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    Yingluck Cabinet - 'No reds in new Cabinet'

    'No reds in new Cabinet'

    YINGLUCK CABINET


    'No reds in new Cabinet'

    By PIYANART SRIVALO,
    KHANITTHA THEPPAJON
    THE NATION
    Published on July 5, 2011

    There will be no red-shirt leaders in a new Cabinet to be headed by Pheu Thai Party's would-be prime minister Yingluck Shinawatra, according to a party source.

    However, Yingluck herself has not ruled out the possibility. The Pheu Thai source implied that the party should not allow red-shirt leaders to taint its hard-earned positive image. "The image of this new Cabinet must be very good because there are high public expectations. We have grown a tree and should not let anything destroy it," the source said after Yingluck announce a Pheu Thai-led coalition yesterday.

    "This will be the last chance for the party. If Pheu Thai lets a new problem emerge, not only will the party be unable to survive, the Shinawatras will also be doomed." The source was referring a red-shirt leader being admitted to a Pheu Thai-led Cabinet.

    At the SC Park Hotel yesterday, Yingluck and senior representatives from five political parties announced a new coalition - Pheu Thai, Chart Thai Pattana, Chart Pattana Puea Pandin, Palang Chon and Mahachon.

    According to unofficial election results, the new coalition will have 299 elected MPs, with 265 of them coming from Pheu Thai.

    Yingluck, who is the youngest sister of fugitive ex-premier Thaksin Shinawatra, said that she would wait for the official results to be announced by the Election Commission.

    "I would like to take this opportunity to thank the leaders of all the parties that have showed their intention to work with us in solving the country's problems. This is the joint intention of the five political parties and I am determined to serve the people," she said.

    She added that thanks to the party's majority in the lower House, she was convinced her government would be stable.

    Yingluck, who is set to become the country's first woman prime minister, said that she would appoint knowledgeable and capable people to her Cabinet. When asked if any red-shirt leaders would become ministers, she said she would look into the matter in detail and discuss it with other people.

    She neither denied nor confirmed speculation that Defence Minister Prawit Wongsuwan, who is close to the current Army top brass, would be re-appointed to serve in her Cabinet. "It is too early to answer this question," she said.

    When asked about possible political amnesty, Yingluck was still firm that her party had no policy of granting amnesty to any individual - referring to her brother Thaksin, who is escaping a two-year jail sentence handed down by the Supreme Court in October 2008 for abuse of power.

    A Pheu Thai source said yesterday that the smaller parties in the new coalition were pushing for the Cabinet portfolios they wanted, which could lead to conflict and threaten the coalition's stability.

    Chart Thai Pattana is pushing for the agriculture minister's seat and deputy House speaker's post, Chart Pattana Puea Pandin for the Energy portfolio, and Palang Chon for the tourism minister's seat, according to the source. Pheu Thai is eager to keep those Cabinet portfolios for itself, citing its commitment to voters to implement its policy platforms that involve those ministries, such as issuing credit cards for farmers.

    It was agreed among the new coalition partners that they would get one Cabinet seat for every eight MPs they contribute to the coalition, the source said.

    Thanks to Pheu Thai's elected majority, the party has no need to expedite the formation of a new government. It will wait for the Election Commission to announce the official election results because these may affect the final number of House seats and the quota each coalition partner will get, the source said.

    Yingluck is likely to oversee the economy-related ministries, the source said. However, another party source said Olarn Chaipravat would assume the job of economic-team chief.

    The Pheu Thai source also said that Thaksin would have the final say about Yingluck's Cabinet. "It all depends on Thaksin," the source said.

    Leading candidates for the Interior portfolio are reportedly Pracha Promnok, Chat Kuladilok and Pheu Thai leader Yongyuth Wichaidit, who is said to be favoured by Thaksin.

    Leading candidates for the House speaker's seat are Apiwan Wiriyachai, who served as deputy House speaker in the previous House of Representatives, and veteran politician Chalerm Yoobamrung, according to the source. It is unlikely Yongyuth will become the new House speaker due to his lack of political adroitness, although he is trusted by Thaksin, the source said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StrontiumDog
    "This will be the last chance for the party. If Pheu Thai lets a new problem emerge, not only will the party be unable to survive, the Shinawatras will also be doomed." The source was referring a red-shirt leader being admitted to a Pheu Thai-led Cabinet.
    Very poor effort by the Nation. How stupid do they think people are to believe this brain washing bullshit?

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    Selection of Cabinet a key test for new PM

    BURNING ISSUE


    Selection of Cabinet a key test for new PM

    By Avudh Panananda
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    Published on July 5, 2011

    The people have spoken loud and clear - Pheu Thai has a clear mandate to lead the next government and Yingluck Shinawatra is poised to become the first female prime minister of Thailand.

    After about 70 per cent of votes counted on Sunday, Democrat leader Abhisit Vejjajiva conceded defeat and offered his congratulations to Yingluck and her party.Shortly following Abhisit's announcement, Yingluck thanked her rival and outgoing prime minister for ensuring a free and fair vote. In a show of humility, she said she did not view her party's successful outcome as victory but a chance to serve the people.

    Abhisit and Yingluck together set the stage for a peaceful transition of power. But will the opposing sides heed the voice of the people?

    The country must strike a balance between street and mainstream politics. Stability will remain illusory if the red and yellow shirts take turn to protest.

    Yingluck's most urgent and challenging task is to dispel the climate of mutual suspicion among differing political stripes, paving the way for reconciliation.

    The Lower House of Parliament will convene its first session by August 2 to elect a speaker and two deputies. The House vote to elect the prime minister is likely to take place the following week.

    The Pheu Thai-led coalition has about a month to assemble a Cabinet that is credible, effective and inspiring.

    Yingluck is bound for a rocky start if she picks her ministers based on political expediency.

    Political commentators concur that reconciliation is a top priority and that the country won't move forward unless political stability is achieved through fence-mending.

    How Yingluck chooses to fill Defence, Interior and Justice portfolios will be a litmus test of her leadership.

    Ministers in charge of the military, local administration and law enforcement will play a key role in determining whether efforts to bring about reconciliation fail or succeed.

    Last year's riots and bloodshed involved the military and the red shirts. The work of the Truth for Reconciliation Commission is expected to be completed next year and the findings to lay out the facts and not apportion blame.

    Yingluck and her ministers will have to thread their way, otherwise they might end up facing a revolt either from the barracks or the red shirts. The sought-after reconciliation, if mishandled, could backfire to inflict more harm on society.

    The reconciliation risk will increase by leaps and bounds if the amnesty issue, particularly pertaining to ousted prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra, is made part of the so-called "fence-mending" process.

    An out-of-turn amnesty for Thaksin will anger his opponents. Incomplete truth about the political violence may inflame rather than defuse the tension. But at the same time, key players may find it difficult to come to terms with the truth.

    Pheu Thai is poised to lead a five-party coalition of 299 of 500 votes in the House. Its controlling majority is, however, a secondary factor to ensure the government's survival.

    Yingluck's leadership will be a decisive factor for her success or downfall.

    If Yingluck could bypass partisanship in order to fill key positions with capable hands, then she may well be on the path of success in fostering political stability.

    Should she surround herself with the wrong crowd, she might find herself out of the job in mere months.

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    Yingluck Cabinet - 'No reds in new Cabinet'

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    'No reds in new Cabinet'
    'No reds in new Cabinet'
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    according to a party source.

    Yingluck herself has not ruled out the possibility.

    The Pheu Thai source implied
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    Yingluck,[...] said that she would wait for the official results to be announced by the Election Commission.

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    And the continues, business as usual eh John?

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    Yingluck's declaration yesterday

    Yingluck's declaration yesterday

    By The Nation
    Published on July 5, 2011

    Her "urgent missions"

    1. To push for national reconciliation by assigning the task to the Independent Truth Reconciliation Commission of Thailand with Dr Kanit Na Nakorn as its head and create another autonomous commission to look over legal matters;

    2. To honour HM the King on the event of his 84th birthday;

    3. To hasten economic recovery and boost living standards;

    4. To strengthen relations with neighbouring countries and promote regional unity.

    5. To boost the morale of civil servants since they play a significant role in the development of the country; they will be cooperating with the government in all regions.

    6. To bring forward public commitments made by the party campaign on July 1 at Rajamangala National stadium and propose them to other parties.

    7. Concerning the problem of corruption, there needs to be both vision and policies for its elimination, as well as a mechanism for accountability for public scrutiny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StrontiumDog
    There will be no red-shirt leaders in a new Cabinet to be headed by Pheu Thai Party's would-be prime minister Yingluck Shinawatra
    Translation: "Thanks very much for getting us back into power, now please fuck off back to your villages where you belong. Don't worry we'll be handing out scraps and treats now and again, but now we have to get back to the serious business of getting our money back."
    You, sir, are a God among men....
    Short Men, who aren't terribly bright....
    More like dwarves with learning disabilities....
    You are a God among Dwarves With Learning Disabilities.

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    No doubt the international community is quite perturbed that they won't have a colored shirt Foreign Minister to deal with.

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    anyway she has her chance, let's hope she doesn't fuck it up by bringing back her brother

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    In all fairness, all they have to do is omit the "red shirts" and they can continue the same policies without the unfortunate association of the color red.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerbil
    Translation: "Thanks very much for getting us back into power, now please fuck off back to your villages where you belong. Don't worry we'll be handing out scraps and treats now and again, but now we have to get back to the serious business of getting our money back."
    She's Chinese Thai and another example where the old man's master plan worked again.

    Brilliant minds these Shinawatra's and it's all so easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy
    Brilliant minds these Shinawatra's and it's all so easy
    they get quite some help, they are surrounded by retards

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    I think Khun Taksin will now return and "serve" a token sentance, maybe 1 year, but in a basically resort type "captivity"

    There, Done his time.

    This because there will be no amnesties for anyone.

    There are to many PAD dems and their supporters responsible for horrific acts of brutality, slaughter, murder, oppression, suppression, crimes against human rights and against humanity.
    They must be tried and convicted for their crimes.

    You cant argue with that

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    Quote Originally Posted by LooseBowels View Post
    I think Khun Taksin will now return and "serve" a token sentance, maybe 1 year, but in a basically resort type "captivity"

    There, Done his time.

    This because there will be no amnesties for anyone.
    I think there is more likely to be a "judicial review" which determines the convictions were politically motivated. Convictions quashed, no amnesty needed, Thaksin returns as Thailand's "saviour".

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    Quote LB

    I think Khun Taksin will now return and "serve" a token sentance, maybe 1 year, but in a basically resort type "captivity"


    Don't they do 'suspended sentences here??

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    Bangkok Post : Scramble for ministerial posts begins

    Scramble for ministerial posts begins

    Pheu Thai determined to control 5 core agencies

    Jockeying for ministerial positions and intense political bargaining are already under way from internal Pheu Thai factions and likely coalition partners.

    With 265 House seats, more than half of the total of 500, Pheu Thai has strong bargaining power with its coalition partners. The party wants to control at least five core ministries to ensure its policies are implemented as they were promised to people during the election campaign and to reinforce political stability and government security.

    The ministries are Interior, Defence, Finance, Foreign and Transport, the party source said.

    The source said factions in the party had tried to contact Yaowapa Wongsawat, sister of ousted prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra and wife of former prime minister Somchai Wongsawat. Mrs Yaowapa will screen the ministerial lists in consultation with Thaksin.

    It is reported that Thaksin wants Pheu Thai core member Chalerm Yubamrung as the House president but Mr Chalerm prefers to be Interior minister. Meanwhile, Pheu Thai's ally, the red shirt United Front for Democracy Against Dictatorship, supports Col Aphiwan Wiriyachai, who had been the House's vice-president, while the Northeast faction backs Somsak Kiatsuranon, a potential Khon Kaen MP and the former House president.

    The party's core executives want Pol Gen Pracha Promnok, whom Pheu Thai MPs backed against Democrat Party leader Abhisit Vejjajiva in the contest for prime minister in December 2008 as interior minister.

    The source said ACM Sumet Phomanee, the party deputy leader, has potential as defence minister. He was Thaksin's friend in Class 10 of the Armed Forces Academies Preparatory School and set in place security systems for Pheu Thai's top list candidate Yingluck Shinawatra, Thaksin's younger sister.

    ACM Sumet also has a good relationship with army chief-of-staff Dapong Rattanasuwan.

    However, former supreme commander Gen Mongkol Ampornpisit, one of Privy Council president Gen Prem Tinsulanonda's close aides who also has a good relationship with Thaksin, and Gen Yuthasak Sasiprapha, former deputy defence minister in the Thaksin administration are in the running.

    The party source said there were three possible candidates for the position of foreign minister. They are Pithaya Pookaman, a former Thai Ambassador, Torpong Chaiyasarn, former chairman of the parliament's foreign relations committee, and Jullapong Nonesrichai, Thailand's Ambassador to Norway.

    However, the name of the party's former commerce minister Mingkwan Saengsuwan has also been raised for the post.

    Foreign Ministry sources said they preferred Mr Jullapong to the other two candidates as the next foreign minister because he is a career diplomat. He will retire in September.

    Former deputy prime minister Olarn Chaipravat, one of party's economic team heads, is expected to be put forward as finance minister or deputy prime minister overseeing economic affairs.

    Supavud Saicheua, the managing director of Phatra Securities, and former finance minister Suchart Thada-Thamrongvech, another head of the Pheu Thai economic team, are also potential candidates for finance minister.

    Party leader Yongyuth Wichaidit is expected to serve in the position of deputy prime minister.

    Khunying Sudarat Keyuraphan, a former key member of Thai Rak Thai, is pushing Anudit Nakornthap in her Bangkok faction as either social development or public health minister.

    It has been reported Thaksin will put forward Niwatthamrong Boonsongpaisal, former head of iTV, a now-defunct news channel once under the Shin Group, as a Prime Minister's Office minister overseeing state media affairs.

    Plodprasop Suraswadi is a potential candidate for the Ministry of Natural Resources and Environment as he was former permanent secretary at the ministry.

    Many highly placed sources in the ministry believe Mr Plodprasop is likely to win the position amid speculation that a lot of official transfers will be made shortly after the new cabinet is established.

    Meanwhile, Chartthaipattana Party which has been invited to be a coalition partner is reportedly bargaining for ministerial positions at the Education and Commerce ministries and a deputy minister for finance.

    However, Thaksin is reported to want Wattana Muangsuk, a former commerce minister in the Thai Rak Thai administration to become commerce minister and Santi Prompat, former transport minister in the Samak Sundaravej government, as transport minister.

    Phalang Chon Party, another potential coalition member, is bargaining for the top post at the Tourism and Sports Ministry and for another deputy ministerial position.

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    Thaksin is going to want to continue a high-level political career and as such will want a squeaky clean criminal record.

    I am sure a few eminent judges can be found who agree his convictions should be quashed in exchange for a lunchbox full of cash.

    This is clearly how life is going to proceed in Thailand now.
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    I cannot see Thaksin returning to Thailand until after the inevitable, unspeakable happens.

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    "Yingluck Cabinet - 'No reds in new Cabinet'"

    Wishful thinking by the Amart.

    So what about the ongoing role of the "Red Shirt democracy Movement", other than its' July 10th. Victory Rally.

    I posed this question to someone in the know on these matters.

    Her answer: "To support and protect this Government, from those who would once again, try to steal it"

    And we can all speculate who they are.

    The next coup will not be a freebie like the last one.

    And non-electorally based sources better think twice about meddling. If this Government is forced to do things out-of-character, there will be consequences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    I cannot see Thaksin returning to Thailand until after the inevitable, unspeakable happens.
    Given that they desperately wanted him out of before that happened, something else unspeakable (despite it being spoken of pretty openly) might have to happen first. Otherwise it's back to square one circa 2006. I hope that's sufficiently cryptic.

    Hard to say if the no reds in the cabinet rumor will prove true. The Shinawatras probably think they can get away with throwing the huddled masses of Isaan and elsewhere a bone once in a while. They might be right, but if not it will be interesting to see which side turns out to be made up of "useful idiots." The thing about arrogant pricks like the Shinawatras is they always overstep. Having got away with doing so once probably makes him more likely to do so again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robuzo
    Hard to say if the no reds in the cabinet rumor will prove true. The Shinawatras probably think they can get away with throwing the huddled masses of Isaan and elsewhere a bone once in a while. They might be right, but if not it will be interesting to see which side turns out to be made up of "useful idiots." The thing about arrogant pricks like the Shinawatras is they always overstep. Having got away with doing so once probably makes him more likely to do so again.
    I could agree with much of that.

    I certainly don't think the PT are democratic freedom fighters; they will put pragmatic politics well before caste toppling efforts... Thus the continuing Na Nakorn committee (or whatever they wanna call it) will bring forward some results, but not significant game changing, put the army general, CC and Suthep in prison, type results... I doubt there will be any admission of guilt on the army's part; maybe Suthep and Abhisit would be mildly criticized, maybe...

    Firstly, the Kwai vote has been heard, that's a start. Next, policies and a social environment where the standard folk have a chance of upward mobilty, a period where the middle classes can grow (where Bkk isn't manipulated by dems/army/bluebloods) becomes possible; education policies which don't attempt to drag education downwards can be changed to pre-coup types where people do have a chance; non-stop propaganda from certain ministries can be stopped; army projects around the nation, that are nothing but propaganda aimed at keeping the poor in their place, can be stopped. So PT straight away offer far more to the masses than the dems/army/bluebloods have done since the coup.

    MrT is Mt. Y is Y. I think you might well get a shock, she is smarter than you give her credit for; she has done better in two month than super IQ'd Mr smartypants Abhisit did in the last 6 years... Don't confuse her for a pure clone; she is more than that. I hope she proves this quickly and effectively. Thaksin and Abhisit both proved to be false dawns of hope. Give this woman her chance, she can't do worse and she may well do better. She is growing in confidence day by day, and to me, looks like she may become the real deal (I am ready to eat my words here...).

    If there are no reds in the cabinet then that's a smart move. One that Abhisit was unable/unwilling to make and it always gave him problems. We will see.

    Thaksin is important symbolically. But, if PT and Y especially can move away from being his party, and the Thai analysts accept that they have the experience and know how to be a strong government, and develop strong policies, work hard at govenance and focus on the problems of the nation rather than the divisive politics that the dems used everyday of their tenure, then things are looking up.

    Reconcilliation and strong leadership (governance) must be foremost. Gerbil will make some smart quip, but Gerbil is a fool...

    The people who supported PT/reds must be suppported in return, economically and respected as people (rather than cattle, as per Abhisit/army/bluebloods), but so must the people who supported the dems and other parties. The dems only ever looked after their group. Y must look after the entire nation, enable her voting base to grow from every corner of the nation, and in this way reduce the power of the army/bluebloods. So far, this is exactly what she has signalled...
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    Quote Originally Posted by StrontiumDog
    such as issuing credit cards for farmers.
    Interesting policy, I can assure you I would bring my bank on board with that one (if I had a bank)

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    Quote Originally Posted by LooseBowels View Post
    I think Khun Taksin will now return and "serve" a token sentance, maybe 1 year, but in a basically resort type "captivity"

    There, Done his time.

    This because there will be no amnesties for anyone.

    There are to many PAD dems and their supporters responsible for horrific acts of brutality, slaughter, murder, oppression, suppression, crimes against human rights and against humanity.
    They must be tried and convicted for their crimes.

    You cant argue with that
    Gotta love a troll for trying.

    Thaksin would never suffer the humiliation of jail time or even a criminal record. The conviction will be quashed.

    All colors are guilty of horrific acts and have been for decades, as in the past, deals will be struck, nobody will be officially held responsible.

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    Jockeying starts for posts in new Thai govt - Yahoo! News

    Jockeying starts for posts in new Thai govt


    By Michael Perry | Reuters – 1 hour 20 minutes ago


    Prime Minister-elect Yingluck Shinawatra of the Puea Thai Party addresses reporters …

    BANGKOK (Reuters) - Jockeying for ministerial posts in Thailand's new government began on Tuesday as Prime Minister-elect Yingluck Shinawatra seeks to deliver on billions of dollars of populist campaign promises that critics say will fuel inflation.

    Yingluck, a political novice, must also pacify critics who fear a return of her divisive brother, Thaksin, after their Puea Thai Party won a landslide victory in Sunday's election.

    A cabinet dominated by pro-Thaksin ministers would fuel such concerns and weaken Yingluck's calls for reconciliation after six years of political crisis.

    The traditional scramble by coalition partners for cabinet jobs, known as "the stampede to snatch the rice bowls", had begun, Bangkok newspapers said on Tuesday.

    "No Reds in new cabinet" was the front page headline in the Nation, referring to the pro-Thaksin "red shirts", who clashed with the military in Bangkok in 2010, leaving 91 people dead.

    The Bangkok Post said Thaksin, now living in self-imposed exile in Dubai, may personally vet cabinet positions, and that moves were afoot for his return, but that it would not be rushed and may take a few years.

    Thailand's powerful military has said it will accept the election result, adding to a new sense of stability in a country plagued by unrest since the army staged a 2006 coup to oust then Prime Minister Thaksin.

    But many believe that while there may be short-term stability, the medium to longer term remains uncertain, especially if the new government issues a general amnesty allowing Thaksin to return home.

    Puea Thai won an estimated 264 seats in the 500-seat parliament and could govern alone, but Yingluck, who will be Thailand's first female prime minister, has said she would form a five-party coalition controlling 299 seats.

    "Having a coalition rather than going it all alone may be the most astute political move at this juncture," said Wellian Wiranto, an economist for HSBC in Singapore.

    "By having the other parties join her, Yingluck will be projecting an image that she has broad support in the parliament."

    But Wiranto added: "Yingluck is a political novice. Hence, the attention will shift quickly to her choice of economic team and policies."

    Puea Thai would keep the key portfolios of defence, foreign affairs, interior, transport and agriculture, and Yingluck, a successful businesswoman, could oversee economic ministries, local media said.

    Under Thailand's constitution, the new government could take weeks to be formed and then has to be approved by the king.

    INFLATION WORRIES

    Sunday's vote is a strong rebuke to the traditional establishment of generals, "old money" families and royal advisers who backed outgoing Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva. It suggests broad support for policies championed by Thaksin, who was elected prime minister twice, in 2001 and 2005.

    Yingluck plans to roll out a long list of Thaksin-style populist programmes that could fuel public spending and inflation in Southeast Asia's second-largest economy -- from subway extensions to big wage increases and giveaways aimed at boosting spending power, especially in rural areas.

    Economists said the policies may force the Bank of Thailand to raise interest rates more than expected to control inflation, already getting worryingly high.

    The Bank of Thailand's benchmark interest rate will rise to 3.75 percent by the end of the year, according to a Reuters poll of economists, many of whom have raised their forecast since Sunday's general election.

    A burst of spending could weaken Thailand's fiscal position, depending on how it is implemented, Takahira Ogawa, an analyst at credit rating agency Standard & Poor's Corp told Reuters.

    Supporters say Thaksin revolutionised Thai politics with pro-business reforms and populist policies aimed at eradicating poverty. Critics accuse him of authoritarianism, crony capitalism and undermining Thailand's revered monarchy.

    Thaksin says he does not want to be prime minister again and is not trying to reclaim $1.4 billion of assets seized when a Thai court found he had tailored government policies to benefit his family business interests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calgary View Post
    "Yingluck Cabinet - 'No reds in new Cabinet'"

    Wishful thinking by the Amart.
    Well in this case by the Nation.

    Of course Phue Thai will not forget those who supported them.

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    Jatuporn et al are hardly senior enough to be Cabinet Ministers yet, but I would think some will be eligible for junior portfolio's.

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