Thread: Toddler is kidnapped by Thai bride

Originally Posted by dukeoni

I recently took my 21 month old daughter to the UK, her mother stayed here, at imigration BK, i had to telephone my wife so they could see if she was aware of this, after several questions they were satisfied this was ok, why was this woman allowed to take this child from the UK without being challenged?????

Last time i visited UK, most of the immigration mob wore turbans, maybe they could'nt care less, unlike an anglo saxon brit immigration officer, and we do read of many young kids especially girls being taken back by their fathers for marriages etc., how do they get away with it. Surely a single man with a young girl or even boy leaving the country, should signal a red flag to a normal person.

Originally Posted by Happy Dave

Originally Posted by larvidchr

We haven't got the whole story here, not that it matters that much for the boy, but I'm amazed the Thai authorities assisted the English father in this case, the boy is a Thai citizen, usually they could not care less what a court in a foreign country have decided, my guess is that some money have changed hands, because it sure sounds like Thai law have been circumvented.

Secondly just as the Mother is wrong, so is the Father, a child have a right to both it's parents, just as both parents have a right to their children as a general rule, as so often the child is the big looser in cases like this, finally we only know the story from one point of view, maybe? the guy is a real ass-hole in a relationship like many of the desperate love-seekers coming over here is, and maybe the mother fled to Thailand because she feared that she would lose the child in an English custody case as she indeed did in the end?.

I know some will say, but the one parent have more money, live in a European country ect. ect. but that do not necessarily make the best parent for the child, and the failings of the Mother is only the Fathers side of the story.

I am not prepared to name heroes or villains yet on this one, as far as I am concerned both the Mother and Father are idiots, letting their child become the battleground in an adult quarrel.

Why is he a Thai citizen, he was born in the UK from a Brit father ???

Would he not automatically become a Thai citizen staying with a Thai Mother/parent in Thailand?? I'm not sure but I would have thought so, just like any child I might make here automatically could become Danish if I brought her/him back home.

This is a great story to hear. Sometimes you do not get the good side of stories today...Good for him.

As a piece of "journalism" its so one sided it reminds of the old Not the Nine O'clock News skit.....................

....today 900 people died in a landslide in Bolivia whilst 1200 people were killed in ferry disaster in the Philippines . MEANWHILE AN ENGLISHMAN IN BUENOS ARIES WAS EXTREMELY HURT BY A REMARK MADE ABOUT THE CUT OF HIS SUIT!.....

johnny foreigner is apparently still a curse on good british values in the eyes of the british media

Does this mean that all the men pictured with ferraris are not real? I am gutted, truly gutted!!!

He must have endured a lot of hardship if he aged four years in three months.

Why is he a Thai citizen, he was born in the UK from a Brit father ???[/quote]

Would he not automatically become a Thai citizen staying with a Thai Mother/parent in Thailand?? I'm not sure but I would have thought so, just like any child I might make here automatically could become Danish if I brought her/him back home.[/quote]


No, not automatically, the child would have a british passport, to get out of the UK, and when in thailand the mother would have to travel to bangkok register the child and apply for a thai passport and then citizenship, which would of course cost a few bob, of which i doubt she would spend.

I know this as a friend of mine had similar circumstances, and phoned the police in the uk told them what flight they were going to catch, and still the mother left with a very young child unchallenged, the british system does not work in favour of british people.

[QUOTE="StrontiumDog"]Last night Kim denied she would leave Jobe alone in the UK and said: "Sean wouldn't get my British citizenship for me. What was I supposed to do? I don't feel bad about taking Jobe to Thailand. He is my son and I love him. I might have done wrong in the UK, but in my country I haven't.[/QUOTE]

Well that's alright then you stupid bitch!!! Then again even if Thailand has got child laws to protect them from say abuse, parents selling their children into prostitution etc, etc, etc (You know the quote ;-)
They are never enforced as the cops here are total muppets.

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

"I agreed to let Sean take him back to the UK because I know he will look after him. "We both love Jobe and I don't want to fight any more. I still want to see my son. I hope to come soon."

She loves her son??!!!!! Yeah that's why she had left him home alone in his cot!!! Get Tee fook bitch....you are like many thai's...fricking useless as a parent...

2 sides to every story...


Though the lesson is clear. Don't breed with simian peasantry.

Originally Posted by Chairman Mao

2 sides to every story...


Though the lesson is clear. Don't breed with simian peasantry.

Pretty much. A lot of the kids born of these relationships are used and thought of as emotional hostages and bargaining chips by the local half of the equation.
Seen it happen to a lot of people and friends here over the years.

^ Yup, even seen it happen to members on this forum. So it's certainly a widespread phenomenon out here.


Still, when people are offered sex for the first time in years/decades it easily happens.

Norton Canes dad releases book telling how he snatched back son from Thailand
Mike Lockley
Apr 11 2012

A FATHER has released a book of the harrowing search for his snatched son in the jungles of Thailand.

Sean Felton posed as an American playboy to trick his estranged wife Kim into handing back three-year-old Jobe, after she’d spirited the child to her native country.

Now the 41-year-old’s gripping account of the rescue operation – Scared Of The Dark – has hit the shelves.


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On Saturday the painter and decorator signs copies at the Walsall branch of Waterstones.

Sean’s world fell apart in 2010 when he returned to the family home in Norton Canes, Staffordshire, to find Kim and Jobe missing.

He spent six months trying to locate mother and son – contacting Interpol, local police and his MP – before posing as a rich American to woo Kim on Facebook and discover her whereabouts.

The dad then travelled the 6,000 miles to the hut where Jobe was being kept. He had his hair cut off and chipped teeth, recalls Sean.

“The book took about nine weeks – and that was writing every day,’’ he said.

‘‘It seems to be going very well and I’ve even had people knocking on my door, asking me to sign copies.

“I’m half-way through a follow-up, With Help From The Angels, which deals with Jobe’s life back in Britain.

“Jobe’s really settled. I’m proud to bits with him.”

Sean is now lobbying for changes to the passport system involving minors, a campaign he’s dubbed Jobe’s Law. In cases of children of estranged couples, documents would have to be filled-in and written permission gained from both parents before youngsters are taken out of the country.

Sean has also given a number of talks on his battle to be re-united with Jobe – a rescue mission made possible by an £80,000 donation from a mystery businessman.

“I won’t reveal the man’s name,” added Sean, “but he has been like a father to me. I can never repay him but hopefully this (the book) will go some way.”

He has also launched a website, Abducted Angels, for desperate parents searching for lost children.

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He has also launched a website, Abducted Angels, for desperate parents searching for lost children.

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Interesting turn of events. Good to hear he got his son back. Scary that his son was living in a hut and had a shaved head and chipped teeth thanks to his 'mother'. All it took to get this woman's attention again was to say that he was rich. She came running pretty fast.

Originally Posted by Mid

Sean is now lobbying for changes to the passport system involving minors, a campaign he’s dubbed Jobe’s Law. In cases of children of estranged couples, documents would have to be filled-in and written permission gained from both parents before youngsters are taken out of the country.

I thought laws were already in place regarding travel for children, in that both parents need to acknowlege the fact that the child is allowed to travel with one or the other.

I've seen this at the Bangkok airport, where parents need to both go through immigration and explain what they are doing if they are taking a child to another country.

^ Not sure but it used to be that you could have the kid on the mother's passport rather than them having their own. I believe it's changed now, but it may have applied here.

My lad was on his mum's passport until he was about 3.

I think what is ment is from the UK end taking children out of the UK would need both parents to give permision .

Cheers for the update Mid. Nice to know how it ended up and that father and son are doing so well. Good news for a change.

i hope the guy gets his kid back but if he is relying on the law he has no chance.

under thai law a parent cannot be charged with kidnapping his/her own child, so his best bet is to snatch the kid himself and somehow get it the hell out of thailand and back to civilization, where he has a chance.
ok, the guy was stoopid, but why the hell do so many dumb farang, living abroad with kids born to a thai mother, get their kids a thai passport, and let the mother have access to it?
once the child has a passport there is no way one can stop the child being taken out of the country. (first hand experience here, including the kidnapping, but it was me who kidnapped the kids from their mother)

^ Read post #53 again. He already has the kid back.

Looks like it has cost the guy a fair bit and I would bet that he had to make a few 'donations' to some officials in order to get the Thai law on his side.

The Mum didn't give a fuck in the end, handing over the kid without a fight on the condition of her having a week in a 5 star hotel in Bangkok... Says it all.

Seems like you could have cashed in by writing a book about your experiences tsicar.

Originally Posted by natalie8

Originally Posted by Mid

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I thought laws were already in place regarding travel for children, in that both parents need to acknowlege the fact that the child is allowed to travel with one or the other.

I've seen this at the Bangkok airport, where parents need to both go through immigration and explain what they are doing if they are taking a child to another country.

both parents have to be present and sign for the kid to be issued a passport, but they don't ask questions at the airports as long as the kid's travel documents are in order.
i WAS asked casually, where the boys' mother was, and i told them she was already back in south africa, and i was taking them to her.
no plomplem.

Well done Sean!!,
for whatever reason you got sucked into the relationship and it ended up going pair-shaped you stuck at it to find your boy, luckyly he's young enough not to understand whats happened, i wish you and little Jobe all the best in the future,
hope you get to come back to Thailand some day, always got spare rooms if you need a place to stop,

Originally Posted by marcmarc

Well done Sean!!,

two years ago mate.

Dad who rescued his kidnapped son from Thailand campaigns for tighter child passport controls
Mike Lockley and Simran Bhogal
25 Aug 2013

Sean Felton, whose mission to find three-year-old Jobe after he was taken away by Thai wife Kim made global headlines, has founded Abducted Angels to help other heartbroken parents separated from their children.


Sean Felton with his son Jobe at home in Staffordshire

A dad from Staffordshire who carried out a daring mission to rescue his son – snatched by his former partner and taken to the jungles of Thailand – is marching to Downing Street to demand tighter passport controls.

Sean Felton is set to hand a 7,500-strong petition to David Cameron urging the Prime Minister to pass a law to make it illegal to take a child out of the country without both parents' consent.

The 41 year-old whose mission to find three-year-old Jobe after he was taken away by Thai wife Kim made global headlines, has founded Abducted Angels to help other heartbroken parents separated from their children.

Sean set off on his 175 mile march from his home in Norton Canes last Saturday with his petition, backed by his campaign group, and aims to reach Number 10 by Tuesday.

The painter and decorator’s world fell apart on March 26, 2010, when he returned home to discover that Kim, a hotel worker he met on holiday, and their son had vanished.

After three agonising days, Kim rang with the bombshell – Jobe was in Thailand.

Incredibly, Sean succeeded where detectives, politicians, the Foreign Office and even Interpol failed.

He tracked down the pair, by posing as an American playboy he named Matt Young.

Kim was wooed on Facebook by the fictitious ‘Matt’, and his pictures of his Ferrari and promises of cash.


Jobe on the day he was found in Thailand

Sean had to grease palms and brave bandits before he found Kim and Jobe in a squalid village in the Chiang Rai province, close to the Burmese border, and at the heart of the narcotics freeway known as the Golden Triangle, where poppy crops, not English pounds, are the currency that counts.

“I will never forget it,” recalled Sean, who has written a book about the saga. “He had no eyes – they were, like, soulless.

“His thumbnails were ripped and his teeth were chipped. I picked him up. He couldn’t speak. He was scared.

“He didn’t speak English, it was just gibberish. You’ve got to remember, this is a child who had been spoilt to death.

“For him to be picked up and taken to Thailand – a totally different culture, totally different food – must have been devastating.”

Kim handed back the child for £1,000, ownership of a parcel of land in Thailand that Sean had purchased for more than £6,000, a laptop and agreement by the British Embassy she wouldn’t face prosecution in this country.

Rachael Shalloe, of Abducted Angels, said Sean’s marathon trek is part of the charity’s mission to “get the government to be more proactive in cases of child abduction”.

Sean set off with Leila Sabra, from Manchester, a parent still fighting for her daughter’s return from Egypt.

The four-year-old was taken there by her father in 2011. Sadly, Leila fell ill and was forced to pull out, but pledged on Facebook: “I will be joining Sean on the last leg of the walk to Downing Street.”

She added: “The only way I will get my daughter back is with the government’s help.


Sean Felton and Kim (right) on their wedding day

“Without them, I’m just a single woman fighting against an entire country.

“This is why I became involved with Abducted Angels. I want to try and help make a difference to the lives of other parents in a similar position.”

Donations to Abducted Angels can be made online by visiting https://fundrazr.com/campaigns/da4z0

Cheques can be sent directly to the charity’s headquarters: Jungle Joes, Martindale Industrial Estate, Hawks Green, Cannock, WS11 7XN.

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Jeez, what a weird looking guy. LOL about Chiang Rai and poppies as currency!

by Mike Lockley and Simran Bhogal


Dad who rescued his kidnapped son from Thailand campaigns for tighter child passport controls - Birmingham Mail


A dad from Staffordshire who carried out a daring mission to rescue his son – snatched by his former partner and taken to the jungles of Thailand – is marching to Downing Street to demand tighter passport controls.

Sean Felton is set to hand a 7,500-strong petition to David Cameron urging the Prime Minister to pass a law to make it illegal to take a child out of the country without both parents' consent.

The 41 year-old whose mission to find three-year-old Jobe after he was taken away by Thai wife Kim made global headlines, has founded Abducted Angels to help other heartbroken parents separated from their children.

Sean set off on his 175 mile march from his home in Norton Canes last Saturday with his petition, backed by his campaign group, and aims to reach Number 10 by Tuesday.

The painter and decorator’s world fell apart on March 26, 2010, when he returned home to discover that Kim, a hotel worker he met on holiday, and their son had vanished.

After three agonising days, Kim rang with the bombshell – Jobe was in Thailand.

Incredibly, Sean succeeded where detectives, politicians, the Foreign Office and even Interpol failed.

He tracked down the pair, by posing as an American playboy he named Matt Young.

Kim was wooed on Facebook by the fictitious ‘Matt’, and his pictures of his Ferrari and promises of cash.

Jobe on the day he was found in ThailandJobe on the day he was found in Thailand
Sean had to grease palms and brave bandits before he found Kim and Jobe in a squalid village in the Chiang Rai province, close to the Burmese border, and at the heart of the narcotics freeway known as the Golden Triangle, where poppy crops, not English pounds, are the currency that counts.

“I will never forget it,” recalled Sean, who has written a book about the saga. “He had no eyes – they were, like, soulless.

“His thumbnails were ripped and his teeth were chipped. I picked him up. He couldn’t speak. He was scared.

“He didn’t speak English, it was just gibberish. You’ve got to remember, this is a child who had been spoilt to death.

“For him to be picked up and taken to Thailand – a totally different culture, totally different food – must have been devastating.”

Kim handed back the child for £1,000, ownership of a parcel of land in Thailand that Sean had purchased for more than £6,000, a laptop and agreement by the British Embassy she wouldn’t face prosecution in this country.

Rachael Shalloe, of Abducted Angels, said Sean’s marathon trek is part of the charity’s mission to “get the government to be more proactive in cases of child abduction”.

Sean set off with Leila Sabra, from Manchester, a parent still fighting for her daughter’s return from Egypt.

The four-year-old was taken there by her father in 2011. Sadly, Leila fell ill and was forced to pull out, but pledged on Facebook: “I will be joining Sean on the last leg of the walk to Downing Street.”

She added: “The only way I will get my daughter back is with the government’s help.

Sean Felton and Kim (right) on their wedding daySean Felton and Kim (right) on their wedding day
“Without them, I’m just a single woman fighting against an entire country.

“This is why I became involved with Abducted Angels. I want to try and help make a difference to the lives of other parents in a similar position.”

Donations to Abducted Angels can be made online by visiting https://fundrazr.com/campaigns/da4z0

Cheques can be sent directly to the charity’s headquarters: Jungle Joes, Martindale Industrial Estate, Hawks Green, Cannock, WS11 7XN.