Local Beers and Headache

**blackgang** · 21-11-2008, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by richie22

Does Singha give anyone else a really sore throat.

Not that I know of, but if you drink enough and kinda pass out I have heard that it will make your asshole sore.., do you drink enough to black out when it makes your throat sore? if so maybe you had better set up a cctv to see just what your friends are doing.

**Ramseth** · 21-11-2008, 05:18 PM

Many Japanese brands of canned beer label themselves as "nama biru" (生ビール). The English translation on the labelling is "dry beer" but more literally it should mean "raw beer". What does it actually mean? Does it mean draft in a can?

**blackgang** · 21-11-2008, 05:30 PM

My favorite commercial beer of all was Tuborg Copenhagen, next to that was San Miguel Manila, I liked it better than San M Philippines

**Bugs** · 21-11-2008, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by Ramseth

Many Japanese brands of canned beer label themselves as "nama biru" (生ビール). The English translation on the labelling is "dry beer" but more literally it should mean "raw beer". What does it actually mean? Does it mean draft in a can?

Dry beer has a bit of a different meaning in different parts of the world. But it is basically a pale lager that has been brewed to the point that almost all of the sugar has been turned into alcohol via a long fermentation period. Thus most “dry’ beers originally had a higher alcohol content, and also tend to more tame on the flavor side of things. However, in many US “dry” beers this is not necessarily the case. In the US the term “dry” generally indicates a beer with a light taste on the front end and little to no taste on the back end.

As for the Japanese terms - I can't read Japanese so I can not comment on the Japanese spelling, but I thought "nama biru" basically means draft beer, and I thought dry beer was "karakuchi" - al la Ashai Super Dry - but I could be wrong, or it could just be a matter of current marketing. Along the lines of bottled "draft" beer that is sold in some areas of the world.

**Ramseth** · 21-11-2008, 07:00 PM

Thanks Bugs. You've been very helpful. Yes, Asahi (朝日) uses "karachuchi" (辛口) on its labels, another term that I don't really understand. To my basic knowledge of the Japanese language, "karakuchi" means spicy taste, but apparently Asahi uses it to mean "super dry" and I haven't even figure out what that means. LOL!

Actually, I've spoken to some Japanese friends before. None of them seems to be sure or consistently certain. The closest reasonably believeable reply was that, it means as natural as possible in the brewing process. The next closest reasonably acceptable reply was like, it's something that makes you enjoy the taste of your beer without getting drunk faster.

**mad_dog** · 21-11-2008, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by richie22

Don't know if San mig are doing this anywhere else in Thailand but in Phuket if the bar buy's 10 case's of San Mig light they provide a a Thai/Philippino band and 4 mini skirted cute promotion girls.
So i have been drinking quite a lot of San Mig lately.
Beer lao is my beer of choice but can not get it a lot of bars here
Does Singha give anyone else a really sore throat.

I first drank San Mig on holiday Portugal and it was absolutely superb but when I got some in England it tasted pretty bog standard. Perhaps there is a different brewing process or it tastes better in warm climates

**blackgang** · 21-11-2008, 08:46 PM

Most of the time in advanced countrys the beer is not imported but made in country under contract, Tuborg in Oregon is made by the Blitz Winehard brewery I think, anyway it is an Oregon place, same with San Mag. it is made in the USA and not the same stuff as it is in flipperlandia..
Just as San Mag here is local brew. Corona in the states is local brew too.

**Butterfly** · 21-11-2008, 08:50 PM

I had a nice one tonight in that horrible place, Witch Tavern, a big draft Leffe

**Fast Eddie** · 21-11-2008, 09:30 PM

Whilst i have read about the Chinese brewers that use formaldehyde, i've also read that it is a myth that the same thing is going on in Thailand.

I'm off to 7/11 in a minute to get myself six large Changs.

**Ramseth** · 22-11-2008, 02:57 PM

I first tried Chang beer after I saw the very impressive Karabao elephant warriors advertisement in the early 2000s. To me, it tasted somewhere between Singha and Carlsberg Special Brew.

**good2bhappy** · 22-11-2008, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by Fast Eddie

I'm off to 7/11 in a minute to get myself six large Changs.

Neither sight nor sound of him since!

**good2bhappy** · 22-11-2008, 03:06 PM

when chang first came out it was super strong like special brew
I remember having 3 long necks, I think!

**Smeg** · 22-11-2008, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by good2bhappy

I recomend Singha light
3.5% alcohol but with a great taste.
Good for a long drink.
No headaches yet!

It is simply watered down standard Singha, hence the lower price is in proportion to the lower beer content.

**Smeg** · 22-11-2008, 03:12 PM

My recommendation for the best Thai beer

Or get some dunkel at Tawandaeng

Best Beer

**good2bhappy** · 22-11-2008, 03:20 PM

^ used to be my beer of choice till I found I had elevated blood glucose

**Wallalai** · 22-11-2008, 03:45 PM

I've long stopped any consumption of Chang, I like Singha but I usually drink LEO at home.
If we could have Beer Lao on sale here it will be my choice, especially the "Lao Dark" or Lao dam; yummy.

**Mr Pot** · 22-11-2008, 04:29 PM

Archa is my favourite cheapo; has to be good as the Aussies gave it a Gold award

**robuzo** · 22-11-2008, 07:53 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramseth

Thanks Bugs. You've been very helpful. Yes, Asahi (朝日) uses "karachuchi" (辛口) on its labels, another term that I don't really understand. To my basic knowledge of the Japanese language, "karakuchi" means spicy taste. . .

The 辛 in karakuchi in reference to sake, wine, and more recently, beer, refers to "dry", not "spicy"; dry as opposed to sweet. The nama 生 in nama-biiru　means simply "draft." The Japanese brew the best beer in the Asian region, hands down, especially their craft beers, but the mass-produced Ebisu- gold can, green-can Pilsen, and Ebisu Red- are all excellent, especially the green. It is available at a very nice if slightly expensive yakitoriya (chicken on a stick restaurant) on Sukh soi 26, the name of which eludes me- just down 26 on the right, across from Tokyo Joe's. If you can't Ebisu, the Sapporo Black Label is similar. Kirin is also drinkable. Asahi Super Dry is. . .whatever it is it isn't beer- Asahi products are mostly lousy, except for the stout which they brew annually in small batches and don't export. The best thing about Asahi is the giant golden turd on their building in Asakusa, Tokyo Panoramio - Photo of 'Golden Turd' (Asahi Building) .

By the way, here's to all the other Beer Lao drinkers- a toast to the best local beer, especially since neither San Mig Pilsen nor the delightful San Mig Cerveza Negra are available here. Just back from the PI, where a bottle of the Philippines' only manufactured export is just 50 pesos (35 baht) or less in the bars; that seems like a good thing when you first get there.

**melvbot** · 22-11-2008, 07:58 PM

I had an Asahi phase for about 6 months a few years back. Never see it in the 7/11 nowadays.

**The Zapster** · 22-11-2008, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by Wallalai

I've long stopped any consumption of Chang, I like Singha but I usually drink LEO at home.
If we could have Beer Lao on sale here it will be my choice, especially the "Lao Dark" or Lao dam; yummy.

That looks like Beer Lao Light in a Dark bottle. Weird.

**The Zapster** · 22-11-2008, 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by Mr Pot

Archa is my favourite cheapo; has to be good as the Aussies gave it a Gold award

Yup, good beer.

Australia is worse than Thailand for beer though - anyone with a bit of nous could make a fortune in Australia. All they would have to do is convince the convicts that VB is NOT beer. Coopers is decent, but still a long way short of the required standard.

**The Zapster** · 22-11-2008, 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by good2bhappy

when chang first came out it was super strong like special brew
I remember having 3 long necks, I think!

Chang was originally called Elephant beer and was brewed by Carlsberg, wasn't it? About 7.5% if I remember correctly.

**Ramseth** · 23-11-2008, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by robuzo

The 辛 in karakuchi in reference to sake, wine, and more recently, beer, refers to "dry", not "spicy"; dry as opposed to sweet. The nama 生 in nama-biiru　means simply "draft."

Thank you very much. ขอบคุณมากครับ 有難う御座います。

**Mr Pot** · 23-11-2008, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by melvbot

I had an Asahi phase for about 6 months a few years back. Never see it in the 7/11 nowadays.

I noticed that, a bit foked off as I liked the big bottles, might ask the reps why it's gone. Just had Asahi draught installed in the restaurant I'm working on so happy days anyway

**Butterfly** · 23-11-2008, 09:49 PM

trying a nice dark beer Erdinberg now, not too bad

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