Thread: Thailand : Bangkok councillor elections

Just to let you know it goes the other way to betty. One bad thing about living in Don Muang is that is a very corrupt district due to the police and military involvement. The democrats never win here and it is controlled by Karun "Gang" Honsakul of the PT party.

Come on out and watch it. Busloads of conscripts arrive to vote in every election, thousand of them. The only problem is they are not from BKK but from various provinces up country. But PT and Gang give them false ID's and they vote as told and paid.
Now we have two new district representatives with the same last name as Gang, his brother who is a gardener at gangs house, and his ex wife who wants in on the money.

I too am angry at the Dems, but only because they dont have enough balls or brains to stop this from happening. Same problem they have with the North East.

^^I'm interested of course. I will watch it if I can.

But as I've constantly said, I don't trust anyone involved in politics here and it could be any faction. They are, without exception, an utterly vile bunch of crooks.

^ & ^^ I have no doubt it is done by all parties.

But, when the Yellows/Dems/army drive out elected folk on the premise of corruption then continue to be corrupt, I'd suggest even more corrupt, then it's relevant.

The Dems are absolute liars. The TRT were too, but they were elected liars who didn't use the army and emergency laws to control the nation without a vote...

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

They are, without exception, an utterly vile bunch of crooks.

This is the 2nd or 3rd point we can agree on this week; things are looking up...

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

The TRT were too, but they were elected liars who didn't use the army and emergency laws to control the nation without a vote...

what makes you think they wouldn't have eventually ?

oh wait, I forgot you can see the future

Originally Posted by Butterfly

what makes you think they wouldn't have eventually ?

I did write a long post explaining, but then remembered who it was addressed to and deleted it... Let's keep it simple:

We don't need to look into the future; we can look at the very recent past.

As others have said, it is not uncommon to bring people in and fraudulently have them vote in a district. What is unheard of is the ballot box stuffing that apparently is being a discussed.

As anyone that has actually seen a Thai election station will say, each voter must show ID card with an address in the district and signs for a ballot. (The names are not on the ballot), the count of ballots must match how many people signed for them. People bringing plastic bags in to be counted, with the implication they were not real ballots would be very hard to do.

Also, the counting is held in public with each ballot held up and the vote read out loud and recorded. The ballot is then marked as counted (by punching hole in it) and placed in a container, one for each candidate in case a recount is ordered.
TH

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

I did write a long post explaining, but then remembered who it was addressed to and deleted it

you did good, your posts are usually garbage, usually representating fascist garbage, so no big loss for anyone

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

We don't need to look into the future; we can look at the very recent past.

a short past doesn't tell you anything about the long term, you naive fool

are you implying they were cheating ?

nice of them to film the event

From the videos: Somebody with better Thai than mine is needed here...

It looks/sounds like some 'ballots' were brought in which were 'sealed' in bags, but not in the ballot boxes themselves, and they were not clearly associated with voters/voter registrations, etc.

I could be way off... Any fluent speakers who can sum it up properly?

could it be part of the collection and consolidation process ?

I am sure the red who posted that video are very well fluent in the voting process

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

Sondhi Limthongkul, a former leader of the New Politics Party, has criticized the joint press briefing held by General Kittisak Rathprasert and the Pheu Thai Party, calling it inappropriate.

Why? If the Genral thought corruption was at hand, then it is most appropriate.

Can I suggest, that yellow nutter means that it is not appropriate to work against our paymasters...

As I said, SD and others, this will be burried...

Of course, you know you are not allowed to step out of the party line here.

I think it is quite amusing watching Sondhi throw his weight around...

"even though he is no longer holding any official position"

http://thainews.prd.go.th/en/news.php?id=255309070007

EC to probe into voting irregularities in nine districts

BANGKOK, 7 September 2010 (NNT) — The Election Commission (EC) has disclosed that several complaints of voting irregularities have been filed in nine districts during the past Bangkok district council elections.

Election commissioner Prapan Naikowit said the nine districts are Minburi, Pasricharoen, Kannayao, Klong Toey, Bangkok Noi, Sai Mai 1 and 2, Lad Krabang, Bangapi. If evidence is sufficient, the EC reject the outcome of the elections although the body is required by law to announce the official results within 30 days

The Bangkok district and council elections held on 29 August 2010 saw a turnout of only 42.07 per cent, one of the lowest in history. The ruling Democrat Party swept 46 seats, while the opposition Pheu Thai Party picked up in 14. The New Politics Party, the offshoot of the People’s Alliance for Democracy, came up empty-handed in its political debut.

FYI

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

the nine districts are Minburi (red), Pasricharoen (red), Kannayao (red), Klong Toey (blue), Bangkok Noi (blue), Sai Mai 1 and 2 (blue), Lad Krabang (red), Bangapi (blue).

I lived in Bagkok Noi for the last 4 years, and you've never seen a more red area... The Dems got the seat??? These Bangkok elections really are NOT representative of the people that live and work in the areas.

^^^ The Democrats won the council seat in Bangkok Noi in previous election in 2006 as well. The also won the MP in the past 4 elections.
TH

^ That's what I'm saying TH. BangkokNoi is all red (a very large army contingent around Bangkok Noi during the protests suggests they know it), but obviously these folk don't have voting rights.

Bangkok is seen as a Dem heartland. Well, with respect to people with voting rights it clearly is. But, I'd suggest that very few, if any (outside of Thonglor...) areas have more Dem than red supporters in them. I'd say that Bangkok Noi is about 4-1 or 5-1 in the reds favour (wild guessing here...), as an example.

Try to book a ticket on a train or bus to KK or Ubon during a holiday period (or normal weekend for that matter), not easy because Bkk has a massive (many millions) non-Dem voting population.

#44^^
They have voting rights; it is just back in their home province as they have chosen not to move their house registration. It is a very easy thing to do, but they choose not to because they don't consider Bangkok home and keep the ties to the family upcountry.
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