Thread: Thai and Cambodian troops clash

the date of the story is 24 Jan?

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Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

on Sunday

opps

Yes, bit it happened this afternoon?

http://www.tannetwork.tv/tan/ViewData.aspx?DataID=1040410

Fighting Breaks out at Thai-Cambodian Border

UPDATE : 4 February 2011

Reports have come in about fighting at the Thai-Cambodian border near Preah Vihear Temple in Kantaraluck district, Si Sa Ket province.

Reports said 10 Cambodian mortar shells have landed on Thai soil.

The Thai media has reported that gunfire was heard at the border but officials refuse to confirm whether fighting has broken out. Still, locals living along the border have been evacuated.


[at]NationChannel24: 2nd Army chief confirms clash btw Thai, Cambodian troops starting around 3 pm. Awaiting for info

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Army spokesman Col Sansern confirmed on [at]nationtv that clashes have occurred at the Thai-Cambodian border between troops

This really is a nothing situation on both sides that the Thais (PAD mostly) have been trying for many months to blow up into a war... Idiots (notice that they won't be involved in the fighting or live in the areas to be affected)...

Let's hope that this is just a small incident which blows over.

The PADites and some generals will be hoping it gets worse, of course...

http://asia.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/2011...medium=twitter

Thai, Cambodian troops clash near disputed territory


Reuters - 31 minutes ago

BANGKOK - Thai and Cambodian soldiers exchanged fire on a disputed stretch of their border on Friday, a Thai military official said, the latest flare-up in an ancient feud over territory surrounding a 900-year-old Hindu temple.

A Thai regional commander in the area, Lieutenant General Thawatchai Samutsakorn, said there was a skirmish. "There are no reports of injuries at this point," he told Reuters.

A Thai army source said clashes began at about 3 p.m. and were still going on. "There is sporadic shelling but details are very sketchy at this point," he said.

Both sides have clashed before in disputed territory around the Preah Vihear temple claimed by both Southeast Asian countries.

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

This really is a nothing situation on both sides that the Thais (PAD mostly) have been trying for many months to blow up into a war... Idiots (notice that they won't be involved in the fighting or live in the areas to be affected)...

Let's hope that this is just a small incident which blows over.

The PADites and some generals will be hoping it gets worse, of course...

Part of the plan? Crisis looms....election averted? Military actually does something that involves not killing its own citizens, but somebody else's instead? Hey, it's better than a coup...not much, but....

terryfrd Terry Fredrickson

CH3 reporter on scene says clash began about 3pm and is still continuing at this moment.

meanwhile .............

Cambodia, Thai FMs pledge to avoid border clashes, push more bilateral cooperation
February 04, 2011

Cambodia and Thailand foreign ministers on Friday pledged to avoid military clashes along the border and vowed to strengthen bilateral cooperation on all fields.

After the 7th meeting of the Joint Commission held in Siem Reap province, both Hor Namhong, deputy prime minister and minister of foreign affairs of Cambodia and Kasit Piromya, his Thai counterpart pledged that both countries had agreed to push more cooperation including tourism, labor and border issues.

Meanwhile, Hor Namhong said that although the two countries have build up military forces along in recent weeks, it's unlikely that military clashes could happen.

During the half-day plenary session of the 7th JC, the two sides discussed many topics of common interests including a push for single visa to two countries and later among the five countries as in the regional grouping of Ayeyawady-Chay Praoya- Mekong-Economics Cooperation Strategy (ACMECS), Cambodian laborers working in Thailand, demining along the border and examination of border marks in order to end misunderstanding on the disputed borderline.

On this border issue, Hor Namhong said the two sides have agreed that the border meeting between the two countries' specialized committee will soon be conducted, but no exact date is given.

On the same topic, Kasit Piromya was suggesting joint-sky topography on the border marks be surveyed.

As of now, 33 out of 73 border marks along 803 kilometers border lines between the two nations have been found.

Following the information on the military confrontation at the border, both Hor Namhong and Kasit affirmed that it is important to avoid any kind of military clash between the two sides.

And in response to Thai demand for removing a Cambodian flag at Keo Sikha Kiri Svarak Pagoda near Cambodia's Preah Vihear Temple, Hor Namhong said Cambodia had made it clear to his counterpart that the flag will not be removed, saying it is raised only " inside Cambodian territory".

Kasit who arrived in Cambodia on Thursday for the JC, is scheduled to come over to Phnom Penh to meet with two detained Thais activists who were convicted Tuesday to eight and six years in jail for illegal entry, trespass into military zone and espionage.

The two were arrested in Cambodia's Banteay Meanch Province on Dec. 29, 2010.

Source: Xinhua

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^^^ the army/PAD are stupid enough, but who knows; they are all lunatics...

It is almost certain that things will get a lot worse in Thailand before getting better, mostly because of an upcoming event that a tiny group want and the 60Million or so don't... All these sideshows will be nothing to the potential trouble.

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Army spokesman Col Sansern confirmed on [at]nationtv that clashes have occurred at the Thai-Cambodian border between troops, authorities trying to contain situation and end clash as both sides claimed the other fired first, clashes still ongoing

terryfrd Terry Fredrickson

CH 3 reporter says he can hear fighting very clearly w. artillery and smaller weapons being used.

CH3: This is the 3rd time there has been fighting in area in past 4 years. Previous incidents resulted in 7 deaths on each side

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An estimated 20 shells landed on Thailand's side of the border in Kantalarak district in Si Sa Ket province, 350 kilometres east of Bangkok, Thai radio reports said.

'We can confirm that there has been a clash, but we are still checking the details,' army spokesman Colonel Sansern Keowkhamnerd said.

The army was reportedly bulldozing a road in the border area, which has been the subject of numerous spats over the past two and a half years.

Cambodia fires shells in disputed border area with Thailand (Extra) - Monsters and Critics

Originally Posted by Mid

The army was reportedly bulldozing a road in the border area

The Thais seem to start every single one of these 'incidents'...

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/poli...mbodian-border

Thais wounded, border fighting continues

• Published: 4/02/2011 at 04:39 PM
• Online news:

Two or three Thai soldiers were wounded in fighting with Cambodian troops on Friday afternoon near the 4.6 square kilometre area under dispute near Preah Vihear temple. The Cambodians had fired artillery shells which landed on Thai soil, an informed military source said.

The clash took place about 3.20pm and fighting was continuing around the Preah Vihear temple area.

Lt-Gen Tawatchai Samutsakhon, 2nd Army commander, said Cambodian troops who started the fight.

Many artillery rounds landed at Huay Thip village in tambon Rung of Si Sa Ket's Kanthararak district, north of the Preah Vihear temple and about 1km from Phu Makhua mountain, which is part of the disputed area.

Two or three Thai soldiers were reported wounded. Casualties on the Cambodian side were not known.

^^ And isn't the timing just peachy...big PAD rally tomorrow as well, reports of busloads of them coming in to Bangkok today.

It's almost....almost...like it was all planned.....

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

Lt-Gen Tawatchai Samutsakhon, 2nd Army commander, said Cambodian troops who started the fight.

Hardly news since it would be a cold day in hell before he said the Thai's started it .

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/0...7131K220110204

Thai and Cambodian troops clash near disputed territory

By Ambika Ahuja
BANGKOK | Fri Feb 4, 2011 9:31am GMT

BANGKOK (Reuters) - Thai and Cambodian soldiers exchanged fire on a disputed stretch of their border Friday, a Thai military official said, the latest flare-up in an ancient feud over territory surrounding a 900-year-old Hindu temple.

Shelling began at about 3 p.m. (0800 GMT) and was still going on more than an hour later, military officials and witnesses said. "There is sporadic shelling but details are very sketchy at this point," said a Thai army official.

A Thai regional commander in the area, Lieutenant General Thawatchai Samutsakorn, said no injuries had been reported.

The Southeast Asian neighbours have clashed before over the 11th century temple, known as Preah Vihear in Cambodia and Khao Phra Viharn in Thailand. It sits on an escarpment that forms a natural border and has been a source of tension for generations.

The International Court of Justice awarded it to Cambodia in 1962 but the ruling did not determine the ownership of 1.8 square miles (4.6 sq km) of scrub next to the ruins, leaving considerable scope for disagreement.

The clash comes three days after a Cambodian court handed down jail terms of eight and six years to two Thai nationalists who were found guilty of trespass and spying in the border region, a verdict that has angered some in Thailand.

A small but prolonged protest by Thailand's "yellow shirt" activists has put pressure on Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva to take a tougher line in the long-running dispute.

Adding to the tensions, the pro-establishment yellow shirts accuse their bitter foe, ousted former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra, of colluding with Cambodia to Thailand's detriment.

Cambodian Prime Minister Hun Sen has also used age-old rivalry with Thailand for his own political ends.

(Reporting by Ambika Ahuja; Writing by Jason Szep; Editing by Alan Raybould)

Friday, February 04, 2011

Clash in Sambok Khmum area

04 Feb 2011

Cambodia Express News

Translated from Khmer by Soch

Preah Vihear – Armed clash took place in the Sambok Khmum area, near Preah Vihear temple, at 3PM on 04 February. A source from Preah Vihear indicated that the exchange of armed fire includes both small and heavy weapons and black smoke clouds fill the sky.

There is no information in the outcome or the cause of this clash, but a source claimed that the clash was initiated by Thailand because they use heavy equipments to clear a road to enter Sambok Khmum, then Cambodia tried to stop them, but the Thai refused to listen and continued to clear the road coming to Cambodia. Finally the Thai troops shot at the Cambodian soldiers to threaten them, and Cambodia used its rights to defend itself.

The clash is taking place while Kasit Piromya, the Thai minister of Foreign Affairs, is visiting Phnom Penh and the two Thai border trespassers in Prey Sar jail.

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#Channel 5: Col Sansern confirmed Thai troops detained by Cambodia

Kasit best extend his reservation ............................

terryfrd Terry Fredrickson


Thai PBS reporter was reporting from a village abt 2 minutes ago when a series of suspected artillery shells hit abt 70 m. away. Loud!

A second reporter is reporting many more shells. Villagers in six villages still in shelters. Haven't been able to evacuate yet.

That was local official, not a reporter, and he asked to cut off because shells were still coming in.

Thai PBS reports from Cambodia that local TV said Thai soldiers had entered Cambodia at several points. Some Thais captured, report said.

Thai PBS news chief says part of problem is that 2 sides have different maps, making claims of "invasion" suspect.

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TR [at]jin_nation: Cambodian media, quoted by tvThai, said 5 Thai troops were arrested and 2 tanks damaged.

[at]NationChannel24: 5.29 pm Gunfire still heard at the Thai-Cambodian border area in Si Sa Ket.


AFP: Thai troops clash w/ Cambodian continuously since around 3pm. (via [at]Neaw_NBC)

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