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    Dead Things,Ghosts and Spirit Houses

    Just about every house here has a spirit house either inside or outside the building, Now I got to admit that we got a spirit "shelf" in the main sitting area, well we have 2 actually but one is for my booze, and then we got the main beasty one downstairs in what we call our front garden, now ok I can understand these, I think the one in the garden is where the ghosts live, I am not really sure whether we have ghosts living in the main seating area one or whether they aint allowed to live there and are evicted to the garden one, or maybe the ghosts are allowed to nip upstairs here for a quick drink and then have to go back to the garden one again, but anyway onto the reason for this thread, in certain areas by the roadside you will find loads of second hand spirit houses, I assume that you can take these home as they are basically discarded, although I believe the market for second hand spirit houses is extrememly limited, anyway here's a picture of a tree in the middle of the road on the way to my land, there must be about 50 spirit houses there, some in quite good condition I might add



    But why are they dumped? where do the Thais decide to dump their old spirit houses?why don't they just chuck erm in the bin?

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    Spirit Houses

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    Dougald MacDonald

    The sarn phra phum were plainly visible yet so omnipresent in the landscape that somehow it took a while to notice them. Speeding along the well-paved highway from Phuket to Krabi in southern Thailand, I gazed from the window of a mini-van taxi at vast rubber plantations and stunning limestone towers. Gradually, something smaller entered my consciousness: Small structures, like dollhouses, were perched on pedestals outside the cement and bamboo houses along the rural road. They were decorated like Thai temples, with ornate faux-tile roofs and curving, upward-pointing gables, painted colorfully in reds and yellows. Each was about the size of a small television. Soon I realized every house had one — they were as ubiquitous as mailboxes.

    I nudged my neighbor in the van, a seasoned traveler in Asia.

    “They’re sprit houses,” he said. “You put one outside your house so the spirits will live in them, instead of in your home.”

    I like to find a quest for my travels, a challenge that gives focus to my visit to a new place. Finding a spirit house to take home instantly became my quest. This would not be easy. At Ao Nang, we gathered packs and duffels, waded into the warm Andaman Sea, and climbed aboard long-tail boats, slender wooden water taxis that have loud motors, like souped-up race car engines, balanced atop long prop shafts for both propulsion and steering. We were headed for Phra-Nang, an isolated peninsula resort known for its rock climbing, diving and bacchanalian eating and drinking, and not for its authentic Thai culture. The shops sold only soft drinks, cigarettes, T-shirts and ill-fitting bathing suits.

    Chris and I had flown separately, and the next day, after she climbed out of a long-tail onto the beach at Phra-Nang, I told her about my quest. She smiled indulgently and didn’t ask more. When I had a moment, I began to read up on sarn phra phum, the Thai spirit houses.

    In their blend of Buddhism and animism, most Thais believe that spirits, called phra phum, may inhabit the land around a house. Though these are considered guardians, they can cause trouble if they spend too much time in the house, like the friends of teenage children. To ensure that these spirits take up residence in their own house, it must be fancier than the human home, installed by a Brahman priest at just the right spot out of the shade of the main home, and maintained with daily offerings of food, flowers and incense. Figurines of ceramic or plastic represent the guardian spirits, the most important being the chao thii, or “place lord.” Larger houses may even have figurines of the family members or servants of the spirits.

    When our time at Phra Nang was up, Chris and I again had to travel separately. I planned to spend the night in Phuket before flying home to Colorado; Chris would fly to Bangkok. I had less than a day to fulfill my quest.

    Driving toward Phuket, I passed several open-air vendors, like flea markets, that appeared to be selling spirit houses. Two things kept me from stopping. First, my driver spoke no English, and my attempt to pronounce the Thai words for spirit house resulted in a look of utter bewilderment. Also, I had noticed that all of the houses on display were made of cement, which is much less expensive than teak and better able to withstand Thailand’s intense sun and heavy rains. These appeared to weigh a couple of hundred pounds.

    Phuket, a pleasant, mid-sized town, had enough street action to be interesting but also quieter neighborhoods of traditional shops and restaurants that reflected southern Thailand’s blend of Thai, Chinese and Portuguese influences. I walked past open-air stalls selling bizarrely shaped fruit and live poultry, T-shirts and ersatz Levis, keeping one eye peeled for a spirit house and the other for racing bicycles and rampaging tuk-tuks, the small trucks that perilously ferry Thai people everywhere. Traditional spirit houses, it seemed, were not sold in the city; probably they were back at those markets I had passed, inside out of the sun.

    Finally, I wandered into an alley of newer shops, through a sliding-glass door and into a western-looking department store, complete with an escalator to men’s fashions. There, amid a display of candles, cards and other knick-knacks intended as gift items, was a single, small, dark, cheaply made spirit house. It would have to do – I was out of time.

    Chris, meanwhile, had adopted my quest as her own. Partly, she told me later, she didn’t believe I’d actually go through with it. Partly, she didn’t care if I did – the quest had seduced her.

    With half a day in Bangkok, she hired a taxi driver who spoke a bit of English and, battling the capital’s hellish traffic, drove about an hour to the weekend market near Bangkok’s Grand Palace, the 18th century home of the royal family. But the huge market failed to yield any spirit houses. No problem, the driver said, he knew another place. Another aggravating hour of driving led to a couple of outdoor lots filled with spirit houses, but all of the cement variety. Hot and throat-sore from Bangkok’s bitter shroud of air pollution, Chris was ready to give up, but her driver was still keen. “Isn’t that our hotel?” she said, as they taxi crawled along the highway. “One more place,” the driver insisted.

    Five hours after the journey started, Chris found herself at a shop filled with wooden spirit houses, only ten minutes from her hotel. She spotted a large, graceful spirit house in beautifully cut and varnished teak. The price was about $60 – a bargain, even counting the $90 taxi fare. But how to get the thing home? She asked her driver to inquire about boxing up the house. “No problem,” he said after talking to the shopkeeper. “In the morning, we come back, and then I take you to the airport.”

    Next morning, the spirit house was swaddled in foam and nestled in a cardboard box the size of a mid-sized refrigerator. It stood the height of Chris’ chin. This did not faze her. Chris’ travel quests often involve the largest, most awkward item on sale in a given country. She has purchased room-sized rugs in Nepal, a large wooden chair in Kenya. Once, during a four-day trek between B&B’s in Wales, our loads included a sizeable, framed watercolor that Chris had purchased the day before we started. The polite Welshmen scratched their heads when they were asked to handle the package carefully and said, “We’ve never seen anyone go on a walk with a painting before!”

    Chris confidently wheeled her ungainly load into the airport, and, amazingly, the woman at the Thai Airways counter barely paused. She slapped a sticker on the enormous box and wrestled it onto the conveyor. My wife is charmed that way. The next day, I called home from Hong Kong and excitedly told her about my spirit house. It was small and a bit plain, I said, but the important thing was that I had found one.

    There was a pause.

    “I hope you won’t be mad at me,” Chris said

    She told me about criss-crossing Bangkok in search of the spirit house, and then the story of her arrival in Los Angeles, where a burly, blonde customs officer had pulled her out of the line and asked, “What’s in the box?”

    “It’s a spirit house,” Chris said.

    “What’s it for?”

    “You put it outside your home, so the spirits will live in the spirit house instead of your house,” she said matter-of-factly.

    The woman looked at Chris.

    “Where you from?”

    “Boulder.”

    The customs agent nodded, plainly recalling Boulder’s spiritual-chic stereotype. She said, “Go on through.”

    My dumpy spirit house sits neglected in a cupboard downstairs. Chris’ shining sarn phra phum occupies a pedestal in a corner of our back deck, somehow blending in perfectly despite its exotic architecture. Twice a year, we varnish the teak to protect it from Colorado’s harsh sun. It is gorgeous. We have never stocked it with Barbie dolls or Gumby figures to represent our local spirits, and we’ve rarely made offerings. We admire its beauty, but we are not believers. Still, I wonder.

    One day last summer, I moved the spirit house inside to get it out of the way of a house painter who was arriving the next day. In the morning, hornets had massed around our windows. I shooed them outside, thought for a minute, and then carefully peered into the sprit house that sat on the floor. Tucked under the peak of the roof, a small hornet’s nest quivered and buzzed.

    Were they guardian spirits? Who knows?

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    Spirit house is for a spirit who will take care / protect the house. Each house will have one spirit house only.

    My parents' house, there is one outside and one inside. Not every house that has the inside one, this depends on their believe.

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    gah doesn't that make you gnash your teeth? when a Thai person gives you a (from their pov) clear explanation for something and you realise on closer inspection it adds nothing to your understanding

    what you just said Goddess, is everyone has one spirit house - except for your parents and all the people that have two

    that doesn't help!!! *pounces her* now go back and read DD's post again and answer his questions properly, lol

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    I think they discard the spirit houses because the spirit inside wasn't reall helpful.

    I wonder though why my wife does not have a spirit house. Thinking of it I think I have seldom seen a spirit house in the Isaan country side.

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    Being an open minded sort of chap, who has studied the intricacies of the wonderful religious beliefs the locals have, I'd like to say that having a spirit house is another load of old bollocks. Thank you.

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    Well her's a pic of the one in me house, as you can see it hasn't been dusted for years and there are no ghost footprints in it, so it seems the one outside is working and they must all be living in that one.


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    This next one is the one in the garden, this is the super deluxe version and also has little models of people and animals in it for the ghosts to play with, this one we had some guy come and install, he used his compass for correct alignment to something or other and then got out a big ball of string and proceeded to tie that all over the ground floor, he then asked for an obscene amount of money for wot i consider to be a piece of junk, these ghosts are quite well looked after and get 2 glasses of red fanta perday, plus fresh fruit and other stuff.

    I wonder if the ghosts would like some fairy lights round it all?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
    Being an open minded sort of chap, who has studied the intricacies of the wonderful religious beliefs the locals have, I'd like to say that having a spirit house is another load of old bollocks. Thank you.
    Maybe that explains why my wife does not have one. Although she believes a lot of old bollocks.

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    At the bar in Kan we had two spirit houses side by side outside in what was to become the beer garden. When I explained to the chief cook and bottle wash that they were in the way where they were and that they had to be moved because I wanted to put a nice bbq area there with a display cabinet blah blah blah she agreed, saying. 'Shooa, is good idea.' throwing her head back and tsking loudly.'Upu to you.' She said.
    I immediately said righto lets move the fokkers and went to pick the biggest one up.
    Instantly I was set upon by several Thai bystanders (have you ever noticed that there are always Thai bystanders standing about bystanding) and prevented from moving it.
    It was then explained to me that to move them it would have to be done with the blessing of the monks and a child was despatched to the wat forthwith to ask when it could be done.
    My reaction was 'Oh fer fok sake.'

    Anyway, the next day a young monk came to my den of iniquity and told us that the ceremony could be performed on a date two weeks hence.
    Righto, I said. Then it was explained that in fact I was gonna need 11 monks for the job.
    Two weeks later 11 monks turned up fer breakfast and started chanting madly. It woke me up and as I came down the stairs pulling a t-shirt on I saw that there about 45 locals who had all turned up in their best threads. I then found that I was feeding about 50+ their breakfast and that the cook had been in the kitchen since 4a.m. preparing all the food.
    I was happy enough with a beer and a ciggy fer breakfast back in those days and I just let em get on with it.

    When it was all over and the monks were preparing to leave (about two hours later) I was just about to go back to my bed for a bit when the chief cook and bottle wash told me that I had to stump up 6000 baht to make merit.

    I said. "Oh fer fok sake."

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    I would've said "I'm not a buddhist or Thai, so fuck off!"

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    I was running a business Marmers ol'stick. Keeping the locals happy was important. Besides at the time I was very interested in Buddhism and even waied the fokking thing every day. It kept the chief cook and bottle was happy and as she was happy to knock out food for my punters all night long for 100 baht per day I figured that it was prudent.

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    My first GF here wanted the house blessed. I said that it was no problem as long as I had nothing to do with it and she paid.

    Needless to say, it didn't get done before I got shot of her.

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    Some gogo bar I built, when we finished building it they got it blessed and then had to open on an auspicious day, it's quite funny watching naked gals get up on the stage at the start of the shift and waiing the bhudda thing, I wonder wot they pray for?

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    What is "no stds"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goddess of Whatever
    What is "no stds"?
    Salty tasting dicks.

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    ops: thank you.

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    sexually transmitted diseases gow, most gals like a salty tasting dick

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    STD is the same as VD.
    I guess you don't want one either, GoW.

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    Old topic I know, but today I believe I was witness to a miracle, well I didn't actually see anything, but I have reason to believe a miracle occured, anyway near my land is the tree with all the broken spirit houses.



    Anyway here is photographic proof that a criple was cured, infact I may sell this picture to the major newspapers


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    When the little lady and I were looking for a house to buy she told me that no way could we buy a house with big trees in the front yard. Why? Because that is where all the ghosts live, ok!

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    My spirit houses became so derelict and under-used that I evicted my spirits, they only use to use the place as a doss house when they were out on the piss, so I handed ownership over to my hamsters.

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    I thought they used he house, fanta, fruit and smelly ol's brurnin' things to lure the ghosts in, get 'em all comfy then move the house out to an old tree, away from home.

    We got a ghost condo sprung up out near the lake. Ghosts like the water, I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ozman
    When the little lady and I were looking for a house to buy she told me that no way could we buy a house with big trees in the front yard. Why? Because that is where all the ghosts live, ok!
    I think it is only certain types of trees link here:

    http://www.thailandlife.com/flowers_001.htm

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    http://www.chiangmai-chiangrai.com/spirit_house.html

    A bit here about spirit houses - last para:-

    [Editor's note: many people have asked about what happens to old spirit houses. When changes dictate that a new spirit house be created, a ceremony will be held to transfer the spirit from the old spirit house to the new. After that, the old spirit house can be discarded. Many are discarded near a temple or wat, but usually at a place where other spirit houses have been discarded . So it is common to see many old spirit houses jumbled together.]

    So now we know.
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