Thread: Hong Kong-Thai woman stabbed to death in her luxurious house in London

Originally Posted by 39TG

That's what I was thinking as it seems Thai girls rock his boat. Our friends in Pattaya should be wary of new arrivals from the UK.

She most likely knew her assailant, as her doorbell technology showed her who was at the door.

She's also relatively wealthy.

I'd guess it's most likely that her assailant, who swiftly left the UK, was Thai.

^

Miss Marples is on the case!

The flat was rented and let out for AirBnB ‘parties’ which suggests a commercial enterprise rooted in the provision of leisure activities.

These attractive and more exotic companions do command a premium in the market aimed at a clientele who consider £1000 -£2000 per night as reasonable.

But then again, she could be rich and the victim of a crime of passion.

I reckon an Arab or south Asian.

police report today that they have given up looking for the murderer as they are certain he has left the country and there is no chance of identifying or locating him.

thats the met police, mayor khans lot.

too lazy, too stupid, too woke, too fat and too busy protecting disruptive protestors to chase murderers, arrest shoplifters, car thieves or any other of the criminal scum that wander the streets unchallenged.

Originally Posted by taxexile

thats the met police, mayor khans lot.

too lazy, too stupid, too woke, too fat and too busy protecting disruptive protestors to chase murderers, arrest shoplifters, car thieves or any other of the criminal scum that wander the streets unchallenged

a model soon to be rolled out nationwide, i imagine seeking botty wrote the manual for the back office staff too.

Did they release the suspects name yet?

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

The flat was rented and let out for AirBnB ‘parties’ which suggests a commercial enterprise rooted in the provision of leisure activities.

These attractive and more exotic companions do command a premium in the market aimed at a clientele who consider £1000 -£2000 per night as reasonable.

But then again, she could be rich and the victim of a crime of passion.

I reckon an Arab or south Asian.

I'm going with Arab

Originally Posted by taxexile

police report today that they have given up looking for the murderer as they are certain he has left the country and there is no chance of identifying or locating him.

thats the met police, mayor khans lot.

too lazy, too stupid, too woke, too fat and too busy protecting disruptive protestors to chase murderers, arrest shoplifters, car thieves or any other of the criminal scum that wander the streets unchallenged.

Are you suffering another episode Tax?

According to most reports the police are currently looking for a named individual and in connection thereto are seeking advice from the CPS on a possible extradition or commission rogatoire.

You really are becoming more deranged by the week. I do hope you are taking your medication as directed.

Indeed.

They are investigating a specific individual with a view to extradition.

Complete crap from taxexile as usual and note how voraciously numpt jumped in to support his wittering.

Originally Posted by Bonecollector

I'm going with Arab

Not sure of the relevance.

Are you trying to give Edmond some competition?

However, when asked by Senior Coroner Prof Fiona Wilcox whether anyone was to be imminently charged with Ms Thiamphanit’s murder, Det Ch Insp Foxwell revealed that the suspect had fled the country.

She said: “I think it unlikely anyone will be imminently charged. We are requesting with the CPS [Crown Prosecution Service] whether we have sufficient evidence to extradite someone from outside the UK, so I think it unlikely.”

Prof Wilcox granted permission for Ms Thiamphanit’s body to be released to her family.

She added that Ms Thiamphanit – whose identity was confirmed via police fingerprint screening – was born in Thailand, was single and worked in property management.

The CPS will do nothing. Extradition procedures are too much like hard work for the work from home civil servants of the CPS. If the suspect is a Thai, then they have no chance of getting him, Thailand would never extradite one of their own, unless he is an impoverished somchai, and good luck getting a chinese extradited from say HK.

Usual drivel from Tax.

The police have identified a named person of interest who has since returned seemingly to a country of his citizenship which is why they informed the coroner no imminent arrest was likely given an extradition request will be necessary.
Extradition cases are relatively straightforward but are complex in procedural terms and of course subject to, inter alia, an existing extradition treaty, the availability of sufficient evidence to support a prima facie case justifying the extradition request and the willingness of the requested state to cooperate in the execution of a commission rogatoire.

The UK and Thailand have an extradition treaty and relatively recently a British national was extradited by the Westminster Mags. Court to Thailand to face a murder trial.

The thing is, in order to establish a prima facie case one must have evidence implicating the identified suspect and at the very least DNA will be critical never mind all the rest but an interview under caution will be imperative and that will be subject to the host country’s cooperation.

The case of the Pakistani extradition implicated in the murder of P.C. Beshanivskiy in 2005 attests to the doggedness of the process. The authorities pursued it over 19 years before extraditing him back to England last month.

Essentially, it is a simple system: police investigate, gather evidence, compile report and submit to the Extradition Unit, CPS who will draft the extradition request for submission via the Home Office. A request should only be made if the case is trial ready.

Tax, are you alright?. You know nothing of the subject yet you are wittering on as if you are a menopausal Welsh biddy with your hair on fire.

The UK and Thailand have an extradition treaty

indeed they do, but like the treaty we have with the usa, it is very much a one way street as we send ours to languish in american high security jails awaiting trial on the flimsiest of evidence whilst the americans refuse to honour our requests ... the woman who killed the cyclist in yorkshire, was whisked out of the country one night by the yanks on a military aircraft country after being interviewed and spuriously claimed to be a diplomat as soon as we asked for her return.

do you seriously think the thais would send a thai back to the uk?

you live in a fucking dream world of nonsensical, wily and timewasting legalese bullshit. you must have been a civil servant before you retired.

^Are you referring to the Anne Sacoolas case? It occurred outside RAF Croughton in Northants and she was a diplomat's wife.

Looks like your usual mixture of half truths and distortion of facts.

Originally Posted by Troy

^Are you referring to the Anne Sacoolas case? It occurred outside RAF Croughton in Northants and she was a diplomat's wife.

Looks like your usual mixture of half truths and distortion of facts.

norfolk, not yorkshire. my mistake.

she did not have diplomatic immunity.

The government has stepped up its lies about immunity in the Sacoolas case to a breathtaking degree. I genuinely am astounded by the sheer audacity of the lies now being told, including a staggeringly mendacious FCO-briefed BBC article yesterday stating that “23,000 individuals in the UK have diplomatic immunity” and that it extends to “drivers and cooks”. This follows up the breathtaking FCO statement to Sky News that RAF Croughton “is regarded as an annex to the US Embassy in London” – a total falsehood.

What I cannot understand is why. The entire incident is extremely strange. On the face of it, Harry Dunn’s death was a tragic accident caused by somebody who had not long been in the UK driving on the wrong side of the road. This dreadful mistake is forgivable, as Harry’s very sensible parents have said; there seems little reason to believe the justice system would have been more harsh. There was no conceivable need to run away. That is what they cannot forgive.

Make no mistake; the spiriting of the Sacoolas family out of the UK was a considered act by the US Government and, in the case of a manslaughter in an allied state, the decision not to waive immunity would have been taken right at the top of the State Department. Make no mistake about it either, the FCO would have been informed and complicit in the decision and has only pretended to protest after massive public pressure, got up by Harry’s admirable family a full three weeks after the incident had been, the government would have hoped, successfully buried.

But why? It should be stated that it is the norm to waive diplomatic immunity in serious cases between allied or friendly developed states, where each has confidence in the other’s justice system. Unless the accident did not happen as stated, or there is a Chris Huhne type blame switch involved (Trump yesterday very carefully made the point that cameras had confirmed the identity of the driver – I was not sure why he brought this up when nobody had questioned it), it is very hard to understand why diplomatic immunity has been insisted on in this case. Assuming that Anne Sacoolas was the driver and the incident was as described, the only explanation I can think of is that it was hoped by getting them out the country to avoid all publicity and scrutiny of Jonathon Sacoolas’ real job, which is to spy on British citizens communications’ for GCHQ, who face legal impediments in doing so.

I would like to be able to say that if that cover-up is the plan, it has backfired, except that the media has unanimously censored all reporting of what Sacoolas actually does in the UK. Which is quite extraordinary given the massive but (deliberately) wildly misleading coverage of this case. I wish there were many more places than here you could come to learn the truth, but there are not. In which context, it is worth noting that both Buzzfeed and the Huffington Post have joined the DSMA Notice Committee and become willing tools of the UK security services.

After I pointed out that Sacoolas does not appear on the Diplomatic List, does not hold diplomatic rank and is not accredited to a diplomatic mission, and therefore cannot be a “diplomatic agent” under the Vienna Convention, the FCO first admitted this and claimed his immunity stemmed from a separate bilateral agreement, as reported by Sky News.

Having negotiated many international agreements in my time in the FCO, I know that they need to be given effect in UK domestic law, usually by Order in Council. I therefore searched for legislation giving the Secretary of State authority to grant immunity from criminal prosecution under bilateral agreements for spy bases, and I could find nothing. The legal basis for granting immunities under the Vienna Convention is the Diplomatic Privileges Act 1964, which enacted it into UK legislation. The legal basis for granting military immunity under Status of Forces Agreements, or for NATO personnel, is clear and set out in the Visiting Forces Act of 1952.

I could find nothing that would give legal powers to a Secretary of State to grant immunity to US spies on military bases working on communications interception of UK citizens. No legislation was passed to give legal effect in the UK to the reputed bilateral agreements which cover this.

I therefore wrote to the FCO asking for a copy of the bilateral agreement under which Sacoolas has immunity, and a copy of the UK legislation giving the authority to grant the immunity to the Secretary of State. I have not received any reply, but apparently it concentrated minds because the FCO has now switched to make an aggressive – and nonsensical – assertion that Sacoolas is a diplomat in terms of the Vienna Convention.

Not only that, the FCO’s admission to Mark Stephens, reported in that original article by Sky News, that Sacoolas was not a diplomat under the Vienna Convention has been expunged from history. The Sky News defence correspondent Alistair Bunkall had tweeted a reply to me copying this report, as evidence there was no DSMA notice controlling the reporting of the Sacoolas case.
The Foreign Office Must Be Challenged Over Sacoolas' Immunity - Craig Murray

civil servants twisting the truth and sucking american cock.

The case you cite concerns the requested return of an NSA spouse and therefore could not be permitted under any circumstances for very obvious reasons not least the avoidance of setting a precedent. Besides, the nature of the offence and its likely tariff on conviction would not have resulted in a custodial sentence and therefore was quite trivial.

Yes, a Thai would be extradited to the UK. Thai have been returned to other jurisdictions, notably the Thai woman resident in the US who killed a pedestrian.

The US - UK extradition treaty has its detractors but it is by no means a one way street as evidenced by statistics. The problem arises where Brits break US laws whilst in the UK, usually where US victims have been identified and burdens of proof differ.

You really are coming across as a bit hysterical, Tax. Is it raining again?

What is wrong with being a civil servant, Tax.

Oh, he and numpt just want to bore you half to death with nonsense about your old job.

It's what they do.

What is wrong with being a civil servant,

they are far from civil and rarely serve.

Originally Posted by taxexile

they are far from civil and rarely serve.

As I have said before, I have seldom met an ageing dental practitioner who is not somehow afflicted by an arrogant sociopathy leading to an often isolating inability to relate to normal folk.

I have usually attributed this to a lifetime of dwelling in other mouths, an unnatural and chastening experience, surely, and the not entirely insignificant reality most normal folk will do anything to avoid them. Any pain relief that one might gain from a necessary and compelling encounter with the dentist is now minimised by the fact the visit will be at the cost of an arm and a leg.

Dental surgeons would make excellent serial killers and multiple rapists.

Any pain relief that one might gain from a necessary and compelling encounter with the dentist is now minimised by the fact the visit will be at the cost of an arm and a leg.

it may interest you to know that somewhere in the region of 90% of dental pain is a result of self inflicted neglect.




be true to your teeth, or they will be false to you.

it was a very satisfying profession in many ways, unfortunately the bureaucracy, inefficiency and ineptitude of the NHS and the nit picking pen-pushers they employed to manage the service made it intolerable.

Even minimal standards of care became impossible to provide within the budgets authorised. The financial restraints imposed resulted in the exit of many dedicated professionals to the private sector where up to date treatments of a very high standard could be provided by skilled professionals.

these days people are happy to pay vast amount for their pets to seen by vets, their range rovers are repaired, their i phones and new bathrooms etc.etc.etc. yet whinge incessantly when paying the dentist.

Well this took a turn...