Thais Vote: Election Day 2011 - The General Poll and Results - Free and Fair?

**SteveCM** · 06-10-2011, 01:01 PM

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If that's what gets you through your day.....

Originally Posted by NM

As in every poll since 2001, the voting has a strong regional pattern. In the upper north and most of the northeast, Pheu Thai not only swept all the seats but won huge majorities. Pheu Thai also did well on the outskirts of the capital. This is the same as in 2007. They did better than 2007 in the central region.

**SteveCM** · 06-10-2011, 01:38 PM

From the blog world.....

Analysis of the 2011 Thai Election – Part 4: Constituency Vote | Asian Correspondent

By Bangkok Pundit
Oct 06, 2011

This is the fourth post in a multi-part series of posts on the July 3, 2011 Thai general election. The first post looked at the nationwide party-list vote totals for each of the political parties. The second post analyzed the party-list by the different regions for each of the parties. The third post compared the party-list vote of each of the parties for the 2007 and 2011 general elections.

This post will look at the constituency vote for the 2011 general election, but also compare with the 2007 general election.

First, the 2007 general election. Nationwide:

Source: Based on a spreadsheet downloaded from the ECT in this ZIP file. BP has uploaded a spreadsheet of the page here.*

Second, the 2011 general election:

Source for 2011 general election statistics is this PDF file.

BP: Okay, it is clear that Puea Thai did much better than PPP (the previous pro-Thaksin party) going from 36.83% to 44.94%, but the Democrats also increased their vote total from 30.21% to 31.92%. It was that votes for third parties dropped significantly from 32.96% to 23.14%. Thailand is moving more and more to a two-party system. For the Democrats, that is bad news because they are unable to win a majority on their own. They need stronger third parties to win seats of Puea Thai in various constituencies throughout the country.

BP: Visually, this shows you what happened with the collapse of the third party vote being most noticeable in the Central, North and Northeast regions.

NOTE: Thanks to Chris Baker for providing his spreadsheet data. Idea for the chart also shamelessly borrowed from Chris as well.

*At the 2007 general election, voters could vote for 2 or 3 candidates (depending on which constituency they lived in) so overall there were 72 million votes cast.

**Tom Sawyer** · 06-10-2011, 10:04 PM

Has anyone found a list (in English) of the names of all the elected MPs, their constituencies and their party affiliations? I haven't been able to find one. Thanks if you can post a link. BP - maybe that's your next assignment.. Why? Because let's examine the family names.

**SteveCM** · 06-10-2011, 10:36 PM

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Try Human Resource

Constituencies not mentioned - nor list vs constituency MP separation.

**Thaihome** · 07-10-2011, 12:56 PM

We finally got the all vote totals and here's a summary

TH

**SteveCM** · 07-10-2011, 01:12 PM

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Not to even mention the 25-ish% of eligibles who didn't vote at all.

Crikey, chaps - it's almost a dictatorship.....

**sabang** · 07-10-2011, 02:13 PM

^^ There is also the 'not so small' matter of 2mm spoiled votes, and 1.4mm vote 'No's, which reduces the total number of votes cast by almost 10%- to 31,760,968. You have conveniently lumped these in with 'did not vote for PT'. They did not vote for anybody. Did you serve an apprenticeship with Fox News?

**Butterfly** · 07-10-2011, 02:44 PM

so PTP is a popular minority after all ? make sense for a fascist group,

**Thaihome** · 07-10-2011, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by sabang

^^ There is also the 'not so small' matter of 2mm spoiled votes, and 1.4mm vote 'No's, which reduces the total number of votes cast by almost 10%- to 31,760,968. You have conveniently lumped these in with 'did not vote for PT'. They did not vote for anybody. Did you serve an apprenticeship with Fox News?

I will agree that for the spolied votes we don't know who they voted for, but the "no" votes for sure did not vote for PTP. Makes the percentage somewhere just above 45% that voted for PT.

TH

**Bettyboo** · 07-10-2011, 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by Thaihome

but the "no" votes for sure did not vote for PTP

Or any other political party.

You are a deluded nest of misinformation, TH...

**Pol the Pot** · 07-10-2011, 04:29 PM

PT is the biggest party. And they have a majority in parliament. That's proportional election for you.

They'd have had the majority in a majority election as well.

**Takeovers** · 07-10-2011, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by Thaihome

Makes the percentage somewhere just above 45% that voted for PT.

What was the highest percentage of the vote for any British PM in the last 40 years?

I am quite sure, none of them came to 45%.

**Tom Sawyer** · 08-10-2011, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by SteveCM

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Try Human Resource

Constituencies not mentioned - nor list vs constituency MP separation.

Thanks!

**SteveCM** · 08-10-2011, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by Takeovers

Originally Posted by Thaihome

Makes the percentage somewhere just above 45% that voted for PT.

What was the highest percentage of the vote for any British PM in the last 40 years?

I am quite sure, none of them came to 45%.

Fairly sure you're right - it's almost a given with First-Past-The-Post (FPTP) and a 3-party (OK, 2.5-party) system combined.

...
In the 1997 election, the victorious Labour Party gained 43.2% of the total votes cast and won 63.6% of seats at Westminster. The combined number of votes for the Tory and Liberal Democrats represented 47.5% of the total votes (nearly 4% more than Labour) yet between them they got 32.1% of the seats available at Westminster.

In the 2001 election, Labour got 43% of the total popular vote whereas all the other parties got 57% - yet Labour maintained its very powerful position in Parliament with 413 MP's out of 659. The same trend was seen with the 2005 election result.

It can be claimed that such a percentage of votes should not have given Labour such large Parliamentary majorities – but the workings of the FPTP system allows for just such an occurrence. In fact, no government since 1935 has had a majority of public support as expressed through votes cast at a national election.
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