Thread: Today's Rugby

Originally Posted by Bobcock

Oh how many Keewees have told me the All Black shirt would never have a sponsors logo on the front of it?

Well that great whopping adidas thingy thats been there for ages is a logo and a sponsorship I think.

It did look cheap, we always do when someone gets tired of his constant infringements, we just aren't good at retaliation. Or cheating..

The adidas logo is a kit manufacturers logo, always had one of them....but then they used to have a Steinlager advertisement years ago.....they were pre-precious days for the nation as a whole though.

They steadfastly refused to allow adidas to put their traditional 3 stripes anywhere on the All Blacks kit.

Pocock isn't good at cheating.....hahahahahahahahahaha....fuck me dead.... he's the worst (read best) in the game at it......

Originally Posted by Necron99

If you read this, the similarities are amazing.
Golden era beckons for Wallabies | The Roar

Despite no tries, it was an enthralling game, perhaps one game too many for the Darkness and the Wallabies had a basically fresh line up.
Hope Higgers doesn't get too many weeks for spanking McCheat.

higgers is just a stupid tool.If you're going to twat somebody, then do it properly and don't get caught.Another brain dead Aussie.

Englanders vs the Wallabies 9:30 pm thai time 107 TrueSports extra

While we all seemed to be resigned to a shit tour, there is actually quite a bit at stake. The World Cup draw is due in December and the first 4 in the IRB standings get to head their own pool.
The Wallabies have dropped from 2nd to 3rd after the walloping the Frogs gave them and a loss to England will see them most likely drop to fifth. if it stays that way come the draw they could be in serious bother come World Cup time.

Digby, (who said the English wings were "pretty") comes back into the team as does Timani who should add some sadly missed mongrel upfront. Ben Alexander returns to hopefully man up the scrum.
Barnes ($^&^&#) is also back on the field for a benched Harris. McCabe is out injured so the centres will be Tapuai and AAC.
This will be a good chance to see if no option McCabe is the source of the backlines woes.

What's with the gay English strip?

Aussies win with 3/4 of their best side out injured.

Great Aussie blood and guts win.

Hard fought win to the Aussies, yes,but they still had twice as many caps on the field as a relatively young English side.
Lots of unrewarded time in the 22.
Cummings was great as was Hooper, Pocock has a job justifying his encumbency , Barnes is still a kick happy fuckup, the drop goal he took when we had the English on the ropes was a waste.
But still Wales and the Italians to go, and with this hot and cold mob you never know.

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

Aussies win with 3/4 of their best side out injured.

Great Aussie blood and guts win.

Yep, gotto agree here.Too much class for the poms. It's got to be difficult winning away against the NZ B side......

Poms cheated at the breakdown, but I suppose we knew that was going to happen.

I had to laugh at the end there when the commentator suggested that the England team would learn a lesson from this that forward power/dominance isn't enough to win games.

They've been propagating the myth of NH forward superiority for years with little reward, why suddenly change now after yet another end of year tour loss

love that purple playing gear
it is 'regal purple with gold trim' to represent England's place in rugby royalty

not joking

Like some football teams. it is the England's fifth new 'change strip' since 2007, a marketing deal with Canterbury, sell more supporters gear eg on Amazon england purple rugby shirt

I expected a headline of Purple Haze, close, Purple Daze

Wallabies leave England in purple daze
We must hit a purple patch: Now is the time for England to deliver
Twickenham man feeling off-colour as panto season comes early for England
Purple shirts but no purple patch as England crash to defeat at Twickenham

The Qantas Wallabies have registered a hard fought, come from behind victory against England at Twickenham, running out six-point winners, 14-20.

The Qantas Wallabies entered half time down by just three points and kept the home side scoreless in the second half to reclaim the Cook Cup and register a well-deserved win in front of more than 81,000 passionate English supporters.

While both sides registered a try a-piece it was three unanswered penalty goals to Qantas Wallabies fullback, Berrick Barnes, that proved the difference between the two sides.

Four minutes into the second half and it was the boot of Barnes that drew Australia level with the English after he secured his second penalty goal of the game.

Six minutes later and the visitors took the lead again thanks to the boot of Barnes, who put the Qantas Wallabies further ahead with his fourth penalty goal of the Test just three minutes later.

The Qantas Wallabies had the chance to push their lead beyond seven-points in the 66th minute, however Barnes saw his penalty goal attempt fall tantalisingly short of the crossbar to leave England with an opportunity to steal the match.

For the remaining 20-minutes the English pushed hard at the Australian line turning down a number penalty goal opportunities instead opting to kick for touch in an attempt to secure seven points.

The Qantas Wallabies held firm though and kept the English out as wave after wave of England players threw themselves at the try line.

Despite a number promising attacks the English failed to penetrate the Australian defence, allowing the Qantas Wallabies to hold on to record a well-deserved victory at Twickenham.

Earlier in the night England registered first points when in the third minute fly half, Toby Flood, successfully converted his first of three penalty goal attempts for the half.

The visitors hit back 10 minutes later after Berrick Barnes took a drop goal opportunity following a number of unsuccessful thrusts at the English line.

Flood put England back in front in the 24th minute thanks to another penalty goal before Barnes levelled the scores at six-all in the 30th minute when he kicked Australia’s first penalty goal.

Four minutes later England took the lead again, thanks to the boot of Flood and their third penalty goal.

Despite the score-line it was the Qantas Wallabies who were making all the running and in the 35th minute Qantas Wallabies winger, Nick Cummins, crossed for his maiden Test try and his sides first of the evening.

The try came following a box kick from England was taken by Australia 10-meters inside their own half and the decision taken to run it back at the home side.

A number of good passes and a sniping run by scrumhalf, Nick Phipps, saw Cummins released down the far wing to cross for a try to give the Qantas Wallabies the lead.

The Qantas Wallabies joy and lead was short lived after England regained the ball from the resulting kick-off and after a number of phases, and the decision to take a quick tap from a penalty, crossed for a five-pointer of their own just four minutes later.

As well as re-claiming the Cook Cup for the first time in over three years the win also provides the Qantas Wallabies with the first psychological victory ahead of the highly anticipated 2013 British & Irish Lions Tour to Australia.

i really thought the replay showed the bar eclipsing the ball on that kick,, maybe it was the chang eclipsing my eyeballs.

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

A number of good passes and a sniping run by scrumhalf, Nick Phipps, saw Cummins released down the far wing to cross for a try to give the Qantas Wallabies the lead.

The last pass for that try was about a metre forward.Blind Freddy could've seen that one but apparently not the touchy or the ref.

Nah, backwards movement of the hands, both players at full speed. A good call. Contrast that with the similar English event and though the passes looked similar his hands where clearly angled forward.
As was the Tuilagi try I thought, it took a few views but fairly given.

All in all I thought the reffing was pretty good, a big improvement on that giant noddy Nigel (aptly named) Owens.
Alexander probably got his try but the entire pack being on top of him made it too hard to call.

^^ So the Wallabies would have won 15/14 if in fact that pass was forward.

Never the less a great win at Twickenham to the team that deserved it.

Originally Posted by Loy Toy

^^ So the Wallabies would have won 15/14 if in fact that pass was forward.

Never the less a great win at Twickenham to the team that deserved it.

No problem with the result,just the pass(hand motion and ball were both forward),I hope it helps to keep Deans on the job as I believe he has done a good things with an average player pool to choose from.

I think the lack of depth argument is BS.
Deans took a brilliant team to the World cup, one of the best backlines assembled and promptly fucked it all up with bad gameplans, poor selections and ludicrous bench use.
He was then forced to do without first pick players because of the mounting injury toll and made terrible replacement calls playing many out of position. further injuries have led to his choice replacements being replaced by the players he should have picked in the first place. The team that did so well last night wasn't so much picked by Deans as forced on him and the change in playing style is evident. He needs to be on a plane ASAP with Nucifora carrying his bags.
IMHO of course.

I have to agree with most of your post mate even in spite of the horrid injury run during his tenure.

Someone made the comment that there were more capped players palying for the Wallabies last night then what England had.

There is no doubt if first choice players were available most of these capped players would have not got a run and I cannot understand Dean's fixation with continuing on with Nathan Sharpe especially as he is retiring after this series and well past his best playing days.

New blood is what the Aussies need as is clearly the English selectors decision.

You are going to lose games for sure but you must build for the future.

Originally Posted by Necron99

I think the lack of depth argument is BS.
Deans took a brilliant team to the World cup, one of the best backlines assembled and promptly fucked it all up with bad gameplans, poor selections and ludicrous bench use.
He was then forced to do without first pick players because of the mounting injury toll and made terrible replacement calls playing many out of position. further injuries have led to his choice replacements being replaced by the players he should have picked in the first place. The team that did so well last night wasn't so much picked by Deans as forced on him and the change in playing style is evident. He needs to be on a plane ASAP with Nucifora carrying his bags.
IMHO of course.

So,just to clear this up, ........ you're not a Deans fan then?

Originally Posted by crocman

Originally Posted by Necron99

I think the lack of depth argument is BS.
Deans took a brilliant team to the World cup, one of the best backlines assembled and promptly fucked it all up with bad gameplans, poor selections and ludicrous bench use.
He was then forced to do without first pick players because of the mounting injury toll and made terrible replacement calls playing many out of position. further injuries have led to his choice replacements being replaced by the players he should have picked in the first place. The team that did so well last night wasn't so much picked by Deans as forced on him and the change in playing style is evident. He needs to be on a plane ASAP with Nucifora carrying his bags.
IMHO of course.

So,just to clear this up, ........ you're not a Deans fan then?

Not as a head coach, no. I think it's pretty clear that his tenure has been a relative failure. We started with a ranking of 5th, mostly on the back of a bad world cup where IRB points are doubled and will likely finish 5th on the back of lost test matches. His winning record is nothing to glow about and in my opinion our recent no 2 ranking has had more to do with troubles in other unions, particularly the deViliers/smits regime in Saffaland and the recent turmoil in English rugby than our own good performances (losses to Samoa, and bloody Scots twice!).
The only recent compelling game where we played both attractive rugby and to a decently coached plan A/B/C was the Trinations win over the AB's. And that was with full squad against a less than compelling AB's who were looking to the world cup. As were the Saffas that year.

I do think he is a good talent developer though, he did that with the Crusaders to some degree and while he was succesful there, he had a squad that basically coached itself headed by McCheat and a core of AB's stalwarts. To some extent has recognized and aired young talent here that a more conservative coach would not have done (e.g. Cooper). but Australian rugby has never been about being conservative and once he finds these young talents she seems unable to manage them or come up with gameplans that utilize there skills.
Again, the WC, best backline in the world and depth to burn left to die from neglect.
His constant poor choices for centers who will not/cannot pass or offload means the wingers, and running rugby flounder. There have been whole matches where players like Digby have not seen an offensive ball. Inexcusable.
The constant playing of players out of position and lack of any pairings selection has made most games look like 15 strangers told to go out and wing it.

In his own words, tries are not important, winning ugly is fine he said. His constant preference for Boot the Ball Barnes supports this. Well that worked out brilliantly for the Tahs (whom he keeps selecting as the team core) didn't it. It almost caused the collapse of the franchise.

A Dingo stole my Wallabies and I want them back.


Cant find the full ad, but this has been doing the rounds along with Campos spray. Maybe the guys last night saw it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...c_vuI5cjU#t=0s

Cant get this to embed for some reason

Well Campo is about as much use as a kunt full of cold water.He's a twit at the best of times.

The only way to actually know what is going on, is to actually watch them train and get the bully from somebody who really knows and is close to the team. Not second hand stuff or the rumblings at a press conference when everybody is going for your throat.

How do you know that the Crusaders basically coached themselves? I've never heard that.

He's got a shite forward pack really.Not one of those guys would make an all black forward pack.(The backs are a totally different story though) Look what happens when the two Bens play in the front row....a different team.They didn't go backwards at all.

Your No 7 played well last night, but he's no Pocock. Now that boy could write a book about cheating, that's for sure.Just ask the Springboks.

If your forwards can dominate just a little, then you have a very, very dangerous side.

I laughed like hell when part of the press were blaming Deans for the number of dropped passes and bad kicks a few weeks ago. Jesus wept!

The only reason that the Mighty Men In Black (The most successful team in sports history BTW.) win, is because they recycle the ball quicker than most teams and they end up dominating.Look at how shite the AB's played in the first half against Italy.....Because they were being knocked on their arse and the ball was slow.

Originally Posted by Little Chuchok

I'm no Deans fan at all (Dirty stop out Canterbury shite bastard)

Originally Posted by Little Chuchok

Well Campo is about as much use as a kunt full of cold water.He's a twit at the best of times.

So your saying you don't mind these two?

^Love 'em like a brother LT.

Although, I'd have a beer with campo...I wouldn't with Deans.

Quite a good game. England were asleep as usual for the first 15 and it was a nice ding-dong battle for the middle half hour. England really turned the screw in the last 20, but the Wallys held on to get a good win.

It was also the first time in recent history that we had a ref generally biased towards England, which made a nice change (although he did miss the forward pass for the Wally's try).