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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    all I have to do is get 100Kg of luggage oop north
    According to Simon, those high tech dolls are very heavy.

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    Congrats Harry.

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    Well I'm now living out of suitcases until Homepro come and build me some furniture, but at least I have a bed, kettle, fridge, TV and fibre interwebnet.

    And let's hope that's the last I'll ever see of quarantine, I must admit I was chomping at the bit to get out at the end there.
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    Still confused and mismanaged regarding the whole entry schemes.

    My friend got Covid abroad, here's what happened when he returned to Thailand - Thai Enquirer

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    Still confused and mismanaged regarding the whole entry schemes.

    My friend got Covid abroad, here's what happened when he returned to Thailand - Thai Enquirer
    What did I miss?
    I dont get the point of this article, it seems to be trying to make the point that it is irresponsibility that is spreading the Omicron variant, yet the "friend" seems to have done the responsible thing. He had the PCR test and it was negative, and though his contact tested positive, the article it's self states that he did not have close contact with him. "was never in close proximity. They had met in a open environment and with masks the whole time"

    " According to my friend, the person he was in contact with that likely spread the virus to him was never in close proximity. They had met in a open environment and with masks the whole time."

    First, there is no evidence that he got it from his friend, if Omicron is so transmissible then it is possible, even probable , that he got it from someone else he had closer contact with.

    "Third, the reason that the virus keeps spreading is that there is a lack of any sort of responsibility as people continue to drop their guard against the pandemic because they think that it’s over. "

    No doubt it has a part to play, but I thought the virus kept spreading because the Omicron variant was resistant to vaccines, and resided in the upper raspatory system making it more transmissible when sneezing, coughing, and or breathing. .

    "Finally, the last point that should be made is that the vaccines work. My friend was one of those people that were skeptical of the MRNA vaccines like Pfizer and Moderna. As he has a lot of friends that are Thai doctors, he heard horror stories about how it was gene therapy and that the technology was too new to be trusted.
    As a result, he ended up getting two Sinovac and one AstraZeneca booster. Even these two “lesser” vaccines have helped him fight the disease as he has only mild symptoms with slight coughing the most worrying ailment. "

    The vaccine works to lessen the severity of the infection, but obviously not the infection to a great extend.
    The sooner you fall behind, the more time you have to catch up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    And let's hope that's the last I'll ever see of quarantine
    You'll enjoy conversing with your TIO soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhOh View Post
    You'll enjoy conversing with your TIO soon.
    What are you fucking wittering about now?

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    I have it on good authority that there is a fair chance the Test & Go & Come back & Test Again & Go Again nonsense will disappear in early March in favour of a PCR test before flying, a vaccination certificate (not sure if two doses or two + booster) and insurance.

    Which would be welcome to many I'm sure.

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    ^Thailand has to decrease its requirements if it wants to compete with its neighbours.

    Cambodia is open, Bali is open, PH reopened on Feb 10 (pre-flight RT-PCR test, vax card, insurance, online One Health Pass + QR code), Malaysia is reopening on March 1, Vietnam (possibly) reopening by March 15.

    Malaysia is partially open now (Langkawi travel bubble - similar to Phuket sandbox).

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    Insurance for covid here is a money gouging exercise, particularly those who intend to resume their residence.

    Essentially, if you have been triple vaccinated you have scarcely a 2% chance of requiring hospitalisation in the event of contracting infection. Nevertheless, farang will have to indemnify to a minimum level of US$100,000 for a period of one year which for those over 65 years of age will incur a premium of, say, 80,000 - 100,000 baht. And for those aged over 70 the prospect of gaining cover is greatly prejudiced and unlikely to be achieved for much under 150,000 baht, if one could find an insurer willing to take the risk. The international big players such as CIGNA ALLIANZ, etc will charge, typically, £6000-£8,000 for applicants aged 70+ but at least the benefit will be more realistic - the current ratio of premium/benefit offered by Thai companies is total shit given in Sterling terms a policy indemnifying costs capped at £73,000 will be charged at £2000+.

    And those residents over the age of 80 will in fact either have to reconcile themselves to being a prisoner or to accept they will not be able to return or face the prospect of paying a "visa" fee of thousands.
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    The Thai authorities, and probably the average Thai for that matter, are still somewhat behind the curve, as indeed are many Thai "pundits" as exampled in Jeff's link.

    Omicron is already endemic in Thailand. You cannot protect yourself from infection unless you are a hermit. It is a mutation that poses little or no threat for those vaccinated. Restricting infection among the general population has no effect upon the virus - it is a virus that emulates the common cold and influenza. COVID 19 and its mutations will be a fact of life. Regular vaccination for all is the future.

    I don't know anyone in the UK whose family has not been infected with Omicron.

    The statistics are such that the entire population will have been infected in the UK in the next couple of months.

    Requiring PCR tests before travelling is quite simply stupid.

    But then, stupidity is the lingua franca here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    will disappear in early March
    I have delayed any hotel bookings etc waiting for this clusterfuk to disappear

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    Welcome back to the LOS , like marriage the entry is but the start.
    I hope you enjoy your stay and continue to contribute.

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    I have it on good authority that there is a fair chance the Test & Go & Come back & Test Again & Go Again nonsense will disappear in early March in favour of a PCR test before flying, a vaccination certificate (not sure if two doses or two + booster) and insurance.

    Which would be welcome to many I'm sure.
    that would be very welcome indeed seeing as we have flights booked for the end of march, although we will hold off collating all the paperwork for a couple of weeks in the hope of some relaxation of the entry requirements.

    by the way, was it the pizza delivery boy or your cleaner that let you in on the latest from government house?

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    Quote Originally Posted by taxexile View Post
    reuters



    that would be very welcome indeed seeing as we have flights booked for the end of march, although we will hold off collating all the paperwork for a couple of weeks in the hope of some relaxation of the entry requirements.

    by the way, was it the pizza delivery boy or your cleaner that let you in on the latest from government house?
    Sorry but one has to protect one's sources. Especially from mouthy c u n t s like you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    I have it on good authority that there is a fair chance the Test & Go & Come back & Test Again & Go Again nonsense will disappear in early March in favour of a PCR test before flying, a vaccination certificate (not sure if two doses or two + booster) and insurance.

    Which would be welcome to many I'm sure.
    Perhaps coming to their senses.
    I wouldn't bet on any action that defies them from underhanded financial benefit.

    We'll see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuangLao View Post
    Perhaps coming to their senses.
    I wouldn't bet on any action that defies them from underhanded financial benefit.

    We'll see.
    Depends who "them" is, and whether they're suffering from the dearth of tourists.

    Certainly hotel and mall owners would welcome the change, they're not exactly coining it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    Nevertheless, farang will have to indemnify to a minimum level of US$100,000 for a period of one year which for those over 65 years of age
    This has been at the back of my mind for some time as a potential problem for the future. If I need to buy 'full'' medical insurance and then pay a second fat wedge for separate Covid insurance then the costs of living here will become prohibitive.

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    Pretty accurate I'd say.

    Thailand quarantine and entry conditions-vgltlnbsbwi81-jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shutree View Post
    a potential problem for the future.
    If your intention is to remain in Thailand based on a Retirement Visa/Extension of Stay.

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    ^For once... correct.

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    Thailand needs to change its "test & go plus test & go" scheme if it wants to compete with its neighbours.

    Cambodia & the Philippines only require RT-PCR test, insurance and vax cert, no more test or quarantine upon arrival.

    Malaysia will open by March 1, Vietnam by March 15. I'm not sure what all their requirements are, but from what I've heard/ read, both countries also require vax cert, RT-PCR test & insurance. Bali is open & has similar requirements but there's still quarantine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shutree View Post
    This has been at the back of my mind for some time as a potential problem for the future. If I need to buy 'full'' medical insurance and then pay a second fat wedge for separate Covid insurance then the costs of living here will become prohibitive.
    The new insurance requirement for Non-Imm OA has obviously buggered some people. I met a neighbour for the first time the other day and within a minute he was whinging about it, with no prompting.

    "I might have to leave" he said.

    I resisted the temptation to say "Good".

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    Quote Originally Posted by katie23 View Post
    Thailand needs to change its "test & go plus test & go" scheme if it wants to compete with its neighbours.
    It's looking increasingly likely that they will either at this or next Friday's CCSA meeting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harrybarracuda View Post
    It's looking increasingly likely that they will either at this or next Friday's CCSA meeting.
    We are flying out of Thailand April 3rd heading for Greece for the summer and we don't even need a PCR test if we have the Thai international covid app in our phone , which we do.
    I am sure by the time we comeback at the end of the summer Thailand will have done away with all this nonsense
    Didn't you just come to Thailand last May? when did you leave?
    I got to start paying attention LOL

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