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    What are you on about, it's crap. If I had nothing better to do I'd stab my eyeballs out rather than watch that formulaic PC nonsense. (Ironside is now a hardnosed ("Bob") wheelchair-bound detective (must have got demoted), and he's African American).

    Bulllllllllshit.

    When I think of the people that appeared in the original.....

    "The series featured appearances by a number of actors, familiar and unfamiliar, among whom were E. G. Marshall, Harrison Ford, Paul Winfield, Harold Gould, James Farentino, Robert Reed, Bill Bixby, David Cassidy, Rod Serling, Edward Asner, Eddie Garrett, Darwin Joston, John Rubinstein, Jack Lord, Scott Marlowe, Norman Fell, Jodie Foster, Ricardo Montalbán, Gavin MacLeod, Burgess Meredith, Bruce Lee and Ellen Corby."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aberlour View Post
    ^ Watchable when nothing better IMO. All depends how much tv you watch. If you weren't short of anything to watch you probably wouldn't bother, but if you were you could do a lot worse.
    Thought it was very poor.

    Maybe because I liked the original?

    I mean the guy was out of his wheelchair beating a guy up at the start and hanging a guy off a roof later. Shame because the source material is decent and the actor that played the sidekick was excellent in the second season of The Wire.
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    If you're into Breaking Bad you may find some solace here.... warning there are spoilers if you're saving it up for a binge:

    Better Call Saul has what it takes to be a superior spinoff

    Breaking Bad's Saul Goodman is a lawyer who's dodgier than his clients. Fertile ground for the writers of the series' now-confirmed prequel, surely?

    SPOILER ALERT: Contains mild spoilers of plot points up to and including the current episode of Breaking Bad.

    As Breaking Bad fans await the outcome of the desert shootout, there's finally a glimmer of hope on the horizon: not quite the tribal police riding to the rescue, but an announcement from AMC, confirming that they're making the Better Call Saul spinoff that's been rumoured for a while.

    "AMC and Sony Pictures Television confirmed today that they have reached a licensing agreement for a spinoff of Vince Gilligan's landmark AMC/SPT series Breaking Bad. As conceived, the new series is based on the show's popular Saul Goodman character with the working title Better Call Saul. Plans call for Saul to be a one-hour prequel that will focus on the evolution of the popular Saul Goodman character before he ever became Walter White's lawyer."

    It's a character that Bob Odenirk has fleshed out into a brilliant performance: the timing and confidence he brings to the role make what could be a cartoonish portrayal of a sleazy lawyer totally believable. He's rarely lost for words, has an office covered with wallpaper made out of the US Constitution, and a framed copy of his degree from the "University of American Samoa" where he (apparently) got an MA in political science. But what his combover, loud ties and penchant for colourful euphemisms all hide of course, is that he's very good at his job. He knows people and he knows the law, and that's an irresistable combination for a character.

    We first met Saul Goodman back in the second season. After their arrangement with Tuco falls through, Walt and Jesse hit on a rock-solid distribution model for their product: Jesse talks his stoner buddies into working the corners of Albuquerque for him ("This is the ground floor. DBAA mo-fos!"). Their first hitch comes when Star Trek-loving lieutenant Badger gets busted on a park bench after falling for an undercover cop's "if I was a cop I'd have to tell you" ruse. Jesse's reaction? Call the guy from the TV ads: "Saul Goodman & Associates is your one-stop shop for all your legal needs." Initially, Walt is appalled, especially when he spots the goofy blow-up statue of liberty on top of Saul's strip-mall office. But as Jesse points out, when you're in the meth business and you need to make sure your guys aren't going to sell you out to the feds, it's better to have a criminal lawyer who's a criminal lawyer.

    If there's a way in to the Better Call Saul spin-off, surely that's it: a lawyer who's dodgier than his clients. Of course, we've had legal shows where the staff are happy to bend the law, but you get the impression that where characters such as Patty Hewes in Damages think they're above the law, Saul seems to thrive below it. Even his name sounds shady: a contraction of "It's all good, man". As he tells Walt, "My real name's McGill. The Jew thing I just do for the homeboys. They all want a pipe-hitting member of the tribe, so to speak." We hear what Saul thinks of himself in his first off-colour meeting with Skyler: "Clearly [Walt's] taste in women is the same as his taste in lawyers: only the very best, with just the right amount of dirty."

    Now we know Better Call Saul is going to be a prequel, what can we expect? Putting aside any possible implications for Saul's life expectancy in the current timeline (personally, I can't cope with the thought of losing any more of the BB crew) there's a world of possibility. When people call Saul, he always seems to know who to call. It would be great to see exactly how he built his network of guys who "know a guy who knows a guy". I'd also love to see more stories involving "cleaners" such as Mike Ehrmantraut, who could be back in action; hopefully we'll see Saul's enforcers Huell and Kuby, and his long-suffering secretary Francesca. Saul once told Walt a story about his second wife cheating on him (with his stepdad): will we get any more insights into Saul's home life? (Who wouldn't want to see Saul out in Albuquerque's singles scene?) But perhaps it's the Saul Goodman & Associates waiting room that will be the most fertile source of stories for the prequel: it's always so full – who are these people?

    The wisdom of Saul Goodman

    "Hi, I'm Saul Goodman. Did you know that you have rights? The constitution says you do! And so do I."

    "Conscience gets expensive, doesn't it?"

    "For a substantial fee, and I do mean substantial, you and your loved ones can vanish. Untraceable."

    "I want it in a money order and make it out to Ice Station Zebra Associates. That's my loan out. It's totally legit … it's done just for tax purposes. After that we can discuss Visa or Mastercard, but definitely not American Express, so don't even ask, all right?"

    "You're a high-risk client. You're gonna need the deluxe service. It's gonna cost you."

    "If you're committed enough, you can make any story work. I once told a woman I was Kevin Costner, and it worked because I believed it."

    "I never should have let my dojo membership run out."

    "Better safe than sorry. That's my motto."

    "As to your dead guy, occupational hazard. Drug dealer getting shot? I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say it's been known to happen."

    "Don't drink and drive – but if you do, call me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    What are you on about, it's crap. If I had nothing better to do I'd stab my eyeballs out rather than watch that formulaic PC nonsense. (Ironside is now a hardnosed ("Bob") wheelchair-bound detective (must have got demoted), and he's African American).

    Bulllllllllshit.

    When I think of the people that appeared in the original.....

    "The series featured appearances by a number of actors, familiar and unfamiliar, among whom were E. G. Marshall, Harrison Ford, Paul Winfield, Harold Gould, James Farentino, Robert Reed, Bill Bixby, David Cassidy, Rod Serling, Edward Asner, Eddie Garrett, Darwin Joston, John Rubinstein, Jack Lord, Scott Marlowe, Norman Fell, Jodie Foster, Ricardo Montalbán, Gavin MacLeod, Burgess Meredith, Bruce Lee and Ellen Corby."
    It's called an opinion mate. Why would you think that me and you would necessarily like the same thing.

    I remember the original being on but I was too young to have any interest in watching it, I was probably watching the A-Team at the time. So why would the original have fuck all to do with my opinion of this one? Try not to be so gobsmacked when people have different opinions to you, it's perfectly normal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alwarner View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Aberlour View Post
    ^ Watchable when nothing better IMO. All depends how much tv you watch. If you weren't short of anything to watch you probably wouldn't bother, but if you were you could do a lot worse.
    Thought it was very poor.

    Maybe because I liked the original?

    I mean the guy was out of his wheelchair beating a guy up at the start and hanging a guy off a roof later. Shame because the source material is decent and the actor that played the sidekick was excellent in the second season of The Wire.
    They were flashbacks to before he got shot and ended up in a wheelchair Al. There was quite a few of them in the episode.

    For me unless it gets worse it will get watched eventually, during those times the decent stuff is on breaks or between seasons.

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    The first one deffo wasn't, he got out of his chair and into the back of a car. I'd have to look again at the hanging over the rooftop one because you're right there were some flashbacks.

    Even though I thought it was poor I will watch another one because I do like the guy I mentioned above.

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    Saul is the only redeeming character in Breaking Bad,

    all the others have become lame and boring,

    I liked Walter, but now his role is going nowhere

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    Quote Originally Posted by alwarner View Post
    The first one deffo wasn't, he got out of his chair and into the back of a car. I'd have to look again at the hanging over the rooftop one because you're right there were some flashbacks.

    Even though I thought it was poor I will watch another one because I do like the guy I mentioned above.
    Not that it matters mate but it definitely was, I just watched it last night. His buddy lifted him out of his chair and in to the car at the beginning, then he was hanging him over the roof in a flashback.

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    I've just checked and you're right about the second one.

    I'll not let it off the hook on a technicality though.


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    ^ Disabled people do 'lever' themselves out of their chairs to get into cars you know....

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    Can anybody tell me if Longmire is worth downloading please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alwarner View Post
    I've just checked and you're right about the second one.

    I'll not let it off the hook on a technicality though.

    Fair dos mate, I was wrong about the first one as well, his mate didn't help him in he just opened the door for him.

    BUT... . As Gerbil said, disabled people do hoist themselves in to cars which is exactly what he did. He levered himself in and then lifted his legs in after. You made it sound like he was doing fucking cartwheels before he got in.

    You'll have to come up with some better reasons than that Al.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aberlour View Post
    Can anybody tell me if Longmire is worth downloading please.
    My sister keeps going on at me to watch Weeds as well. Is that any good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aberlour
    Bates Motel is back tomorrow. Will probably be available to d/l the following day.
    Cheers for the green you just sent me Dill but I think I was wrong.

    I just checked wiki and it says season 2 doesn't start until 2014. The reason I posted it was because I saw about 6 full sized billboards in a two day period advertising Bates Motel on Sky 1. I assumed with big advertising like that it was the new season.

    Why the fuck would they make such a big deal about showing an old TV series?

    Looking at wiki the first season only finished in May, so it would be way to early for a second season.


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    I'm sure it's been mentioned by now but I just started watching "The Bridge" which started a couple of months back.

    I liked it, think it's going to be pretty good. Will definitely watch more.

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    I watched the Scandinavian version of The Bridge , or tried to...the characters were too unreal - mainly some female cop with zero people skills , no empathy , really cold and distant, in fact almost autistically so .
    And yet you're meant to believe she is a top female detective who can get into the minds of others and solve cases ?
    stopped watching it after a few episodes .

    Just downloaded Get Smart 3 fulls seasons of it !
    love wacky hilarious 1960's stuff.

    http://kickass.to/get-smart-season-1...-t1148723.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerbil View Post
    ^ Disabled people do 'lever' themselves out of their chairs to get into cars you know....
    Funnily enough, that wasn't the remarkable part.

    What a steaming pile of dog shit that program was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Butterfly View Post
    Saul is the only redeeming character in Breaking Bad,

    all the others have become lame and boring,

    I liked Walter, but now his role is going nowhere
    Saulvation ! As a Breaking Bad junkie, I was bummed & now I'm elated ! Gotta agree about Walt. I kinda like the pit bull brother in law though. BTW, The Bridge, Ray Donovan, & Hell On Wheels are quite good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wackyjacky
    I was bummed & now I'm elated
    Glad you enjoyed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aberlour View Post
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    Can anybody tell me if Longmire is worth downloading please.
    My sister keeps going on at me to watch Weeds as well. Is that any good?
    They are both worth watching, especially Longmire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Pat
    'Kill the Irishman' 2011 biopic of Irish Cleveland mobster Danny Green. Good film with cameos by some unexpected actors.
    Good film IMO. Thanks Pat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aberlour View Post
    Can anybody tell me if Longmire is worth downloading please.
    Yes, it is.

    7/10

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    As a little re-cap for everybody and a heads up of what they may have missed out on, and for members who are only just reading this thread and can't be arsed to go back through it all, what has been your favourite 2 programmes of the last few years?

    Mine would be Justified followed by Sons of Anarchy.

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    Other than the obvious like 'Breaking Bad' & 'Mad Men' - I think 'Hell On Wheels' & 'The Bridge' show the potential to be great.

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    Some really excellent shows, particularly from the US. 'Game of Thrones' and 'Boardwalk Empire' are my two.

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