Cultural experiences?
Chico, don't think you have really look into this idea.
Farm land is zoned for farming, getting it changed to commercial land is a big expensive job, best you can legally build is a farmers hut.
You will need planing permission, local, provincial and as it's a treatment center, national. not going to happen.
Most junkies trying to get clean, are on meds, so on site nurse to dispense and a doctor to proscribe.
Your counselors [ who are farangs by the sound of it ] will not be qualified to practice in Thailand, so no chance of W/Ps.
This build it and they will come, is a movie plot, not real life, no overseas doctor is going to recommend some new age clinic.
Back to the drawing board I think.
Jim I take it you do know there is many such sustainable living programs around Thailand
here is just one for an example.
Welcome to Earth Home (Maejo Baandin) - Earth Home Thailand (Maejo Baandin) ?????????????
I'm sure you know there are many resorts built on Farmland?
We've already spoken to someone about the land and advised us to get a lawyer,which we have done.
I take it you know there's is a big Psychiatric hospital in Ubon,which I've already contacted,we've also contacted with psychiatric training school in the UK and they are interested in the program for volunteers,and guidance
The guy I posted about is currently contacting people he knows in Asia and Thailand.
As I also posted the program would be financed by private enterprise/Sponsors.
The land will be leased out,and I will manage the day to day running of the retreat.
As i already also posted I don't have experience in the field of treatment,and we are currently speaking with people.
Jim if you have a can do attitude anything is possible,and as I already posted it's in the early stages,and a lot more discussions and details to be completed.
I would appreciate that you don't presume to much without knowing any details.
Applies on paper and theory, Jim - rarely practiced nor the lording over enforced.
Know numerous folks that have transformed rural situations into commercial/business ventures without a hint of officialdom/permission acts or needing to pursue actions of "zoning" legalities and other nonsense.
Think too much.
Go for it Chico, do you realize, home stay, farm stay is a maximum of 4 rooms.
Keep us posted on how this lawyer is going to change green belt farm land to commercial land, would be very interested to know.
Having changed possession farm land to BKK titled industrial/commercial land myself, many years ago, know it's not a local government decision and when talking BKK involvement you are talking BOI, or in my case SME approval.
Anyway keep us posted on how it's going, just a word of warning, know of 2 retreat type farm stays down this way, plus a load of Thai run businesses along the 2248 highway, closed up by the government in the last few years. Some owners [Thai] are in the wind owing taxes.
Did they accept your room reservation request, Chico?![]()
Until the tax man comes or some other government agency gets involved, as said, 2248 highway long the Cambo/ Lao border, closed every illegal business down, even a rubber buying station owned by one of the big rubber companies.
Live here and want to stay legal, saying that what's on paper and rarely practiced would mean I don't need a visa, or other, no cops or immigration out here, but one day they will show up computers are linking everything.
As posted a long time age, German built a 4 story house with a roof top covered bar, not for business just for visiting friends.
Brother in law, some sort of county clerk [orbitor office] asked him is that legal, answer no, no one cares, said what if I care.
2 to 4 weeks can have it bulldozed, if you want, everything is OK as long as no one complains.
Just takes one upset Thai to start making noises and things can go bad, stay legal stay safe and if you have address of some of these illegal farang businesses please share, you can make some good deals buying closed down business equipment.
Jim I understand you've had a bit of bad luck with Govt officials though if you look in my link you may find this
https://luxuryrehab.in/lanna-rehab/
Looks like you're right, JP.
The Edge Rehab: Chiang Mai, Thailand
Specialises in treating addiction and behavioural issues in young men.
https://luxuryrehab.in/the-edge-rehab/
Lanna Rehab: CHIANG MAI, THAILAND
TREATMENT: Specializations - Substance Abuse
https://luxuryrehab.in/lanna-rehab/
The River Rehab: CHIANG MAI, THAILAND
Specializations: Trauma Treatment. Substance Abuse
https://luxuryrehab.in/the-river-rehab/
DARA Thailand: KOH CHANG, THAILAND
Specializations: Substance Abuse. Co-Occurring Disorders
https://luxuryrehab.in/dara-rehab/
Siam Rehab: CHIANG RAI, THAILAND
Specializations: Substance Abuse
https://luxuryrehab.in/serenity-rehab-thailand/
Hope Rehab Center Thailand: CHONBURI, THAILAND
Specializations: Substance Abuse
https://luxuryrehab.in/hope-rehab-center-thailand/
The Beach Rehab: HUA HIN, THAILAND
Specializations: Young Adults. Substance Abuse: Alcohol, Cocaine, Methamphetamine
https://luxuryrehab.in/the-beach-rehab/
Wat Thamkrabok
Drug & Alcohol Detoxification and Rehabilitation
https://wat-thamkrabok.org/
Not had any problems with Gov. officials, except some fines for late reporting and one 10,000 Baht fine for not having someone [ think kick back for them not having a guide ].
Looked at your link
https://luxuryrehab.in/lanna-rehab/
Didn't realize you are talking $5 to $10 million US investment, different story, if so will cut you in, have jungle, bears, tigers and Buddha land near by. Can build, with Buddha monks permission, no problem, they already have a retreat.
Jim I'm not talking about any amount of money,I'm talking about private investment,it's not my money.
As I've already said it's me/ex-wife providing the land and the investor,providing the resources for the retreat/rehab.
If it come's off? I have a retirement plan,and at the same time,be able to help people along the way.
I've also said its not lavish,like other places in the link.
Certain people have tried to take the piss out of the thread,though really have a look around the globe,substance abuse and mental health,is a major concern to everyone,the suicide rates are becoming unbelievable and anyone who thinks its humorous really should have a look at themselves.
Chico, you know you are going to get a ribbing on here. I don't think that necessarily means posters doing it are heartless morons without an appreciation of the subject imho. We've all probably known or been exposed to people who have had the very problems you are looking to address through this venture. You just have to roll with the punches on this thread - got to say it has the makings of an interesting one so hang in there.
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Rehabs for quitters
Fairy, stick to what you know about,being a victim that whinges the whole day long about how everyone is not nice to you.
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