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    Big lovable Kev...one of the greats.... stupid graph though, only Test runs matter and here's the numbers

    8900 - Graham Gooch (118)
    8463 - Alec Stewart (133)
    8231 - David Gower (117)
    8114 - Geoffrey Boycott (108)
    7887 - Kevin Pietersen (99)
    7801 - Alastair Cook (97)
    7728 - Michael Atherton (115)

    Statistically just below them is the best record of Wally Hammond but he played at the same time as Don Bradman when batting was obviously very easy.

    Stewart didn't even average 40 so he makes the list through longevity and with some occasional brilliant innings (the two tons in Bridgetown spring to mind) combined with a lot of mediocrity based on him keeping wicket as well.

    Gower was lovely to watch if a little frail, Boycott..... well....he was Boycott, did a job but truthfully, close to being as boring as Boring Bill Lawry of Boringtown, Victoria.

    Gooch was good on his day, his record in his latter years so much better than his earlier days, but to me the one man I would pay to see on that list is KP.

    Great player, I hope he has an awesome Ashes in Australia swansong. I'd like to see him fourth on that list by the end of the series (behing Gooch, Stewart and Cook....555)I doubt he'll get clapped to the wicket in the 5th test but that won't bother him, he's just busy being KP.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcock
    I'd like to see him fourth on that list by the end of the series
    1st would be fun.

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    ^^ not one Pom is in the 10,000 test run club I see. Prolly won't be long given the amount of cricket played these days, but pretty piss poor effort none the less..

    Scoring over 10000 runs across a playing career is considered a significant achievement in Test cricket. The feat, first achieved by Indian batsman Sunil Gavaskar in March 1987, has only been achieved by eleven players in the history of the game as of 2013. Three Indian players have scored 10,000 runs, along with three Australians, one South African, two members of the West Indies cricket team and two Sri Lankan players. Bangladesh, New Zealand, Pakistan and England are yet to see a Test player breach the 10,000 mark.

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    The climate in England may have prevented progress to that magic figure on occasions

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    ahahahah... nothing to do with the fact that Ponting and Waugh played 168 tests and Border 158?

    We acknowledge that Stewart got on the list through longevity...... other than that.... no one played enough test matches.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcock
    7887 - Kevin Pietersen (99)
    7801 - Alastair Cook (97)
    That's not looking too bad...

    Add Bell and Trott, and if any 1 of the 4 fires per innings then we're in the runs, competitive. If any 2 fire then it's unlikely we'll be losing that match. Not a bad state of affiars, me thinks...

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    hope the rain stays away in SL for the T20I tonight

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobcock View Post
    ahahahah... nothing to do with the fact that Ponting and Waugh played 168 tests and Border 158?

    We acknowledge that Stewart got on the list through longevity...... other than that.... no one played enough test matches.....
    Why didn't the 'pommy legends' play more test matches then ?

    Australia and England play about the same number of test matches don't they?

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    Well, In Cook and Pietersen's case they haven't finished their careers.

    Gooch started in an era (1975) where they didn't play as much, as did Gower (1977), as did Boycott (196?), so no.... they didn't.

    Stewart we have admitted wasn't good enough to get 10,000 whilst playing a lot as wicketkeeper and Atherton retired quite early rather than hang around like a bad smell like Ponting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wally Dorian Raffles
    Why didn't the 'pommy legends' play more test matches then ?
    Dont wanna risk themselves.

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    I'm pretty sure England , as a team have always played as much - if not more test matches than Australia considering the ICC was based in Lords for most of cricketing history. In recent history, they definitely play about the same amount - which is more than other teams. So the only reason why there are no poms in the 10,000 run club is because they did not play as many tests for personal reasons. ie: could not maintain form for long enough or started their careers too late.

    Re: Ponting . He may have stayed around a couple of seasons too long, but 13,000+ runs is quite phenomenal.

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    Yes, they probably did play the same amount in the 70's which is a lot less than they do now. After all, I don't see any Chappells, Lawrys, Simpsons, McCoskers, et al in the list either. Since several of those guys had careers starting in the 70's it makes sense that they played slightly less cricket than those who started later such as Waugh and Ponting.

    Plus the financial rewards are better and sportsmen a fair bit more mercenary so there is more 'hanging on' at the end of their careers, you mention Ponting, but hell, who was there to replace him? No other captain in history would have been allowed to lose the ashes that many times but again, there was no one to replace the ailing General.

    Boycott refused to be selected for a 3-4 year period because of his desire to win the huge internal battle going on at Headingley. Yorkshire meant too much to him.

    I also think that the English model in the past has meant that most players come into test cricket a year or two later than their Australian bretheren. England has a larger pool of professional cricketers fighting for the places (18 counties, South Africa, India, Pakistan and even second rate Australians and Kiwis....5555) which can also hold young talent back when selectors are looking to fill a slot. 18 number 3's to choose from makes the youngster not seem so obvious.

    Gower was 21 when he made his test debut which isn't that young and yet he was debatably the greatest shining young 'un English cricket has ever seen.

    Do the maths, at this rate if Cook hangs on to play 168 test matches he wll get 13,511 test runs.

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    England captain Alastair Cook insists his side doesn't fear anyone, talks up Stuart B

    ALASTAIR Cook has hit back at David Warner's claim that England fear Australia and has backed Stuart Broad to be the fast-bowling bully who can storm the Gabba Fortress.

    Warner yesterday fired an opening salvo at the tourists, suggesting England were fearful of an Australian side that has not lost a Test match in Brisbane since the mighty West Indies prevailed in 1988.

    But ahead of the first Test starting tomorrow, Cook scoffed at Warner's critique, saying the English are steeled mentally by their Ashes series triumph in Australia in 2010-11.

    "We certainly don't fear anyone," Cook said today at his final press conference before the Ashes opener.

    "That's quite clear to see how we go about our business.

    "We are a very competitive side and there is no reason to fear any side out there.

    "We don't really concentrate on what people say about us, it's how we play in that first hour tomorrow.

    "People can say what they want, there has been a lot of words spoken, but we all know come 10 o'clock tomorrow all that matters is who plays best."

    And if there is any Englishman up for the challenge of conquering Australia at the Gabba, it is Broad. The fact that he is such a Shit Bloke and you effectively have to take his wicket twice is a very strong factor in England's favour.

    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/cr...-1226764446255

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necron99
    The fact that he is such a Shit Bloke and you effectively have to take his wicket twice is a very strong factor in England's favour.
    hahahahaha.... methinks there is a bit of artistic license in your quoting of the article.....

    Top Draw banter.... maybe this should be the last word before tomorrow.....

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    Broad to bowl the shackle/knuckle draggers out in 2 overs tomorrow.

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    Prediction: Harris, Clarke & Smith to do well for Oz. Anderson, KP & Bell for the poms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Wally Dorian Raffles
    Does anybody know of an iPhone app where I can watch some of the games at work or on the train ?
    I prefer to listen to the cricket as I can't watch it and work at the same time. I use TuneIn radio than listen to BBC Radio 5.
    Using the app going to work now for the 1st time. Have managed to tune into Sydney station 2UE who took the cricketing broadcasting rights from the ABC in Australia. Happy to tune in to home soil as I find the BBC commentators boring and bias. Much rather listen to bias Aussie commentators

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog View Post
    Broad to bowl the shackle/knuckle draggers out in 2 overs tomorrow.
    Really ?


    Ohhh. I see, it's that famous banter.

    gotchya.


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    Australia have won the toss and will bat first. "The wicket looks fantastic," says Michael Clarke.
    Alastair Cook: "It's a very special day and can't wait to get going. We'd have batted first. But you can make some inroads."
    9.30am England team confirmed: Prior is fit and Tremlett is third quick. For Australia, Lyon keeps his place and Faulkner is 12th man.

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    Australia team
    DA Warner, CJL Rogers, SR Watson, MJ Clarke*, SPD Smith, GJ Bailey, BJ Haddin†, PM Siddle, MG Johnson, NM Lyon, RJ Harris

    England team
    AN Cook*, MA Carberry, IJL Trott, KP Pietersen, IR Bell, JE Root, MJ Prior†, SCJ Broad, GP Swann, JM Anderson, CT Tremlett

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    Strong English team that.

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    First strike Broad. To good for Rogers.

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    WDR? You getting any proper commentary.

    I've only got test match sofa.

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    Here's my test match sofa.

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    Fuck me..... 1960's wallpaper....how retro....

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