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    if you are a carnivore you are responsible for the (often unpleasant) deaths of scores of animals a year, what about that 'karma' The nasty people are the ones who are quite happy to see some animals killed but then sob into their hankies when its another species, cuddly woodley one normally, fvcking idiots. If you love animals don't eat the buggers if you don't then stop moaning about some pests being killed while you tuck into another one.
    People are terrible hypocrites about animals and animal welfare but it doesn't follow that it's therefore better (if one is a meat-eater) to go about happily poisoning dogs. Yes, you have a more consistent set of beliefs/actions - you're a more complete bastard but you have to be a fucking idiot to think that being a morally consistent grade-A bastard is preferable to being a morally inconsistent grade-B bastard; that's a fucking bizarre attitude to take.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khonwan View Post
    What an idiot. How can I shoot one if I don't have a gun? And even if I could buy a gun, why would I want to risk adding to the already high numbers of accidental shootings by keeping a gun at home where I have children? There's a much easier solution: dog owners should keep their dogs under control. Simple. What's so difficult to understand about that?? You want a dog - control it. You can't be bothered controlling a dog - don't own one. No bad dog owners - no poisoned dogs.


    Edit: "like a man." 555 this coming from someone who admits to being scared shitless by a snake! Grow a pair.
    Trap the dogs, get a club and smack them on the head.Kills them very quickly if you haven't the balls to borrow a gun.Spinless twat,

    poisoning is cruel.

    Where did I mention anything about dog owners.??You're not to bright now are you.

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    some families in the uk were complaining that someone had poisoned their dogs and then have been told about snails or slugs that leave something on the ground is the culprit. makes dogs sick or kills them. don't know all the details tho.
    also in the forests where people walk their dogs,, they died after chewing on whatever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Chuchok View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Khonwan View Post
    What an idiot. How can I shoot one if I don't have a gun? And even if I could buy a gun, why would I want to risk adding to the already high numbers of accidental shootings by keeping a gun at home where I have children? There's a much easier solution: dog owners should keep their dogs under control. Simple. What's so difficult to understand about that?? You want a dog - control it. You can't be bothered controlling a dog - don't own one. No bad dog owners - no poisoned dogs.


    Edit: "like a man." 555 this coming from someone who admits to being scared shitless by a snake! Grow a pair.
    Trap the dogs, get a club and smack them on the head.Kills them very quickly if you haven't the balls to borrow a gun.Spinless twat,

    poisoning is cruel.

    Where did I mention anything about dog owners.??You're not to bright now are you.
    Lol. You didn’t score well in your English interpretation exams in school, did you?

    BTW, have you ever witnessed a medium or large animal being clubbed to death? Unless you are skilled, and that takes experience of usually doing it wrong whilst learning, it is very difficult to kill it quickly and painlessly by clubbing. I have witnessed it – 19 years ago in a village house where around 5 grown pigs were each hit with a hammer to the head several times until they convulsed. That pork was for the local market.

    Now, I’d like you to tell me how you think I’d be more of a man to shoot an animal? That’s just a very stupid notion. Might be a better death for the animal but how does that make you more of a man? How brave or tough do you think you need to be to shoot a dog. As for myself, when I can catch them…I use my bare hands – strangulation is very effective and pretty quick. Got to be more “manly” than shooting, since one ends up getting bitten too.

    Ever shot an animal? Once again, unless you know the exact required path of the bullet through the brain, death is not quick and painless…and yes, I’ve witnessed one of my cattle being shot.

    You ever seen livestock, sometimes several, left to die in agony because some fool so-called dog-lover couldn’t be bothered to secure his little sweet bundle of fur?

    Do try to make a better attempt this time to understand the English in this post, there’s a good boy.

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    ^ Ok. You are the expert on killing animals. Congrats. Bit like being the best rapist on the block, but hey! Enjoy your glory.

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    is cyanide available in Thailand? that would seem to be the answer to all the objections over poisoning taking too long/being cruel.

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    ^^^ I thought this was about killing Thai dogs, not battling werewolves, titans and dragons (requires a bullet made from a nail of the True Cross which has been blessed by the Pope, I'm told).

    My dog is pretty average sized and I don't think it would take much to cave in his skull, especially if you normally throttle them to death and so are used to killing things with your bare hands (oh, what a toughie you are). And nor would I have to call in assistance from CSI Nakorn Nowhere to work out the trajectory required for a fatal shooting. Anywhere in his brain would pretty much do, I imagine.

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    ^ You imagine wrong. Go do your research if you don't believe me. And thanks for the compliment, BTW.

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    Well, you could always explain how yourself - you are, after all, the mysteriously prolific and expert animal killer. Anyway. Assuming it was possible to shoot him in the brain and not kill him, it couldn't take more than, say, three shots, which still seems enormously preferable to his being poisoned.

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    I've farmed hundreds of cattle and pigs here in addition to rearing sheep, goats, chickens, ducks, turkeys, fish plus cats and dogs.

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    How nice for you. So you've no doubt developed an intimate knowledge of the ease with which one can misplace a bullet (nay, half a dozen bullets) in the tangerine-sized brain of a dog. I bow to your superior skills in killing things.

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    you could throw them from some pattaya building...

    one bullet from a real gun is certainly enough to kill a dog, even if you shoot in his ass...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khonwan
    I've farmed hundreds of cattle and pigs here in addition to rearing sheep, goats, chickens, ducks, turkeys, fish plus cats and dogs.
    Which were the most receptive to a fumbled anal thumping round the back of the barn? Just asking for a friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khonwan
    Quimbiam, to your first point, I don’t share your conclusion; to your second, what are you trying to say??? Are you trying to tell me that by taking antibiotics I’m killing life? Of course I do, and of course I know I do. Where is the inconsistency in my view of vermin in this regard?

    I wasn't accusing you of inconsistency, I was saying that your statement of killing an insect is a bad reductionist analogy to the poisoning of dogs or lethal injection of humans and trying to illustrate it by mentioning antibiotics.

    I am sorry if I didn't write it well.

    Please remember that previously in the thread I had agreed with your right as a farmer to protect your livestock, and I stated that if my dogs were shot by a farmer because they were a threat to his animals I would apologise and understand.

    I do not agree with poisoning dogs though, I think (from first hand viewing of a harmless puppy I owned dying from random poisoning) that poison is not a good way to deal with nuisance dogs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khonwan View Post

    Lol. You didn’t score well in your English interpretation exams in school, did you?

    BTW, have you ever witnessed a medium or large animal being clubbed to death? Unless you are skilled, and that takes experience of usually doing it wrong whilst learning, it is very difficult to kill it quickly and painlessly by clubbing. I have witnessed it – 19 years ago in a village house where around 5 grown pigs were each hit with a hammer to the head several times until they convulsed. That pork was for the local market.

    Now, I’d like you to tell me how you think I’d be more of a man to shoot an animal? That’s just a very stupid notion. Might be a better death for the animal but how does that make you more of a man? How brave or tough do you think you need to be to shoot a dog. As for myself, when I can catch them…I use my bare hands – strangulation is very effective and pretty quick. Got to be more “manly” than shooting, since one ends up getting bitten too.

    Ever shot an animal? Once again, unless you know the exact required path of the bullet through the brain, death is not quick and painless…and yes, I’ve witnessed one of my cattle being shot.

    You ever seen livestock, sometimes several, left to die in agony because some fool so-called dog-lover couldn’t be bothered to secure his little sweet bundle of fur?

    Do try to make a better attempt this time to understand the English in this post, there’s a good boy.
    I bet you are the life and sole of a party......

    Ive shot animals.Death was quick.Very quick.

    I would never poison an animal.Slow lingering death.You coward, because you are too 'squeamish' to do the right thing.

    If you don't know where the brain is in an animal, I would suggest you look it up on the net. It's not difficult and you seem like a very bright lad.

    You've witnessed this you've witnessed that....never done anything.

    You heard some pigs squealing and that's not ok, but putting a dog through agony by poison is ok?

    You don't sound like a farmer to me.

    More like a city boy who has a bit of land and plays farmer.

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    Ok, thanks for your explanation, Quimbian; we’ll have to agree to disagree on your criticism of the logic though.

    Little Chewcock, I’m only a farmer of over 15 years here who, for part of that time, relied only on my farming income which is over one million baht (profits) per year; been writing on farming for 7 years. No longer farming livestock significantly (I’m still cropping though – cassava, maize, rice, mungbean; I have 210 rai). Though that farming income continues, it is no longer the majority of my income (no overseas income). I believe I’m qualified to call myself a farmer, and several members of TD or TV have been to my farm. This now stated, I don’t give a toss what you believe. Anyway, I’ve made my views clear, and answered many questions. I realise that idiots like you, Chewcock, are too emotional to conduct a rational debate, though I’m pleased to see that many others did, and mostly kept it relatively civil. So, I’m unlikely to reply (to anyone) further on this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khonwan View Post
    Ok, thanks for your explanation, Quimbian; we’ll have to agree to disagree on your criticism of the logic though.

    Little Chewcock, I’m only a farmer of over 15 years here who, for part of that time, relied only on my farming income which is over one million baht (profits) per year; been writing on farming for 7 years. No longer farming livestock significantly (I’m still cropping though – cassava, maize, rice, mungbean; I have 210 rai). Though that farming income continues, it is no longer the majority of my income (no overseas income). I believe I’m qualified to call myself a farmer, and several members of TD or TV have been to my farm. This now stated, I don’t give a toss what you believe. Anyway, I’ve made my views clear, and answered many questions. I realise that idiots like you, Chewcock, are too emotional to conduct a rational debate, though I’m pleased to see that many others did, and mostly kept it relatively civil. So, I’m unlikely to reply (to anyone) further on this thread.

    November Rain – trust you to own rats! What were the odds of me asking that question of someone who owned rats? (Rhetorical question, lol).
    You started farming in Thailand? Pffft



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    He did not say he started here, but 15 years here, are you jealous?

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    ^Why would I be jealous Brains?

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    So how about the good old agree to disagree thing now?

    I was hoping to learn more about how to protect dogs from getting poisoned and not people having some sort of internet bar fight.

    That's an interesting read: Ad hominem - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Unfortunately, there is no way to protect your dogs from being poisoned. As I have already mentioned, I kept my dogs within the walls of our property (except for an occasional step into the road by our small dog) and our steel gate was always closed except for when we brought the cars in and out of the drive and it was locked at night.

    Neither dog could be considered a constant barker. They did bark from time to time when someone came around at night. They never bit anyone and were considered friendly. Yes, the pit bull has a reputation, as a breed, but mine was a big baby and ignored most that went on around him.

    I have concluded not to spend a lot of money on another dog since I have seen too many die over the last 7 years and will probably have my wife obtain one, of her choosing, for free. A Thai dog has a better chance of surviving all the diseases due to the natural immunity passed along by the mother. You will still need to have all the shots against typical dog diseases from a vet and rabies is sometimes given free by the government.

    Having a Thai Ridgeback will probably be my personal choice for our next dog since they are well suited for the country. No matter what we do, we will have to be prepared that any dog we take in has a good chance to be run over or inadvertently poisoned.

    If you like dogs and live in Thailand, be prepared to lose most and only the lucky ones will live as long as our 11 year old Thai dog that just passed away due to old age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers View Post

    If you like dogs and live in Thailand, be prepared to lose most and only the lucky ones will live as long as our 11 year old Thai dog that just passed away due to old age.
    The big factor would seem to be whether it is a house dog or not. We have had one dog (my first, a maltese) for nearly 12 years now. Old age is creeping up on him, but he is a house dog. Never out at night, and only out when no one is home in the day - and if he did not chew everything in sight when left alone, he would be inside then as well.

    Different game for yard dogs I would think.

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    I don't understand unprovoked malice, even if you don't believe in karma you stand nothing to gain from poisoning pets

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    Imagine you work long hard night shifts and your neighbour has yapping dogs, you ask them to keep the dogs quiet but they never do. Dogs are dogs and they bark. or somebody keeps letting their dog shit on your lawn, now proving who it is or who's dogs are barking is hard. Harder still is going up to the 6'4" 300lb owner and having a civil word, they usually break down into stressful arguments, neighbour wars or worse. No much easier to just poison everybody's dog and have a stress free life.

    You asked why I am just giving you motive, it's not what I would do. I'm Vegetarian and a cat owner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GR3 View Post
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