If some scumbag poisons your Pet.......

Luckydog · 03-05-2008, 03:55 PM

I live in fear that this will happen to my two pals.......

However, I hear that if you are very quick you may save them by making them sick. This can be effected by pouring a raw egg down their throat or a couple of spoons of Hydrogen Peroxide I am reliably told. Don't like the sound of the latter...

Or perhaps the inestimable November Rain knows better?

**chitown** · 03-05-2008, 03:57 PM

The frist time I read this, I saw irrresistable not inestimable

Not wearing me specs - how much is that lasik eye surgery Ned???

**Northern Scum** · 03-05-2008, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by Luckydog

I live in fear that this will happen to my two pals

It's sad that 'man's best friend' is treated so badly by Thai people.

**NickA** · 03-05-2008, 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by Shitman

It's sad that 'man's best friend' is treated so badly by Thai people.

Fek, there's 3 or 4 threads on here advising on the best poisons.

**Whose Wandering** · 03-05-2008, 07:34 PM

^Where's the thread on giving mouth to mouth resuscitation on animals?

Hmmmm, that might actually be useful.

In fact, I know that you exhale through the NOSE for canines!!!

Let me find some facts to support this...

Elsevier Article Locator
here you go! and a peer-reviewed article at that!

**November Rain** · 03-05-2008, 07:39 PM

You need to be very careful, LD as vomiting can increase the risk factor of some poisons. I've also heard the egg remedy, as well as mustard & milk & large quantities of soda water (??) - to make them vomit (as I said, not always the best bet).

My advice is to go to the pharmacy now/tomorrow and buy some charcoal tablets & keep them in your first aid box. Should the unthinkable happen, force two or three charcoal tablets down them (they absorb the poison) and get them straight to the vet - as they'll need specialist treatment & possibly an IV.

**Norton** · 03-05-2008, 07:42 PM

Originally Posted by Luckydog

However, I hear that if you are very quick you may save them by making them sick.

Got to be careful here. Most poisons used are rat poisons. Problem is there are several types. Generally, inducing vomiting is the best thing to do but if the dog is having seizures you probably shouldn't. Knowing symptoms is the key to doing the right thing. Check out this link to learn about symptoms.

Dog Poison Care

In any case always get the dog to the vet as quickly as you can and they will likely survive. Mine did even though I thought he was a gonner. BTW, nobody poisoned him. He like other dogs will eat just about anything including a rat dead from poison.

**ChiangMai noon** · 03-05-2008, 07:45 PM

no idea what poison the neighbour used on mine but they started convulsing very quickly but died very slowly over a few hours.

i don't want to read this thread again if i think there was something i could have done that i didn't.

**November Rain** · 03-05-2008, 07:53 PM

CMN, unfortunately, unless you see the dogs eat the poison & realise what it is, you're very likely too late. I know what to do & we've lost far more dogs than we've saved through poison. It's all just a matter of being in the right place at the right time, sadly. By the time you notice symptoms it's usually touch & go or too late.

**Begbie** · 03-05-2008, 07:55 PM

We tried the raw egg remedy when our dog was poisoned. It induced vomiting but only spared the poor dog for a few days, it eventually died of pneumonia.

**hillbilly** · 03-05-2008, 07:59 PM

Our dog Pepsi only eats from us. Want to know how?

**Norton** · 03-05-2008, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by ChiangMai noon

i don't want to read this thread again if i think there was something i could have done that i didn't.

I know exactly the feeling helplessness you had watching your dog die. The same happened to me many years ago. Fact is there are times nothing you could have done would have saved him so don't beat yourself up. Being able to spot symptoms of a sick dog is important for any dog owner. When I decided it was time for a new best friend, I vowed I would learn all I could to prevent a recurrence of what happened with the little guy that died.

**Norton** · 03-05-2008, 08:08 PM

Originally Posted by November Rain

It's all just a matter of being in the right place at the right time, sadly. By the time you notice symptoms it's usually touch & go or too late.

Amen. With most of the poisons readily available in Thailand off the shelf, you have about an hour to have any hope of saving the dog.

NR, We find most of the poisonings here in Isaan are not deliberate but usually the dog gets into the poison out of natural curiosity. Is this the case in your area or do you suspect more are deliberately poisoned?

**blackgang** · 03-05-2008, 08:14 PM

A lot of times when dogs are poisoned it can be traced back to the owner that never taught his dogs any manners and the dog had become a nuisance by either barking all the time or destroying property.
But then of coarse there are people who are just assholes..

**dirtydog** · 03-05-2008, 08:37 PM

You can but 90 percent arsenic here from most shops, you aint gonna save your dogs if they have eaten that

**peterpan** · 03-05-2008, 08:43 PM

You gotta be gutless to poison a dog, if they piss you off and there is enough of the fvcking mongrels that do around here, just smack them over the head with a big stick.
Mind you its the owners or ex owners that need a smacking but sadly its illegal

**Norton** · 03-05-2008, 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by peterpan

just smack them over the head with a big stick.

Works for me. Learned it from the Isaan villager folk.

**JoGeAr** · 03-05-2008, 08:47 PM

Unfortunately, modus operandi for Thai b&e gangs involves poisoning all the dogs in the area just after midnight and then do the b&e a few hours later.

Originally Posted by hillbilly

Our dog Pepsi only eats from us. Want to know how?

Keeping the dog inside the house is one option. But the only other option is as HB says. So, HB, how do you do it?

**November Rain** · 03-05-2008, 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by hillbilly

Want to know how?

Yes, please.

Originally Posted by Norton

NR, We find most of the poisonings here in Isaan are not deliberate but usually the dog gets into the poison out of natural curiosity. Is this the case in your area or do you suspect more are deliberately poisoned?

Most of ours were poisoned deliberately. One got into paint, but we saved him.

Originally Posted by JoGeAr

Unfortunately, modus operandi for Thai b&e gangs involves poisoning all the dogs in the area just after midnight and then do the b&e a few hours later.

Yup!

**blackgang** · 03-05-2008, 09:41 PM

I have had most of my gun dogs trained so they will not eat anything unless I give it to them or it is in their own feed bowl.
Takes a little time, but hunting in the uplands of PNW where there is still some govt trappers that use poison for pests it is the only way that you are sure of your dog going home with you and still breathing.
I have some neighbors in my new home that I have already taught some choice words in English, they have yappy dogs that make vocal sounds that are uncalled for, for no reason. Now if they can find out what Motherfuckers means.

**Norton** · 03-05-2008, 09:41 PM

Originally Posted by JoGeAr

So, HB, how do you do it?

Originally Posted by November Rain

Originally Posted by hillbilly Want to know how?
Yes, please.

Think we have reached a sufficient level of begging. Please...........!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**Norton** · 03-05-2008, 09:44 PM

Originally Posted by blackgang

I have had most of my gun dogs trained so they will not eat anything unless I give it to them or it is in their own feed bowl.

Please, tell us how. dejavous

**Dalton** · 03-05-2008, 10:04 PM

My dogs died within hours as well, there was nothing I could do except watching them die slowly in front of me. I have no feelings for people who poison dogs, and I would gladly give them the same treatment as they give the dogs.

**dirtydog** · 03-05-2008, 10:15 PM

To teach a dog to only eat the food you give it is extremely difficult and involves constant supervision, most dog owners are never going to do it.

**Dalton** · 03-05-2008, 10:40 PM

^ Yep, and if you have three or four dogs, then it's mission impossible..

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