Thread: Aussie protester claims he was beaten in Thai prison

Terry you were going great guns with words like

Originally Posted by terry57

intricacies

Originally Posted by terry57

ramification

and I was into your post

Until...you wrote...

Originally Posted by terry57

This guy is no hero, he's just a fool who could not resist the temptation to keep his opinions to himself.

Now mate I undertstand your an Aussie but for Christ's sake mate edit the fucking sentence please! Dare I say it...it's crap English!

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Bullshit Rodney, Foking TEFLERS like you are always on some bastards case.

Anyway mate,

Don't spend your 10,000 baht monthly salary on hookers this month OK , you need to spend some money getting yourself and your fukwittery posts out of MKP.

Originally Posted by terry57

Bullshit Rodney, Foking TEFLERS like you are always on some bastards case.

I was only trying to help and in doing so make a constructive criticism, so sorry if I touched a nerve old boy!

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Foking hell Rodney. I dont have any nerves as I've been on this forum way longer than you and parlayed with the best of them.

Lighten up you silly old fuk.

No offense like.

Originally Posted by The Bold Rodney

Terry you were going great guns with words like

Originally Posted by terry57

intricacies

Originally Posted by terry57

ramification

and I was into your post

Until...you wrote...

Originally Posted by terry57

This guy is no hero, he's just a fool who could not resist the temptation to keep his opinions to himself.

Now mate I undertstand your an Aussie but for Christ's sake mate edit the fucking sentence please! Dare I say it...it's crap English!

ye you need to learn how to spell ' you're'.

Originally Posted by terry57

What ever he thinks he still needs to respect the country he chooses to be in in, If he cant do that just stay in Australia.

....couldn't put it better....a very Australian point of view.

Keep the disrespect at home.......

Ah respect indeed.
and the racism spouted here is just unbelievable.
at least he highlighted the violence.
two months before bloody sunday 12 unarmed citizens were shot dead by the para's in Belfast,,, yes the same lot responsible for BS and that was hushed up.
think there was a mother of 8 kids in there as well.
goverments get away with murder and if anyone speaks up ,den good on them.

Originally Posted by baby maker

Originally Posted by terry57

What ever he thinks he still needs to respect the country he chooses to be in in, If he cant do that just stay in Australia.

....couldn't put it better....a very Australian point of view.

Keep the disrespect at home.......

It's one thing to have hostility for the country you were born in, but quite another to chose a country, ask to live there and then express hostility towards it. I worked in America for 35 years, paid an incredible amount of taxes and watched it turn against people like me, and I don't mind talking about it. Here, even if I do not like something, I keep my mouth shut since I'm a guest who is here by my choice and their consent.

Opinion

Aussie red shirt was not mistreated in prison
10/11/2010

The report headlined ''Aussie red shirt says he was beaten in jail'' (Bangkok Post, Sept 9, 2010) contained factual errors which could cause public misunderstanding and tarnish the reputation of the Department of Corrections.

First, the claim that Conor Purcell was attacked by seven other prisoners in an ''ordered assault'' in Bangkok Remand Prison was actually only a minor quarrel. The fact is that Mr Purcell was attacked by two other prisoners because during the daily count he had caused a disturbance with his rude manners, resulting in the attack. Prison authorities investigated the matter and disciplined all three prisoners by denying them visitation rights for one month.

Second is the allegation that Bangkok Remand Prison refused medical attention for Mr Purcell for almost two weeks after the attack. The prison conforms to the standard minimum rules regarding medical treatment for prisoners by treating all inmates equally and free of charge. In the case of Mr Purcell, he requested to meet the medical officer on May 27.

But on May 26 he was moved to new accommodation for security reasons. Later on May 27, he refused to meet with the medical staff. It was assumed he needed to adjust himself to his new environment. He had his first contact with medical staff on May 31, following the long official holiday (May 28-30 on the occasion of Visakha Bucha).

Then Mr Purcell was transferred to the Medical Correctional Institution for further treatment.

Third, Mr Purcell claims he was kept in a cell with almost 40 prisoners, some of whom were convicted murderers. This observation was likely due to Mr Purcell's lack of knowledge about Thai legislation and the criminal justice system.

In fact, Bangkok Remand Prison is mainly responsible for keeping in custody all remand prisoners, which means prisoners who have yet to be sentenced and those awaiting appeal. According to the Constitution, they are all presumed innocent until the passing of judgement convicting a person of having committed an offence.

CHARTCHAI SUTHIKLOM
Director-general,
Department of Corrections

bangkokpost.com

Originally Posted by Mid

Opinion

Aussie red shirt was not mistreated in prison
10/11/2010

The report headlined ''Aussie red shirt says he was beaten in jail'' (Bangkok Post, Sept 9, 2010) contained factual errors which could cause public misunderstanding and tarnish the reputation of the Department of Corrections.

Them factual errors are the facts that you don't like!

Originally Posted by Mid

First, the claim that Conor Purcell was attacked by seven other prisoners in an ''ordered assault'' in Bangkok Remand Prison was actually only a minor quarrel. The fact is that Mr Purcell was attacked by two other prisoners because during the daily count he had caused a disturbance with his rude manners, resulting in the attack. Prison authorities investigated the matter and disciplined all three prisoners by denying them visitation rights for one month.

"A minor quarrel", "rude manners". Yeah right......

Originally Posted by Mid

Second is the allegation that Bangkok Remand Prison refused medical attention for Mr Purcell for almost two weeks after the attack. The prison conforms to the standard minimum rules regarding medical treatment for prisoners by treating all inmates equally and free of charge. In the case of Mr Purcell, he requested to meet the medical officer on May 27.

But on May 26 he was moved to new accommodation for security reasons. Later on May 27, he refused to meet with the medical staff. It was assumed he needed to adjust himself to his new environment. He had his first contact with medical staff on May 31, following the long official holiday (May 28-30 on the occasion of Visakha Bucha).

Then Mr Purcell was transferred to the Medical Correctional Institution for further treatment.

Third, Mr Purcell claims he was kept in a cell with almost 40 prisoners, some of whom were convicted murderers. This observation was likely due to Mr Purcell's lack of knowledge about Thai legislation and the criminal justice system.

In fact, Bangkok Remand Prison is mainly responsible for keeping in custody all remand prisoners, which means prisoners who have yet to be sentenced and those awaiting appeal. According to the Constitution, they are all presumed innocent until the passing of judgement convicting a person of having committed an offence.

CHARTCHAI SUTHIKLOM
Director-general,
Department of Corrections

bangkokpost.com

Eithen though I think the Aussie Redshirt was a total dick, I think Mr Chartchai is speaking porkies here. I nice little article to cover up what really happened.

Originally Posted by Mid

According to the Constitution, they are all presumed innocent until the passing of judgement convicting a person of having committed an offence.

So why do you need to put leg irons on the presumed innocent?

Originally Posted by Mid

Then Mr Purcell was transferred to the Medical Correctional Institution for further treatment.

So why did he need treatment?

I find it very hard to believe that the Thai Government would encourage prisoners to attack and beat up another prisoner. a prison guard for sure but not all the way up to the Government. sounds like this guy just has it in for the Establshment no matter where he is. he is also having a pop at the Aussie Embassy as well! WTF does he think they are going to do for him when inside? he is lucky to get a visit from them.

I am all for free speech, but keep the noise down when it does not concern you. he should not have been on that stage. full stop!

Originally Posted by Onnuter

I find it very hard to believe that the Thai Government would encourage prisoners to attack and beat up another prisoner.

I think he used the term "Thai Government" as a general term. Most likely he meant that was sanctioned by an official connected with the case. He may have given them a bit of lip at some stage. His mouth most likely got him into trouble.

Originally Posted by Onnuter

I find it very hard to believe that the Thai Government would encourage prisoners to attack and beat up another prisoner.

They can do pretty much anything they want under the emergency decree though.

Whether they did or did not order Purcell to be beaten is debatable but the buck stops with them and they have eroded any confidence with their continued abuse of censorship laws, the emergency decree and human rights since they came to power through the judiciary.

Originally Posted by Onnuter

I am all for free speech, but keep the noise down when it does not concern you. he should not have been on that stage. full stop!

Many Thais supported him being on that stage so that speaks for itself.

I don't buy into this "you're just a guest here so keep your opinions to yourself" nonsense that the Thais would love for us all to buy into. I for one have a Thai spouse and pay taxes so I'll damn well say what I like whether they or other foreigners like it or not.

Good on Purcell for having the courage of his convictions I say.

Originally Posted by Mid

tarnish the reputation of the Department of Corrections.

Their reputation could hardly be worse!

Loud mouthed wankers get whats' coming to them inside from other inmates, particularly if they piss them off by going against the status quo. Same all over the world.

Originally Posted by DroversDog

Originally Posted by Onnuter

I find it very hard to believe that the Thai Government would encourage prisoners to attack and beat up another prisoner.

I think he used the term "Thai Government" as a general term. Most likely he meant that was sanctioned by an official connected with the case. He may have given them a bit of lip at some stage. His mouth most likely got him into trouble.

Where the fuking hell do you come from? you find it hard to believe, what a load of shite best you do some reading or read Damage Done

Originally Posted by Onnuter

I am all for free speech, but keep the noise down when it does not concern you. he should not have been on that stage. full stop!

Then you're not really for free speech, are you? You're for partly free speech. When free speech become annoying you'd like it stopped.