Thread: Britain to crackdown on UK child-abuse offenders in Thailand

Children need to be empowered, with stakeholders working closing together and being vigilant in order to tackle the issue of child-sex offenders, Peter Davies, CEO of the London-based Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre (CEOP), said.

Davies, and his colleague Tim Gerrish, were in Bangkok earlier this week to exchange views with the Thai police and the Department of Special Investigation (DSI) - a sign that the British government was taking the issue of child-sex offences by UK nationals seriously.

The two also visited Vietnam and Cambodia, the other two top destinations for British child-sex offenders after Thailand.

Gerrish said his government had more than 30,000 paedophiles and child-sex offenders on its watchlist, and had enlisted some 50,000 volunteers to disseminate useful information and preventive advice, which has reached up to 7 million people so far.

Both explained that their visit to Thailand and work with related agencies here shows how important issue is for the UK government.

"The message is that the UK is not a nation of sex offenders, and is prepared to tackle this issue," Gerrish said. Last October, Gerrish was in Thailand to help run a training session for 125 teachers from public and private schools.

Davies explained that it was crucial to teach children to look after themselves in both online and offline environments. The United Kingdom has introduced educational products such as five to 10-minute video clips that can be used in school to help raise children's awareness. CEOP is considering if similar products might be useful in Thai schools as well.

He said the problem of child-sex offences would have to be addressed both in Thailand and in the UK. "Some of that is about education and some of that is about social issues, which can take a long time to tackle," he said.

Davies added that while those caught for drug trafficking in Thailand were almost always denied bail, child-sex offence cases were treated more leniently.

When asked to compare the severity of the situation in Thailand vis-?-vis other nations, both Davies and Gerrish said such comparisons were unhelpful.

"We will not look for hot spots because it limits our work," Gerrish said, adding that the centre might "miss what is going on elsewhere"

as a result. Though CEOP has contacts in South American and Eastern European nations, Davies insisted that "statistics tell us very little".

"It so happens that Southeast Asia is the first continent where we have work. Anywhere in the world, where there are UK nationals, it's a place of our concern," Davies, who was formerly a police officer in Oxfordshire, said. He also highlighted the fact that in many cases, child-sex offenders were members of the family, which made it difficult for it to be reported to the police.

As for online exploitation, Davies said websites displaying sex-crimes against children were often blocked and persons behind them were prosecuted. He said that just five years ago, people could make a lot of money selling such images, but now offenders are selling access to images of child abuse instead. Paedophiles are also sharing such images through smart phones, though the UK authorities have had some success in making arrests, Davies said.

"The distinction between online and offline [abuse] is not so great," he said, adding that more thought was needed in caring for victims in terms of rehabilitation and recovery. He also said that media coverage of high-profile arrests could work as a deterrent

when these so called sick twats get caught in thailand dont send send them back to the uk so they can serve their sentance [if any] in 4star acc.let them have a taste of 20years in a thai jail.

Originally Posted by Sailing into trouble

every little helps.

Do you work for Tesco's?

Originally Posted by Sailing into trouble

Every country has its share of pedophiles, often abuse victims themselves. But I have never seen it so much out in the open as in Thailand. Maybe international pressure and action in their home countries can help to rid this blight. After all the reason these predators come to Thailand because it has become more difficult in their home countries.

Guess every little helps.

They come here because underage kids are provided (in Pattaya, anyway) by clubs / bars directly operated and owned by Thai Police. Who will occasionally serve up a "customer" to foreign NGO's to achieve their quotas.

Originally Posted by FarangRed

When asked to compare the severity of the situation in Thailand vis-?-vis other nations, both Davies and Gerrish said such comparisons were unhelpful.

"We will not look for hot spots because it limits our work," Gerrish said, adding that the centre might "miss what is going on elsewhere"

Oh no don't go looking in the right places whatever you do

Could having your shoes cleaned by a 10 year old Cambodian kid be classed as child abuse?
Interesting question.

Child abuse is endemic in every society whether it be sexual, social or as in many third world and emerging countries it is exploitative of their labour.
Every society needs to address these issues but can only do so within a framework where there is a respect for the rule of law and an appetite for retribution irrespective of the status of those who abuse.

CEOP is an organisation that will shortly be wound up and absorbed into the new National Crime Agency despite desperate attempts by their staff to justify its independence. It is expensive to run and in the context of world wide abuse it is largely ineffectual and ultimately redundant. In a country where child abuse was rampant among state institutions and those run by the Catholic Church one has to consider why CEOP assumed a mandate taking themselves out of the UK, where there is more than enough work for them to engage their resources, to parts of the world where their jurisdiction is questionable to say the least.

In this instance traipsing around S.E. Asia is the default venue for any such organisation fighting for its administrative survival,wishing to raise its profile and to have a nice all expenses paid jaunt to boot. Listening to their facile rhetoric of ' child empowerment ' might be de rigueur among the social services industry of the benefit ridden West but here in the impoverished real world it rings paricularly hollow.

This visit by CEOP has more to do with persuading a sceptical Home Secretary of their doubtful worth rather than anything else more realistic. And they do get to spend the remainder of their travel budget which expires shortly.

Originally Posted by kmart

Originally Posted by Sailing into trouble

Every country has its share of pedophiles, often abuse victims themselves. But I have never seen it so much out in the open as in Thailand. Maybe international pressure and action in their home countries can help to rid this blight. After all the reason these predators come to Thailand because it has become more difficult in their home countries.

Guess every little helps.

They come here because underage kids are provided (in Pattaya, anyway) by clubs / bars directly operated and owned by Thai Police. Who will occasionally serve up a "customer" to foreign NGO's to achieve their quotas.

In August saw a 60+ white guy playing in the surf with a 11 to 13 year old thai boy. Obviously not in the way a friendly uncle would! So I marched up with my mrs to a couple of cops on the road by Karon beech. My wife explained to them what was happening. Didn't bat an eye. Put their sunglasses back on and drove off.

I marched down into the water confronted the guy told him I had called the police who were on their way down. He swore at me in Russian, I think, and left swearing at me. The kid actually followed him up the beach with him telling him to go away.

Children are seen as a resource by many uneducated Thai parents. Children are seen as a source of money by most Thai policemen. Children are expected to obey without question requests from older people. Farang pedos didn't create this pedo heaven but they sure as hell create demand. It won't end until Thai people learn basic ideas of morality.

Originally Posted by FarangRed

Britain to crackdown on UK child-abuse offenders in Thailand Children need to be empowered, with stakeholders working closing together and being vigilant in order to tackle the issue of child-sex offenders, Peter Davies, CEO of the London-based Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre (CEOP), said.

i read it all and cannot see how peter davis , no doubt well paid . coming to Thailand for free holiday, constitutes a crackdown on uk sex offenders .

Originally Posted by blue

Originally Posted by FarangRed

Britain to crackdown on UK child-abuse offenders in Thailand Children need to be empowered, with stakeholders working closing together and being vigilant in order to tackle the issue of child-sex offenders, Peter Davies, CEO of the London-based Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre (CEOP), said.

i read it all and cannot see how peter davis , no doubt well paid . coming to Thailand for free holiday, constitutes a crackdown on uk sex offenders .

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