EC resolves to dissolve Democrat

PAG · 12-04-2010, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by JoeMoer

Now, what if this case takes a further 2 years to go through the courts? What does this do to the current impasse?

How can vejj be forced from office in the interim? What if he decides to continue stalling for time?

I somehow think that the eventual ruling is going to be fast tracked on this occasion. I also don't believe the UDD will abandon their current protests.

Interestingly, now an hour since this latest news broke, and not a single comment or mention in the Bangkok Post yet.

**Norton** · 12-04-2010, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by JoeMoer

what if this case takes a further 2 years to go through the courts?

Believe you're going to see a world speed record in processing this case.

JoeMoer · 12-04-2010, 07:17 PM

The crowd at the UDD rallies went ballistic. It would be nice to see an elegant final touch, with vejj on a flight back to his birth country.

PAG · 12-04-2010, 07:21 PM

Finally, from the BKK Post (but in truth quite a bit better than the original 'flash' that came from The Nation:

Breakingnews » Breakingnews
Democrat Party faces dissolution
Published: 12/04/2010 at 07:10 PM
Online news: Breakingnews

The Election Commission on Monday decided with a vote of 4-1 to dissolve the ruling Democrat Party in connection with the 258 million baht donation case and the alleged misuse of a 29 million baht political development fund provided by the EC.

The decision was made in a special meeting of the EC, chaired by Apichart Sukhagganond, who presented his proposal to the commission for consideration. It was Sodsri Sattayatham, a commissioner, who revealed earlier the meeting would be held today.

In December last year, the EC resolved for Mr Apichart, as the political party registrar, to decide whether to propose the dissolution of the Democrat Party.

The decision dealt a severe blow on the Democrat Party, whose leader and Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva has been under pressure from the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) to immediately dissolve the House of Representatives to make way for a new election.

The red shirts at the Ratchaprasong intersection, roared with joy on hearing the news from their leader Veera Musikhapong, who said he hoped the case would be proceeded quickly.

Thousands of UDD's red shirts on April 5 converged on the EC headquarters on Chaeng Wattana road and accused the commission of the dragging the case against the Democrat Party. Bowing to the UDD's demand, the EC said it would come up with a decision by April 20.

After today's decision, the EC will forward its decision to the Office of the Attorney General. The OAG will then has 30 days to decide the case. If the OAG's decision contradicts that of the EC, a joint committee would be set up to consider the case. If the OAG agrees with the EC, it will refer the case to the Constitution Court for a final decision.

The Democrat Party has been accused of receiving more than 258 million baht in illegal donations from TPI Polene for use in the 2005 general election without declaring it. The party was also accused of misusing the Politics Development Fund worth 29 million baht.

TPI Polene, a cement firm, was alleged to have made donations totalling 258 million baht to the Democrats through Messiah Business and Creation Co, an advertising company.

The party faces dissolution and its executives could be banned from politics for five years if it is found guilty by the Constitution Court of illegally receiving the donation.

**helge** · 12-04-2010, 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by Mr Lick

I understand the 'others' PAG, but what i don't really understand is that why those 'others' don't wish the military to crush the Thaksin supporters, after all they were instrumental in the 2006 coup to oust Mr T. Why are they backing off now? Why are they caving in to the demands of the redshirts unless of course it is merely a temporary stance with false promises in order to restore peace to the capital asap.

Yes, confusing, but the whole situation IS bad for buisness

**dirtydog** · 12-04-2010, 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by PAG

The OAG will then has 30 days

Originally Posted by PAG

If the OAG agrees with the EC, it will refer the case to the Constitution Court for a final decision.

Months away yet then.

Originally Posted by PAG

banned from politics for five years if it is found guilty

Isn't thai love thai banned still? so a few more years before a general election?

**noelbino** · 12-04-2010, 07:30 PM

What the fuck?? This country deserves to be in the 3rd world.

JoeMoer · 12-04-2010, 07:30 PM

It seems that vejj may still have time to see out his term.

With yellow shirts now threatening to re-enter the arena, a time of ongoing national stress seems to be ahead. Somehow, the yellow shirts always seem to come out on cue, and with a large bankroll.

**jumnien** · 12-04-2010, 07:40 PM

My Thai wife understands Thai politics a lot more than I do and her political instincts are pointing in the direction of the one man that all Thais respect. What's his name again honey? Oh, Bird Thongchai!

**jumnien** · 12-04-2010, 07:44 PM

Looks like he's really a Vejj-etable now. Harvested, cooked and consumed. He will enjoy his new life in the English countryside!

**Bangyai** · 12-04-2010, 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by StrontiumDog

Either way it is typically Thai and highly convenient...unless you're Abhisit. Sadly for him his brief tenure is going to be looked upon as an abject failure.

A bit of a face saver even for Abhisit in as much as its the Democrats who have run foul of the law rather than him personaly.

Nonetheless, he and his advisors underestimated the resolve of the reds ( as did many ) , expecting the protest to run out of steam like all the others. I am sure he will be feeling his ' friends ' let him down but now will have to get used to being just another x PM.

As for the EC, they could have made this decision weeks ago but a lot of blood has had to be spilt to make it happen. TIT

**Norton** · 12-04-2010, 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by JoeMoer

It seems that vejj may still have time to see out his term.

Stick a fork in him he's done, Joe.

The banning of Democrat party will run through the system in record time.

He has zero support from the cops or Army.

He will be left holding the bag and forced to accede to UDD demands 100%. UDD won't budge until he does.

This is what comes of accepting a job offered by snakes. Shame really as his only real mistake was accepting the position in the first place.

**mao say dung** · 12-04-2010, 07:56 PM

I really don't see this as such a positive outcome.

And I don't believe speed records will be set getting this through the courts.

I think that the Reds would be making a show of gullibility if they call it all off because of a bogus-sounding move like this.

Primarily because it smacks of another non-political "solution" to a political problem, which is just another way the elite has of avoiding allowing democratic procedures to dominate in the governing of the country. The last two party dissolutions have been referred to, accurately in my opinion, as "judicial coups".

There is also the time factor: this could stretch into months as it moves to the AG's office and then to the Constitutional Court. You have got to remember that the Thai powers-that-be do not really see the Reds as a "political" force, much like many posters here, and they are not exactly quick to change how they see the world. "Throw the dogs a bogus-bone and they'll go home". Like your maid seems likely to have enough brainpower to see through this? Not likely.

The Dems have been the Royalist-Military "democratic facade" of choice for so long that it is verging on impossible that this party and its executives could face the same ignominious fate as "scum" like Thaksin and his gang.

JoeMoer · 12-04-2010, 07:56 PM

Well, well. You know, I'm floored.

My wife just pointed out a funeral for fallen soldiers. Everyone attended including an important person's partner and masciline sprog. The commentary was that they died for the service of amart. (How else to flippin' say it?)

Not a word of condolences for the red shirt fallen - not a single word.

If people do not understand the root meaning of all of this, then so be it. I'm shocked to my very core.

**mao say dung** · 12-04-2010, 08:00 PM

^Got a link? I'd like to read about this.

Where did your wife hear/see this?

JoeMoer · 12-04-2010, 08:02 PM

On thai TV - I saw it too. Around 15 minutes back. I'm told it was Channel 5.

**lom** · 12-04-2010, 08:07 PM

Originally Posted by JoeMoer

If people do not understand the root meaning of all of this, then so be it. I'm shocked to my very core.

Not unexpected paddy so can't understand why it shocks you.
Now watch the growth of the sprog in the coming weeks

**Norton** · 12-04-2010, 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by mao say dung

I think that the Reds would be making a show of gullibility if they call it all off because of a bogus-sounding move like this.

The reds aren't going anywhere because of the EC's announcement. With or without it the government is going to be forced to step down and quickly.

**mao say dung** · 12-04-2010, 08:22 PM

How much ya wanna bet?

JoeMoer · 12-04-2010, 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by lom

Originally Posted by JoeMoer

If people do not understand the root meaning of all of this, then so be it. I'm shocked to my very core.

Not unexpected paddy so can't understand why it shocks you.
Now watch the growth of the sprog in the coming weeks

I think what floored me was the blatant callousness of the whole thing. What world do they live in?

**The Ghost Of The Moog** · 12-04-2010, 08:50 PM

Thaksin Shinawatra must be booking his plane tickets as we speak.

I wonder how much Anupong and the other top Generals dealt for? It was money well spent.

**wefearourdespot** · 12-04-2010, 08:55 PM

meanwhile I will gloat over all the yellow stuck up the arse Thaivisa crowd

**mao say dung** · 12-04-2010, 08:58 PM

I think you guys are making too much of this.

**benbaaa** · 12-04-2010, 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by jumnien

{Vejj} will enjoy his new life in the English countryside!

I believe the weather in England at this time of year is, er, superior.

**The Ghost Of The Moog** · 12-04-2010, 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by benbaaa

Originally Posted by jumnien

{Vejj} will enjoy his new life in the English countryside!

I believe the weather in England at this time of year is, er, superior.

Perhaps he can live in Smeg's shed.

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