exactly what the aussies needed to clear out the cobwebs. A good kick in the arse is what they needed and they received it.
You could not have been more astute with regard to your statement mate. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobcock
I was actually referring to Bobcock's assessment of the respective values of Test Cricket, rather than ODI's...:mid:Quote:
Originally Posted by Loy Toy
I was on the end of my seat, Graeme Smith, what a tough bastard. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobcock
the next test between these 2 great cricketing nations is on the 26th feb in Jo'burg
let's hope that smith's hand has repaired
Actually it does Bob!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobcock
Because of that win Australia retain number 1 cricket nation in the world status and still not have been white washed for over 122 years on Aussie soil. :)
Pretty important win I reckon! :)
Yea maybe. But the one day is made for a different market. Everyone is back at work and they don't have days to watch the test. You can listen to the first half of the one dayer on the sly at work, and then come home, or go to the game to see the rest. One day is great because you have a result the same day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loy Toy
Pietersen resigns as England captain!
I also agree with you JL and I do also love the one day event but feel that real cricket is the good old test series like the one that we just witnessed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Longprong
In fact in both tests both sides were in a winning position at some stage of each game and it was really intriguing to see the matches swing to one sides favour.
South Africa deserved the series win and now it is up to the Aussies to respond.
They took the first step and in doing this in this final test win.
Yes LT, what a great series. I reckon it was good to lose, for us and the game. It was getting a bit boring to tell the truth for me. I was in Sydney for the new year test last year and was quite sorry to see the crap that went on then. Not only amongst the cricketers, but the crowd, like a lot of big spoilt kiddies. It was like someone had taken their lolly away when they started to get hit all over the pitch and another team stood up to them. Not that I was in favour of those other bastrads, but they deserved a fair go from the crowd. It was great to see the crowd stand for Smith today. I think they recognised that even if we won today, we had been comprehsively beaten, and they showed their respect. It really restored my faith in the Aussie fair go spirit thingo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loy Toy
Yes for sure the Test series is the main game. I hope it doesn't get buried by the changing game marketing.
Anyway, lets see how they reform. It is obvious that new blood works, so I would expect to see quite a few of the old boys to get the flick to make way for the young talent.
Has the coach resigned as well?Quote:
Originally Posted by good2bhappy
yup.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobcock
never any doubt in my mind.
not exactly sure about that, we have a completely new bowling line up, and at times it was very pedestrian, aussie team is not the same one anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loy Toy
absolutely, hats off to him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Butch
yup.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Longprong
I must say that i disagree whole heartedly with that one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loy Toy
You don't take two (all time) world class bowlers (McGrath and Warne) and a destructive all rounder (Gilchrist) out of a team and not experience a downturn. Even the loss of McGill has hurt (although his better days were when he had the spectre of Warne hovering over him).
It's easy to captain a great team, and I think ponting has also been found lacking as a captain without the best tools around him.
Australia are severly struggling to take 20 wickets at the moment, and that can put a different kind of pressure on a batting line up. I still believe the batting is strong with only Hayden's form a worry.
There is no doubt that the Australians are not close to being the team they have been over the last 10 years.
Unfortunately I didn't see any of the last series and quite possibly you are correct with regard to the bowling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobcock
I knew well before the South African Tour that it was going to be tough as Brett Lee was not fit either and the Proteas have a very strong side.
The new bowlers coming through need to be given a chance and lets not forget Warne's first test match reaped 1 for 123 odd and from memory and he was hit all over the park.
Can't wait for the return S.A matches and of course the Ashes Series.
I have a small wager with Andrew! :)
^^ OI! that wasnt my quote!
Interesting that nearly all the injured players for the aussies had been playing for the Indian comp...
Well M. Hayden has been removed from the ODI squad, so is this the end of his carreer or will he be picked to tour SA?
i doubt it, they need to give the experience to younger batsmen for building up for the Ashes.Quote:
Originally Posted by good2bhappy
Brett Lee also needs to rethink his strategy as well.
Lee is a good test match bowler, that is not in doubt, but genuine world class he isn't. His main weapon has always been his pace, that is in decline. He and his captain need to realise that and change how he is utilised.
Most of the great fast bowlers were just as good in their declining years but relying on know how rather than pace, Lillee, Marshall, Holding etc.
I'm not sure how good Lee's know how is.
lee in ODIs has an enviable strike rate!
As a test player his figures are not spectacular
I agree, his extra pace is invaluable in one day games, but I don't take any real interest in them.
Again to take as many test wickets as him you have to be a good bowler, but I hate to see the terms 'great', 'world class' bandied about, it really irks me.
For Warne and McGrath the term world class sometimes didn't even suffice.
On a side note, I saw an article about Danny Cipriani, England fly half referring to him as 'great' and a 'genius'. Fuck me, a hand full of tests, most of them disasterous and a serious flaw in his kicking from hand and he gets those terms thrown at him. Ridiculous (and not his fault).
exactly, and lets not forget Gilly either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobcock
Andrew Straus appointed captain of England.
Guptill(NZ) makes a debut century(ODI)
Only the 5th batsman to do this.
Who are they playing? Holland?Quote:
Originally Posted by good2bhappy
West Indies
Not much difference these days.
well there is a 20/20 today Aus/SA
should be fast and furious
Lots of new and used names in the Aus side..
Aus won the toss and elected to bat
DA Warner, what a start.
Anybody know anything about him other than he uses a double faced bat?
^ 2nd fastest international 20/20 50
I dont think he used that bat last night...some blokes think it gives the batsman an unfair advantage...He's some fucking slogger though..
the end of a great.
EXCLUSIVE: IT'S over. Australian opening batsman Matthew Hayden has decided to draw the curtain on his outstanding international career.
The Herald Sun can reveal Hayden has decided to quit cricket and it is likely he will be given a rousing farewell with a lap of the ground at tonight's Twenty20 match between South Africa and Australia at the Gabba.
Hayden is expected to make the announcement official at a press conference at the Gabba at 12.30pm.
Hayden, 37, who played 103 Tests, has been mulling over his decision for several days after being omitted from the Australia Twenty20 and one-day sides.
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Hayden's exit comes after a rugged summer in which he failed to pass 50 in five home Tests.
But he will leave the game as arguably Australia's greatest opener with a record (8624 runs at 50.74) that seemed a moon ride away when he played just seven Tests in his first five years as a Test player.
Australia is understood to be undecided who will replace Hayden in the Test team though Phil Jaques, a century-maker in his last Test against the West Indies, must be given another chance if he can fully recover from a back injury.
Hayden's cricketing journey started on the family farm at Kingaroy where elder brother Gary gave him a robust working over on a home made pitch.
The road to greatness contained many testing potholes including people expressing reservations over his size (large), his footwork and his work off his pads.
But few players in the game have ever worked harder and each box was ticked and each bogey hacked down as he made a painstaking progression to the international ranks.
Allan Border once said of him: "People say he is not orthodox but all othodox really means is the way most people do things. It doesn't mean it is right.
"Every season he seems to work harder to come up with a shot that keeps him ahead of bowlers who were still planning from the season before."
After blazing like a comet through his breakthrough tour of India in 2001 Hayden dominated world attacks for the next three years.
His cavalier front-foot style terrorised rival attacks who were also chastened by his imposing body language.
His fierce will was evident even more in one-day cricket than Tests. He was dropped, seemingly never to return from the Australian one-day side in 2005, but fought his way back to be a star of the 2007 World Cup in the West Indies.
Shame that, good player Hayden. I saw him score two hundreds before he made his test debut, he'd have been 22. took him a long while to nail down the Aussie job full time, slater got it ahead of him.
He helped revolutionise the way Australians played modern day Test Cricket, keep the clock at 4 an over, put the opposition batsmen under real pressure when it is their turn. Great Stuff.
Sad to see you go Matt.
Bailed out before the spectre of heavy defeat in The Ashes...
let's hope.......
:rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by bkkandrew
whatevaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
bring it on!