Thread: Pheu Thai's election policies - Do and don't for Yingluck

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves......Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them."

Careful, someone may think you're talking about 'someone' else..

So are we witnessing the beginning of a planned "Media Coup"?

Originally Posted by Butterfly

Originally Posted by DroversDog

They are? The ones that have boats can fish elsewhere.

why do you sound like the Yellow fascists you so much despise ?

Actually the diagram put up by the "Upper Gulf of Thailand Conservation Network" looks nothing like what Thaksin actually was proposing.

In the Gulf of Thailand, the water level is relatively shallow for some 15 kilometres from the shore. We will build a dam 10 kilometres out. Beyond the dam, land will be reclaimed to another five kilometres out to help deepen the water, which will in turn help clean the ocean.

Behind the dam, land will be reclaimed to create 200,000 rai, or 300 square kilometres of new land. This will form the base of a new city.

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

Songkhla MP-elect Wirat Kalayasiri, a member of the Democrat team of legal experts,

has a second career as a clown , who knew ?

Originally Posted by Mid

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

Songkhla MP-elect Wirat Kalayasiri, a member of the Democrat team of legal experts,

has a second career as a clown , who knew ?

If you use Wirat's logic anybody could sue the Democrats if any of their promises are kept. It should not matter if you cant get enough support in parliament to implement them.

they are just desperate for their judicial coup.

it is all the hope they have and will ever have

^^ Perhaps they should!

I think it is great that normal people could sue their government for the lies they spew to get elected. Real democracy (and accountability) in action and hopefully such things would force governments to be more realistic when it comes to their promises.

Even if the Democrat elect MP is suggesting this for less than honourable reasons...

It could of course come back to bite him on the arse.

In a democracy governments are universally held responsible for their promises. The process is called elections. The people are the judges in this process.

There should be no other.

PTP won the election, time for them to govern and time to scrutinize their policies.

It's all normal.

Policy No 1 - Bring back big brother
Policy No 2 - Give him back the money he stole

Policy No 3...... erm..... erm..... erm...

Originally Posted by Smithson

PTP won the election, time for them to govern and time to scrutinize their policies.

It's all normal.

Surely they were elected on the basis of the Policies they proposed in the run up to the election - They have a massive majority - so what's stopping them enacting their policies?

^ Maybe their policies aren't feasable, in other countries parties do costings to go along with detailed policies. Then these are scutinised by the media and opposition.

I don't think any costings or fine details were presented by any party.

Originally Posted by Itchy

Surely they were elected on the basis of the Policies they proposed in the run up to the election - They have a massive majority - so what's stopping them enacting their policies?

They haven't taken office yet. Do you see any weak point in your 'argument'?

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Originally Posted by Itchy

Surely they were elected on the basis of the Policies they proposed in the run up to the election - They have a massive majority - so what's stopping them enacting their policies?

They haven't taken office yet. Do you see any weak point in your 'argument'?

They haven't even taken office yet, and they're already back tracking on their promises.

^ Maybe their policies aren't feasable, in other countries parties do costings to go along with detailed policies. Then these are scutinised by the media and opposition.

I don't think any costings or fine details were presented by any party.

^ funny oneliner, but doesn't change the reality; let the elected folk take office then give them the time to govern then see how it went and make informed comment...

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

^ funny oneliner, but doesn't change the reality; let the elected folk take office then give them the time to govern then see how it went and make informed comment...

Indeed. A fair go needs to be observed.
Allow them to do their magic....

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

^ funny oneliner, but doesn't change the reality; let the elected folk take office then give them the time to govern then see how it went and make informed comment...

They'll be governing in a couple of weeks. No need to stress.

The EC are just going through their usual investigations of electoral fraud. A few MPs will be red or yellow carded. It's not going to make much difference to the overall scheme of things.

Then the PTP can then get around to their priority policy.

Originally Posted by mc2

they are just desperate for their judicial coup.

it is all the hope they have and will ever have

Yes.
Any coup will do...

Originally Posted by anotherpete

The EC are just going through their usual investigations of electoral fraud. A few MPs will be red or yellow carded. It's not going to make much difference to the overall scheme of things.

Dissolution of Pheu Thai would. Even if they are still able to form a new government under new name. It would rightly infuriate the people who elected them.

Not approving Yingluck in the first round may be a minor thing if they approve her in the second round. It remains very bad style imo however. They cannot closely scrutinize every new MP immediately but not applying the necessary resources to the likely new PM is ridiculous in any circumstances.

they should let Yingluck govern but whack the brother when he makes it to Thailand

Originally Posted by anotherpete

They'll be governing in a couple of weeks. No need to stress.

I'm not convinced. But, we'll see, hopefully the non-violent way is the way forward, the problem being that the people with the big guns like violence, live for violence, are violence...

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

Originally Posted by anotherpete

They'll be governing in a couple of weeks. No need to stress.

I'm not convinced. But, we'll see, hopefully the non-violent way is the way forward, the problem being that the people with the big guns like violence, live for violence, are violence...

Are you talking about the red shirt militia that came out on April 10 with their big guns?

The non-violent way would be a good way forward but Nattawut has already threatened violence if he doesn't get his way.

Bangkok Post : Budget overhaul in pipeline

Budget overhaul in pipeline

Pheu Thai policies to be factored in

• Published: 18/07/2011 at 12:00 AM
• Newspaper section: Business

The Pheu Thai Party plans a complete overhaul of the fiscal 2012 budget to revise spending programmes in line with the next government's pro-growth policies.

Party sources said the budget, to take effect in October and drafted by the outgoing Democrat-led government, would be "completely remade" to support Pheu Thai's Vision 2020 to double the size of the economy by the end of the decade.

"Certainly we may have to raise spending by more than 2.25 trillion baht [as set under the current budget]," said one senior party executive.

The existing fiscal 2012 budget estimates revenue at 1.9 trillion baht and a deficit of 350 billion.

But Pheu Thai believes that if it can increase revenue, then it will have room to raise spending while maintaining the existing deficit forecast.

The party, which intends to nominate Yingluck Shinawatra as prime minister once the Election Commission formally certifies the July 3 election results, campaigned on a pro-growth platform with significant new public spending aimed at low-income groups.

It envisages nominal economic growth, or gross domestic product growth including inflation at 9%, compared with 7% set by the Democrats in the existing budget bill.

Pheu Thai plans to more than double the size of the Thai economy, now at 10 trillion baht, to 24 trillion by 2020.

Party executives say they will also rethink Abhisit Vejjajiva's plans to return to a balanced budget by fiscal 2015.

"There's no reason to be serious about the timeline. We could delay that target by a year or two in order to help facilitate stimulus spending that would help meet the growth target," said the Pheu Thai executive.

The source declined to be identified due to a communications blackout by the party as negotiations continue on the formation of the new cabinet among the five coalition partners.

"Our focus is to position Thailand as the centre of Asean, and pushing growth higher is a critical part of this plan," said the official.

Senior Finance Ministry officials have already begun preliminary work on how to adjust tax and spending policies.

One ministry official estimates spending may have to rise by at least 60 billion baht in fiscal 2012 to help the government meet some of its campaign promises.

A pledge to lift civil servants' starting salaries to 15,000 baht for university graduates would potentially cost an additional 15.2 billion baht a year, while raising pension payments for the elderly could add another 13.2 billion to the current 41 billion annually.

Pheu Thai's plan to increase backing for village funds by one million baht apiece would cost 79.2 billion baht, although this could be financed by borrowing from state-owned banks to reduce the burden on the state budget.

Other spending items now under review include a 7.68-billion-baht proposal to strengthen local administrative bodies and a plan to set up a 100-million-baht women's support fund in all 77 provinces.

But the biggest expense would be Pheu Thai's new public investments, which include plans for 10 new mass-transit routes in Bangkok, high-speed rail lines nationwide and a massive sea wall and land reclamation project for the Gulf of Thailand.

While the party has said new megaproject investments would be public-private partnerships, it is inevitable that some expenses will come from the central budget.

On the revenue side, Pheu Thai is committed to cutting corporate income taxes to 23% in fiscal 2012 and 20% in 2013 from 30% now.

Party economists say that while the new rates would reduce public revenue in the short term, taxes should eventually rebound if investment and consumption increase as expected with stronger economic growth.