Abhisit admits to Maldives trip amid Thailand flood crisis

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31-10-2011, 12:35 PM
BugginOut

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Originally Posted by Hoof Hearted

Sure it may look like he doesn't care, but really why should he ? He is not the PM. He could be riding kiddie rides all month at disney land and it really doesn't matter does it. He still isn't the PM. Back at home in the states Obama can say "look at george bush, the nation is going to shit and he is taking trips to mexico." Well as much as george bush is an idiot, the point is the guy is not the president. It doesn't really matter where he is or what he's doing. Its not his job anymore.

Because he is the head of the Democratic Party which has 172 seats in the House of Representatives. He is not retired from politics. He is an active member of the government. As ex-PM, he should show a little stamina and concern.
31-10-2011, 12:44 PM
BugginOut

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Originally Posted by DroversDog

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Originally Posted by Butterfly

Thaksin killed more Thais in the South, that the previous government did defending itself in the May 2010 riot

but since it's muslims, it doesn't matter for our racist right wing red supporters, they are not Thais per se

:spin: You do speak shite <arse pumper>. Are you adding the number killed by the peace loving muslims to Thaksin as well?

Exactly! The muzzies that go around killing school teachers and monks by beheading, machete attacks, IEDs, drive-by shootings, etc. The muzzies that use women and children as human shields. Take off your blinders. You're seriously going to keep rehashing Tak Bai? They're not Thais. They're Malaysian invaders that need to be driven south in expedited fashion.
31-10-2011, 01:29 PM
DroversDog

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Abhisit was voted out by people who were ignorant enough to vote for the puppet of a man who was financing terrorists burning Bangkok last year. Why not go out of the Country, the flood and the state of the Country are no longer his problem.

Your ignorance is diabolical. If you don't like the country and have no understanding of then people the why are you here? :rolleyes:

Referring to people who disagree with your political opinions as "ignorant" is a tired practice.

Have you read what you wrote in your first message?
31-10-2011, 02:20 PM
SteveCM

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Originally Posted by BugginOut

He is an active member of the government.

Active member of the legislature, in fact - and, as pointed out before, the royally-endorsed/constitutional leader of the opposition.
31-10-2011, 02:26 PM
SteveCM

Democrat Leader Urges PM to Concentrate on Water Run off

31 October 2011

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Democrat party leader Abhisit Vejjachiva stated that after surveying the flood affected areas he was of the opinion that too much importance was placed by the government on high tides.

The former prime minister warned that the government should not neglect the approaching water runoff from the North, which has breached flood embankments even as the sea tides is subsiding.

The opposition leader also suggested that the government should use its authority to control people during the flood crisis.

Source: Manager
31-10-2011, 02:29 PM
Calgary

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Originally Posted by DroversDog

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"Abhisit stands ready to tackle the situation and help the people," he said.

We don't need a SOE Mark....
Abhisit best way to help the people is to go back to the Maldives.

I saw an interesting photo on the Red Shirt websites, contrasting Ms. Y. and Abhi.

There was Ms. Y., up to her knees in filthy water, and there was Abhi, being assisted into a boat avoiding his shoes from getting wet.

If I wasn't such a Luddite, I would post it.
31-10-2011, 02:32 PM
Calgary

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Originally Posted by SteveCM

Democrat Leader Urges PM to Concentrate on Water Run off

PRIME MINISTER YINGLUCK URGES LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION TO:
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Have fun filling in the blanks!
31-10-2011, 02:48 PM
DroversDog

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Originally Posted by SteveCM

Democrat Leader Urges PM to Concentrate on Water Run off

31 October 2011

https://teakdoor.com/images/smilies1/You_Rock_Emoticon.gif

Democrat party leader Abhisit Vejjachiva stated that after surveying the flood affected areas he was of the opinion that too much importance was placed by the government on high tides.

Maybe he should first try to convince his BMA Governor.

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Originally Posted by SteveCM

The former prime minister warned that the government should not neglect the approaching water runoff from the North, which has breached flood embankments even as the sea tides is subsiding.

I don't see that they are neglecting it. Though you are pissing into the wind trying to pump against the tides. There will be just more water spilling out the sides.

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Originally Posted by SteveCM

The opposition leader also suggested that the government should use its authority to control people during the flood crisis.

We don't need the army to go around shooting people again and then deny that it happened...
31-10-2011, 02:48 PM
Scaramanga

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Originally Posted by SteveCM

The opposition leader also suggested that the government should use its authority to control people during the flood crisis.

All he is interested in is having a State of Emergency for some odd reason.

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after surveying the flood affected areas he was of the opinion he could do with another holiday in the Maldives
31-10-2011, 03:03 PM
nidhogg

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Originally Posted by Calgary

I saw an interesting photo on the Red Shirt websites, contrasting Ms. Y. and Abhi.

There was Ms. Y., up to her knees in filthy water, and there was Abhi, being assisted into a boat avoiding his shoes from getting wet.

Well. Thats strange. Last week my missus was telling me of photos showing Yingluk walking on boardwalks to keep her shoes dry why abisit was shown up to his waist in water.,...
31-10-2011, 03:38 PM
hazz

^I suppose if we all distract ourselves with the politics of shoes and wet cloths; we can blissfully ignore the real issues and let the politicians can carry doing what they have always done about flooding..... as little as possible until the water arrives
31-10-2011, 03:48 PM
SteveCM

^Agreed. Enough already - from whichever side.
31-10-2011, 04:17 PM
Pol the Pot

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Originally Posted by Mickmac

I think the only decisions actually made by Yingluck since she became PM have been "fashion related", which is probably a good thing as far as the country goes. And if I was Abhisit I would have gone on holidays as well, you wankers wanted Takki's puppet to run the country, well then run it !

She is running it, now stop whingeing, pansy boi.
31-10-2011, 04:20 PM
Pol the Pot

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Originally Posted by BugginOut

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Originally Posted by DroversDog

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Originally Posted by Butterfly

Thaksin killed more Thais in the South, that the previous government did defending itself in the May 2010 riot

but since it's muslims, it doesn't matter for our racist right wing red supporters, they are not Thais per se

:spin: You do speak shite <arse pumper>. Are you adding the number killed by the peace loving muslims to Thaksin as well?

Exactly! The muzzies that go around killing school teachers and monks by beheading, machete attacks, IEDs, drive-by shootings, etc. The muzzies that use women and children as human shields. Take off your blinders. You're seriously going to keep rehashing Tak Bai? They're not Thais. They're Malaysian invaders that need to be driven south in expedited fashion.

Wow, you've got some insight there, what a crock of steaming shit. Malaysian invaders, eh?

LOL!
31-10-2011, 06:11 PM
Butterfly

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Originally Posted by nidhogg

Yingluk walking on boardwalks to keep her shoes dry

she was probably wearing her Prada shoes, can't blame her though, spoiling a pair of Prada would be an unforgiving crime
31-10-2011, 06:20 PM
DroversDog

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Originally Posted by Butterfly

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Yingluk walking on boardwalks to keep her shoes dry

she was probably wearing her Prada shoes, can't blame her though, spoiling a pair of Prada would be an unforgiving crime

Only a fashion bitch such as yourself butters would know what you are talking about :)
31-10-2011, 06:23 PM
nidhogg

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Originally Posted by hazz

^I suppose if we all distract ourselves with the politics of shoes and wet cloths; we can blissfully ignore the real issues and let the politicians can carry doing what they have always done about flooding..... as little as possible until the water arrives

Simple point at the moment is that I think people living in the floods really don't give a shit whether the current government is "red" 'yellow' or sky blue pink. What the want is the water GONE. Afterwards is plenty of time to work out who was responsible for the situation.

From my water level viewpoint however, the managemnt of the present crisis is pathetic. Information being given out is contradictory or often flat out wrong. Thre is a growing deep resentment that the efforts are being made to "keep bangkok dry", and not (primarily) to alleviate the waters in places that are flooded. East and west of bangkok it seems people suffer more so that bangkok does not suffer at all.

For these latter two things, Yingluck is in the hot seat and will have to stand accountable for at some point.

To me the central issue is that Yingluck stood, whether on her own or as a proxy of taxin does not really matter, but she is responsible. People bought the story that this political virgin had the experience and training to run a country. It is clear she does not. Nobody expects yingluck to be an expert on everything, but her prime job was to co-ordinate things, and make sure that only one voice was being heard, and that the information being given out was correct. In all of these, she has failed.

More pertinently, she may have done more damage to the red/PT movement than good. Sacrificing the population outside central bangkok to save the predominantly democratic central bangkok may well be a fatal body slam....
31-10-2011, 06:40 PM
DroversDog

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Originally Posted by nidhogg

For these latter two things, Yingluck is in the hot seat and will have to stand accountable for at some point.

Yes she could have re-organised the whole of the Thai public service, military, police by now. She had plenty of time :smileylaughing:

You can't even really blame the previous government for the in-efficient and corrupt structure in these organisations that is where the real blame lies!

While we are at it why don't we blame her for not fixing climate change or at least get it under control. :rolleyes:
31-10-2011, 06:52 PM
nidhogg

^ you take the hot seat, you take the blame. Its her inexperience that is resulting in too many different voices being heard, and too many conflicting efforts being made.
31-10-2011, 07:11 PM
DroversDog

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Originally Posted by nidhogg

^ you take the hot seat, you take the blame. Its her inexperience that is resulting in too many different voices being heard, and too many conflicting efforts being made.

So she should have called a SOE and censored the media. The different voices you are hearing is because the press are free to put people up with different views. It is up to you to work out who is right, wrong, or just play politics.
31-10-2011, 07:17 PM
nidhogg

^ why do you try to confuse "coordination" with "censorship"? Looks like you are the one with an adgenda.

Just out of interest, where are you at the moment?
31-10-2011, 07:39 PM
DroversDog

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Originally Posted by nidhogg

^ why do you try to confuse "coordination" with "censorship"? Looks like you are the one with an adgenda.

:rofl: The only confusion is your use of the word "coordination" along with Thailand. Eithen the person with the best coordination skills would have trouble controlling the various interest groups. You seem to forget that she has taken over an organisation that most people in control owe their position to the opposition.

What is "adgenda"?

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Just out of interest, where are you at the moment?

I just looked out the window. It appears to be Bangkok.
31-10-2011, 07:43 PM
Calgary

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Originally Posted by nidhogg

^ why do you try to confuse "coordination" with "censorship"? Looks like you are the one with an adgenda.

Wow, have you swallowed the media agenda or what nidhogg.

Do you realise you are parrotting them, almost word-for-word!

I sure hate to see Farangs so propagandized

Let me make my point to you as well:

Wall-to-wall criticism without one sliver of positives, is not criticism but an attack.
In this instance, I would add that the media attack has clear objectives and clearcut sponsors.

Not only have you bought into the media onslaught, you have joined them in your Posts.

But then shouldn't we be discussing this on the "flood and Politics" thread?
31-10-2011, 07:54 PM
nidhogg

Wow. Tweedledum and tweedledee.

Read the begining of my earlier post. Like many people I don't give a shit of the government is red, yellow or purple.

Let me say that, whatever else was going on with Taxin, you would have seen a more co-ordinated and directed response than the current clusterfuck...
31-10-2011, 08:22 PM
Calgary

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Originally Posted by nidhogg

Wow. Tweedledum and tweedledee.

Read the begining of my earlier post. Like many people I don't give a shit of the government is red, yellow or purple.

Let me say that, whatever else was going on with Taxin, you would have seen a more co-ordinated and directed response than the current clusterfuck...

Exactly as the media onslaught has instructed you, except for the Mr. Thaksin thing.

They would be proud of you

Wall-to-wall criticism without one sliver of positives, is not criticism but an attack.
What is it about that you don't understand.

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