Thread: Puea Thai, Puae Pandin to join force ?

Puea Thai, Puae Pandin to join force
5/06/2010

Senior members of Puea Thai Party had on Friday night discussed ways to join hands and form a government in the future with core members of a smaller political party in the coalition government, party spokesman Jirayu Huangsap said on Saturday.

Mr Jirayu said the coalition partner that have difference standpoint with the Democrat Party expressed concerns about the failure in settling economic and political problems of the Democrat-led government.

In addition, the society considered that the government had ordered troops to kill red-shirt protesters at Phan Fa Bridge and Ratchaprasong intersection and this could lead to a negative sentiment against coalition partners, he said.

There was also concern that the prime minister and the Democrats did not care people’s feeling by refraining from removing Interior Minister Chavarat Charnvirakul and Transport Minister Sohpon Zarum who failed to clarify the corruption allegations by the opposition camp, he added.

Puea Thai spokesman said the coalition partners will come up with its stance on political standpoint on Monday. He believed the MPs that voted against ministers of the Bhumjaithai Party would later join his party.

Mr Jirayu did not mention name of the coalition partner, but it was widely known that only the Puea Pandin Party that had a critical rift with the coalition after failing to vote in support of the grilled ministers.

bangkokpost.com

Mid : Question mark in thread title is mine .

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So, when is the election?
Next year?

^

$64 ?

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/home...-30139395.html


Bhum Jai Thai urges PM to rethink before cutting it loose

The Bhum Jai Thai Party remains upbeat that the prime minister will carefully review his options before deciding on the government lineup favouring Puea Pandin at the Bhum Jai Thai expense, party spokesman Suphachai Jaisamut said on Tuesday.

"I trust the prime minister will think hard if he is going to choose between Peua Pandin and Bhum Jai Thai," Supachia said, reacting to speculation about the Cabinet reshuffle to reflect Puea Pandin's 32 votes instead of its clique of 10 votes.

He said although Abhisit Vejjajiva would have the final say on the composition of the coalition alliance, his party was confident that no decision on the issue would be made without the consent of coalition partners.

Very interesting things going on then....BJT could be ditched by the Dem's in favour of PP...maybe....

It might be a wise move by the Dem's to put some serious distance between them and the BJT.

strange indeed, maybe BJT is preparing another political coup with their former partners in crime ?

Its nothing that a huge sum of cash can't fix.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/home...-30139683.html


No Cabinet reshuffle, Korn not coalition manager: PM

Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva on Friday denied speculation about the Cabinet reshuffle designed to pave way for the return of a mainstream faction of Puea Pandin Party, known as the 3Ps clique.

"There is no change in the Cabinet line-up," he said, promising to keep reporters informed if there is a further development.

The speculation about the return of the 3Ps clique to the coalition bandwagon happened when he was abroad, he said.

Neither former deputy prime minister Suthep Thaugsuban, the designated coalition manager, nor Finance Minister Korn Chatikavanij had alerted him about the 3Ps clique, he said.

The Nation

Originally Posted by mc2

Its nothing that a huge sum of cash can't fix.

The cash wouldn't be the bottom line. Power and control are fiercely the priority.

^ cash helps though.

Newin did very well in the last round of army talks; 40 or 50 million baht per head, he probably took 25% of each, a few ministry budgets, dad in a nice position, generally sorted himself out very well. He must be up for more of the same... Oh yeah, and he has been banned and 'out of politics' the whole time. Bloody fine lot these Dems/Pad/army; really taking the country forward...

No Cabinet reshuffle, Korn not coalition manager: PM

Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva on Friday denied speculation about the Cabinet reshuffle designed to pave way for the return of a mainstream faction of Puea Pandin Party, known as the 3Ps clique.

"There is no change in the Cabinet line-up," he said, promising to keep reporters informed if there is a further development.

The speculation about the return of the 3Ps clique to the coalition bandwagon happened when he was abroad, he said.

Neither former deputy prime minister Suthep Thaugsuban, the designated coalition manager, nor Finance Minister Korn Chatikavanij had alerted him about the 3Ps clique, he said.

nationmultimedia.com

It would be best if everyone remained at home when the next election is held. Just don't vote.

Thai politicians are clearly all corrupt and the economy chugs along nicely without them anyway.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/home...-30139800.html

No changes planned: PM

By The Nation
Published on October 11, 2010

Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva yesterday dismissed a report about looming changes in political camps, saying it was just speculation and only he and coalition parties had the power to make such decisions.

The report comes in the wake of the dissolution case involving the ruling Democrat party.

The PM said neither he nor coalition parties were concerned about political manoeuvring by fugitive ex-premier Thaksin Shinawatra.

"No one can make it happen because only I and the coalition can jointly make this decision."

He said the government would not be able to achieve national reconciliation if it compromised with people who broke the law.

He rejected a proposal by red-shirt leader Veera Musikapong that all red-shirt leaders be released on bail as the first step towards reconciliation. Such decisions were up to the courts.

"If a court believe they won't stir up trouble after they are released, there is the chance they will be released," he said.

Interior Minister Chaovarat Chanweerakul rejected reports the Bhum Jai Thai Party would be kicked out of the coalition, saying the coalition was still united.

Asked why every political party was active with election campaigns - as if a national poll was imminent, Chaovarat said it was common for parties to be ready for an election.

"No one knows when it is going to rain. Sometimes it looks like it is going to rain but there is no rain,'' he said.

http://www.bangkokpost.com/breakingn...udge-with-dems

BJT: Row with Dems now ended

• Published: 12/10/2010 at 02:39 PM
• Online news: Politics

The row between the Democrat and Bhumjaithai parties has ended, coalition Bhumjaithai spokesman Supachai Jaisamut said on Tuesday.

"The Bhumjaithai-Democrat relations have been restored after the Democrats sent a clear signal that there will not be a cabinet reshuffle, and that a faction of the Puea Pandin Party has refused to join the coalition," Mr Supachai said.

He said the cabinet ministers from Bhumjaithai were not involved in corruption and they were ready for inspection.

"There are some people who want to put pressure on the Democrat and Bhumjaithai parties, but I don't want to comment whether they are inside the government or not," he said.

The Bhumjaithai Party will continue working with the government, he added.

THes between Bhumjaithai and coalition Puea Pandin Party soured after a number of Puea Pandin MPs refused to support Bhumjaithai's Interior Minister Chavarat Charnvirakul and Transport Minister Sohpon Zarum during the censure debate in June.

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/poli...abinet-changes

PM: No cabinet changes

• Published: 12/10/2010 at 02:53 PM
• Online news: Local News

Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva on Tuesday said he has no intention of making changes in the cabinet during this time, dispelling speculation that a Puea Pandin Party faction, which was excluded from the cabinet in the last reshuffle, would be brought back to replace the Bhumjaithai Party.

"I can assure you that there will not be a cabinet reshuffle during this time. The Bhumjaithai Party is still with the government.

"If the (Democrat) Party is dissolved and I am banned from politics, I would not have to think about this matter since somebody else would take over the job from me," Mr Abhisit said.

Speculation had run rife that Bhumjaithai would be kicked off and replaced with the so-call "three Ps" faction of Puea Pandin.

The prime minister said if there is to be a cabinet reshuffle, efficiency of individual ministers would be taken for consideration.

He admitted that the government's performance was satisfactory on one part and below satisfaction on the other. He did not elaborate.

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3 PS CLIQUE

Korn denies reports linking him with 3 Ps clique

Finance Minister Korn Chatikavanij dismissed speculation about his involvement in negotiating for the return of the 3 Ps clique of the Puea Pandin Party to the coalition alliance.

The clique, comprising three faction leaders - Preecha Laohapongchana, Pinij Charusombat and Pairoj Suwanchawee, was boosted out of the government following the censure vote against two ministers from Bhum Jai Thai.

Korn said speculation about the clique was designed to smear him and cause a rift within the coalition.

Bhum Jai Thai spokesman Supachai Jaisamut, meanwhile, called for the Democrats to remain firm on their alliance, warning about the malicious attempt to sow the distrust between the main coalition party and its junior partner.

Supachai drew an analogy that the DemocratBhum Jai Thai alliance was like a husbandandwife team. The marital status would be in jeopardy if the husband picks a third party over the wife, he said.

He voiced suspicion there was a movement to drive a wedge between the Democrat and the Bhum Jai Thai parties.

He said the aim was to boost Bhum Jai Thai out of the government because its ministers were in charge of top ministries such as Interior and Transport.

Commenting on alleged corruption cases linked to Bhum Jai Thai, he said he was confident his party could clear its name.

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BURNING ISSUE

Coalition boat not quite steady

By Piyanart Srivalo
The Nation
Published on October 13, 2010

Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva has been quick to rule out any changes in the government upon his return from New York.

His reaction was prompted by a report that Finance Minister Korn Chatikavanij, as Democrat deputy leader, had contacted Pinit Charusombat, one of the "3Ps" of the Puea Pandin Party, and discussed the party's return to the government coalition later this month. The report said the Democrats were looking for more MP support before the ruling on the Democrat Party dissolution case. The report even said that one of the goals is to "cut" Bhum Jai Thai out of the government.However, such a change is not guaranteed to happen in the future. It has been confirmed that contact is made. The parties involved are waiting for another clear signal.

"We have accepted the invitation," one of the "3Ps" said.

The reports seem to be gaining some ground. Korn is considered a rising star in the Democrat Party, with the support of secretary-general Suthep Thaugsuban. Suthep had assigned Korn to keep in touch with the 3Ps all along, since Puea Pandin left the government.

No matter what the state of the government, the reports somehow hugely benefit the ruling Democrats. It is able to hit two birds with one stone. In a way, it holds the Puea Pandin in leash and prevents it from joining the opposition Pheu Thai Party. The other target is to close "the door to the Northeast" of such political rivals as Bhum Jai Thai's Newin Chidchob. At the same time, it sends a warning to the Bhum Jai Thai Party, which has been accused of corruption in the ministries controlled by it. A brewing row between the Democrat and Bhum Jai Thai is over Abhisit blocking the appointment of Mongkol Surasajja as permanent secretary of Interior as proposed by Bhum Jai Thai. The reason cited for the decision to block the appointment was the scandals related to the Bt3.4-billion procurement of the ministry's computers for registration work.

Another case relates to irregularities in the entrance examinations for the District Chief School. The National Anti-Corruption Commission last Wednesday announced finding grounds of cheating in class 68, 69 and 70 involving 142 applicants. The NACC sought legal and disciplinary punishment against many senior officers. The charges said they conspired with three "powerful people" in the Interior Ministry.

The prime minister even said that he needs to hold discussions with Bhum Jai Thai, especially its administration of the Interior Ministry. It is a direct signal to Bhum Jai Thai's de facto leader Newin.

Furthermore, some reports said Bhum Jai Thai's quotas for the Transport and Commerce ministries might be taken back in the next Cabinet reshuffle.

To distract people from reports that Bhum Jai Thai might be forced out, its spokesman Supachai Jaisamut then released reports of Pinit taking orders from former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra to topple the government, although the real target was Bhum Jai Thai itself, not the government.

While things are still unsettled, the group of Deputy Education Minister Chaiyos Chiramethakorn, who was in Puea Pandin Party, is closely watching developments as he is concerned about his post.
Reports said key members of Puea Pandin Party have tried to get all the 32 MPs back together.

"Having all the factions of Puea Pandin, comprising 32 MPs, together will make negotiation for ministerial posts easier as it would be having the same strength as before," a key member of Chaiyos's faction said.

"Our group is waiting to see the government's moves, and whether Bhum Jai Thai will still stay with the government or not. If we can bring the 32 MPs together, it would be the same number as Bhum Jai Thai's. If the government drops Bhum Jai Thai, it might draw 15 defecting MPs from Pheu Thai Party and the government can stay afloat comfortably," one of the faction leaders in Puea Pandin Party said.

ok we got the message, they need a fucking dictator to rule all those silly political factions,

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Bhum Jai Thai Undaunted by PM's Criticism

UPDATE : 13 October 2010

Bhum Jai Thai Party says the prime minister can ask his Cabinet members if he has doubt about their work, but believes there will be no change made to the Cabinet for the time being.

Deputy Interior Minister Boonjong Wongtrairat, also Deputy Leader of the Bhum Jai Thai Party, said Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva's remark over the poor performance of some ministries was not a sign of an imminent Cabinet reshuffle.


He insisted the government coalition is still united.

Boonjong said if the prime minister has questions on the transparency of any Cabinet member, he has the power to seek explanation from them.

He insisted that all ministers must be held accountable by independent agencies at all time.

Boonjong warned that the government must clarify to the public about the speculation on the removal of his party from the administration.

Rumors have been rampant that the Democrat led coalition will kick out Bhum Jai Thai and replace it with a faction from Puea Pandin Party.

He also said Pheu Thai Party's campaign policies, whether it is the increase of daily minimum wage to 300 baht, the mandatory start up salary of 15,000 baht for bachelor degree holders or the guarantee of rice price at 15,000 baht a ton at least, are good offers for voters.

Boonjong, however, questioned the practicality of such policies.

He added Pheu Thai de facto leader and fugitive former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinwatra still commands a relatively high level of popularity.