INTERVIEW
Red shirts fighting for 'genuine democracy'
By Samatcha Hoonsara
February 16, 2009
Now that former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra has vowed to fight his opponents till the end, Natthawut Saikua, a programme host on DTV satellite TV, gives an interview to The Nation's Samatcha Hoonsara, saying the entire country will definitely turn red.
How ready are the Democratic Alliance Against Dictatorship and red-shirted people for waging war?
We are not worried about numbers. The number of red-shirted people is increasing every day. We have several channels of communication, such as DTV, which invites red-shirted people from all provinces to talk on TV. Each rally will have more demonstrators than a rally of the People's Alliance for Democracy, and the entire country will turn red. Those who will attend our rallies love democracy and are liberal people who will not take orders from anyone. I am confident that we are now on the right path.
Will DAAD make parallel moves with those of the Pheu Thai Party. Where will the two converge?
Such a convergence may or may not happen because the DAAD aims not only to topple the government but also to destroy the influential power beyond the Constitutional Monarchy. So, the government is only the first milestone for the red-shirted people. If the government is brought down, the DAAD will continue the campaign until genuine democracy returns to the country.
Some members of society see the red shirts as fighting for Thaksin instead?
First, for the red-shirted people, former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra is the symbol of democracy in which the people's power was used for the benefits of the society. There has never been such a leader in Thai politics so the masses have faith in him. And now, Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva is copying the methods of Thaksin.
Second, Thaksin has not received justice because his government was toppled by the power outside the system. That power abused the judicial process to persecute him. The red-shirted people believe the penalties against Thaksin were unjustified because his opponents were appointed to investigate him.
Society suspects the red shirts receive orders and financial support from Thaksin?
This is an old allegation that has existed since the September 19 coup. If the red shirts are regarded as having received support from Thaksin, the Democrat Party should also be regarded as supporting the PAD.
Thaksin now has financial difficulties because his assets are frozen. Despite this situation, the number of DAAD members keeps rising. Political analysts should open their eyes and should visit our rallies to see them with their own eyes. The red shirts have gone beyond the issue of the former prime minister. Even if Thaksin halts his political role and takes refuge on Mars, the DAAD will not disband until we get real democracy.
Have Thaksin and his aides taken care of the expenses of the red shirts?
No, I affirm. I held fairs to sell goods and we saved the profits as funds for future campaigns. Some income came from donations of anonymous people and many ordinary people in provinces, who don't like what happened during the past three years. Even judges joined our rallies.
Members of the Shinawatra and Damapong families and former Thai Rak Thai executives, who are close to Thaksin, also joined in rallies. So, how could you deny the DAAD has not received support from Thaksin?
These people have faith in our campaigns and they don't like the power outside the system. They have their rights to agree or disagree with us. The DAAD was born because of the existence of the CNS [Council for National Security] and the red-shirted people were born because of the existence of the yellow-shirted people.
Will the red shirts be able to fight?
Definitely. We may take a long time and a lot of patience but we are on the right path and we will not lose.
We will not use the same methods as the PAD. We'll build a different democracy than that of the PAD, which is bent on destroying.
Our way prompted the people, who have faith in Thaksin, to join us because they could not tolerate some people who received non-democratic power interfering in democracy.
An important goal of the red-shirted people is to bring Thaksin back to the country, isn't it?
We want the former prime minister to return to defend himself in a genuine justice system, not the current justice system.
How will you achieve the goal?
I repeat we must first bring down this government. This is our first goal. Then, we will take care of the power outside the system. Then, justice and democracy will return to the country.
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