The COVID-2019 Thread

[Buckaroo Banzai]

Our dear neighbours are it seems looking to expand their remit to block supplies to other countries other than the UK.

Its fair to say they are doubling down on their fuk ups and the perfrct little world inside the Block as espoused by SeekignAReturnToTheUK is looking remarkably like we all knew it; run by a bunch of career politicians, paid whether they fail or not, their own ltltle Vaccine centre in Brussels to visit when they aren't sitting in the war room looking for other countries to blame and all the while Rome, Paris et al burns.

Whatever the case, if they escallate, the consequences will live long in diplomatic minds.

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Nonsense!!
The percentage of vaccinated people in the UK is over 43% and in the EU les than 15% and the EU should send their vaccine to the UK?
What kind of weed do they smoke in the UK, 'cause it's got to be good shit!!

[strigils]

Nonsense!!
The percentage of vaccinated people in the UK is over 43% and in the EU les than 15% and the EU should send their vaccine to the UK?
What kind of weed do they smoke in the UK, 'cause it's got to be good shit!!

Erm, BB you do realise that just because a commericial companies facility in sited in a country that it doesn't meam that country owns it or its production, its not the soviet era timothy. Its private business with commerial arrangements under contract law.

I'll also point out that the UK largely funded the AZ development and also insisted as a result that it was not for profit, unlike certain other drug makers who have done very nicely out of COVID.

[Buckaroo Banzai]

Erm, BB you do realise that just because a commericial companies facility in sited in a country that it doesn't meam that country owns it or its production, its not the soviet era timothy. Its private business with commerial arrangements under contract law.

I'll also point out that the UK largely funded the AZ development and also insisted as a result that it was not for profit, unlike certain other drug makers who have done very nicely out of COVID.

It does not own it, but it does regulate it. I am sure the EU would not do anything that was not with in it's charter to regulate exports ,otherwise AZ would take them to court and win.

[strigils]

Well it obviously can control exports under emergency powers and its obviously trying to flex those to be seen to be doing something to look proactive but it all belies the fact that the uk had commercial arrangements in place with AZ , provided a significant proportion of developement costs, put in place the framework for approvals all whilst the comittee in the EU was having their lunches at its members expense.They finally get their shit together and find they aren't first in the queue worse still whilst complaining about how unfair all this is they then jump on every tiny bit of doubt cast about AZs vaccine, not once but twice and panic the public, tarnish the vaccines image to the degree that doses are piling up as a result and now have to go on a charm offensive to convince the public AZ is safe whilst it enacts export bans to cover up fuk up number 1. Did i miss anything appart from you being from a country which would tell the EU to fuk off if they tried the same as they are with the UK .

[Joe 90]

A £5,000 fine for anyone in England trying to travel abroad without good reason is due to come into force next week as part of new coronavirus laws.

The penalty is included in legislation that will be voted on by MPs on Thursday.

Foreign holidays are currently not allowed under the "stay at home" rule which ends on Monday.

Prime Minister Boris Johnson said it was "too early" to set out new foreign travel rules for the summer.

Mr Johnson told a Downing Street news conference he hoped for more information by 5 April.

He said: "A lot of people do want to know about what's going to happen on the holiday front and I know there's a great deal of curiosity and interest."

From next week the ban on leaving the UK will become a specific law, backed up by the threat of a fine.

Under the current plan for easing restrictions, the earliest date people in England could go abroad for a holiday would be 17 May.

It comes as another surge in Covid cases in continental Europe, as well as the slow rollout of vaccines across Europe, casts doubt on the resumption of holidays abroad.

When can I go on holiday abroad or in the UK?
PM: Covid third wave will 'wash up on our shores'
Summer holidays abroad 'extremely unlikely'
The PM's announcement on travelling abroad from England will be made sooner than expected - a taskforce looking into the issue had been scheduled to report back by 12 April.

But it is understood the timings in the roadmap for easing lockdown - including the 17 May date - will remain unchanged.

Government adviser Prof Neil Ferguson, of Imperial College London, told BBC Radio 4's World at One border measures should be relaxed more slowly than domestic restrictions.

He said: "I think conservatively, and being risk averse at the moment, I think we should be planning on summer holidays in the UK not overseas."

[Buckaroo Banzai]

Well it obviously can control exports under emergency powers and its obviously trying to flex those to be seen to be doing something to look proactive but it all belies the fact that the uk had commercial arrangements in place with AZ , provided a significant proportion of developement costs, put in place the framework for approvals all whilst the comittee in the EU was having their lunches at its members expense.They finally get their shit together and find they aren't first in the queue worse still whilst complaining about how unfair all this is they then jump on every tiny bit of doubt cast about AZs vaccine, not once but twice and panic the public, tarnish the vaccines image to the degree that doses are piling up as a result and now have to go on a charm offensive to convince the public AZ is safe whilst it enacts export bans to cover up fuk up number 1. Did i miss anything appart from you being from a country which would tell the EU to fuk off if they tried the same as they are with the UK .

Even though the UK might have a contract , such contract does not trump the charter AZ operates with in the EU. The UK and AZ might take the EU to what ever forum is available for resolving such disputes, and if they win in the next three or four years I am sure they will get all the Covid 19 vaccine the resolution allows them. They might have to rename it the Covid 2024 vaccine, but that should be an easy matter. LOL
Such are politics my friend.

[panama hat]

A £5,000 fine for anyone in England trying to travel abroad without good reason is due to come into force next week as part of new coronavirus laws.

Yup, previously posted and you even commented on it, post https://teakdoor.com/thailand-and-as...l#post4235098: (The COVID-2019 Thread)

Thank God, this'll keep the Brit-Trash on their vile island and out of the EU. Success on both sides.


COVID-19: Holidaying abroad will mean a £5k fine under new coronavirus laws set to come in next week

New COVID laws will mean £5k fines for taking a foreign holiday and more protests will be allowed.

Attempting to take a holiday abroad will result in a £5,000 fine under new coronavirus laws.
The legislation covering COVID-19 restrictions includes a ban on leaving the UK without a reasonable excuse - with the hefty fine for those breaking the rule.

New rules will also mean protests will be considered a permitted exception to the ban on mass gatherings.

MPs will vote on the laws - officially titled the Health Protection (Coronavirus, Restrictions) (Steps) (England) Regulations 2021 - on Thursday.

If approved they would come into effect next Monday - 29 March.
On foreign travel, the new law states that no one can "leave England to travel to a destination outside the United Kingdom, or travel to, or be present at, an embarkation point for the purpose of travelling from there to a destination outside the United Kingdom" without a reasonable excuse.

Fines of £5,000 can be issued to those who break this rule, according to the regulations.
Foreign travel for a holiday is already illegal, but the punishment is a new measure.
A £200 fixed penalty notice can already be issued to those who fail to fill in a travel declaration form, which includes personal details and reason for travel, for those leaving the UK.




COVID-19: Holidaying abroad will mean a PS5k fine under new coronavirus laws set to come in next week | Politics News | Sky News

[panama hat]

It does not own it, but it does regulate it. I am sure the EU would not do anything that was not with in it's charter to regulate exports ,otherwise AZ would take them to court and win.

Of course you're correct, but as usual just more xenophobia and pandering to the lowest common denominator in the UK:

Separately, European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen has threatened to withhold exporting vaccines to the UK and any other countries outside the EU that do not supply doses in a reciprocal way.
"We're still waiting for doses to come from the UK," she said. "So, this is an invitation to show us that there are also doses from the UK coming to the European Union."

It's simply more flag-waving by UK leaders to keep their population's feeble minds off their plight.


Speaking of which:

Covid: EU plans rollout of travel certificate before summer


A digital certificate to kick-start foreign travel should be given to citizens across the EU "without discrimination", officials say.


The aim is to enable anyone vaccinated against Covid-19, or who has tested negative or recently recovered from the virus to travel within the EU.


The 27 member states will decide how to use the new digital certificate.


Vaccine passports have faced opposition from some EU member states over concerns they might be discriminatory.


Some argue that they would enable a minority to enjoy foreign travel without restrictions while others, such as young people who are not seen as a priority for inoculation, continue to face measures such as quarantine. European Commission officials have made clear they want to avoid discrimination.

Another issue raised has been that data on the efficacy of vaccines in preventing a person from carrying or passing on the virus is incomplete.



Ahead of the EU's announcement, the World Health Organization (WHO) said that it was working to "create an international trusted framework" for safe travel, but that vaccinations should not be a condition.


Separately, European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen has threatened to withhold exporting vaccines to the UK and any other countries outside the EU that do not supply doses in a reciprocal way.


"We're still waiting for doses to come from the UK," she said. "So, this is an invitation to show us that there are also doses from the UK coming to the European Union."


What does the certificate mean for EU travel?


Speaking in Brussels on Wednesday, European Justice Commissioner Didier Reynders said the proposed digital green certificate would be "for all EU citizens, their families when they're leaving the EU or living abroad".


"It'll also be for the European Economic Area (EEA), because we want to work with Norway and Iceland," he said, adding that Switzerland would also be involved.


Mr Reynders said there was still a lot to do to put the digital certificate in place, but the aim was to get it up and running before the summer tourist season.



The European Commission proposal sets out that any EU member state permitting vaccinated travellers to bypass restrictions such as quarantine must accept certificates from other states within the bloc under the same conditions.


The vaccines should be approved by the European Medicines Agency (EMA). These currently include drugs developed by Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna, Oxford-AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson, but not Russia's Sputnik V or China's Sinovac and Sinopharm vaccines.


However, the proposal adds that the guidelines "should not prevent member states from deciding to accept vaccination certificates issued for other Covid-19 vaccines".

Meanwhile, in the UK, Business Secretary Kwasi Kwarteng said the government was looking at the idea of vaccine passports and had been "discussing what the best way to proceed is".


"We are having debates, discussions about travel... but I think what we also have to do is be driven by the data, we've got to see how coronavirus develops," he told the BBC.


More than a third of the UK population - nearly 25 million people - have received at least one dose of coronavirus vaccine in the UK, which is no longer a member of the European Union.



The rollout across the EU has been slower, and has been hindered by delayed deliveries as well as the current suspension in several countries of the use of the Oxford-AstraZeneca Covid-19 vaccine over fears of possible side effects.


What do European countries make of the plan?


The economies of countries such as Greece, Spain and Italy are unlikely to recover until the tourist industry is reopened, and they have been looking at ways to save the summer season while providing a safe environment for both travellers and local residents.


Greek Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis on Wednesday welcomed the planned certificate, which he said would "significantly facilitate the movement of citizens and will help boost tourism and the economies that rely heavily on it".


Last month, Greece's Deputy Prime Minister Akis Skertsos said that a common digital certificate was "not discriminatory", and that non-vaccinated tourists could also visit Greece this summer - but the procedure for them would be slower as they would have to be tested and might have to self-isolate on arrival.

Covid: EU plans rollout of travel certificate before summer - BBC News

So . . . Milton Keynes or Rhodos? Leeds or Costa del Sol? Southport or Rimini . . . Lots of choices . . . for some.

[Klondyke]

Putin gets coronavirus vaccine behind closed doors
CNN
Updated 3:02 PM ET, Tue March 23, 2021

Moscow (CNN)Russian President Vladimir Putin received a Covid-19 vaccination on Tuesday without fuss or fanfare according to the Kremlin, more than three months after qualifying to do so.

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told CNN: "Putin was vaccinated against the coronavirus. (He) feels good. Tomorrow he has a full working day."
No video or images of the vaccination process were immediately made available. Earlier, the Kremlin said it would not be a public event, unusual for a Russian leader who frequently poses for the cameras -- sometimes shirtless.

Earlier on Tuesday, Peskov said that the reason the vaccination was not being recorded was because Putin "doesn't like" being vaccinated on camera, before adding, "you will have to take our word for it."

Vladimir Putin vaccinated: Russian President gets Covid-19 shot behind closed doors - CNN

[Klondyke]

Philippines approves emergency use of Russia's Sputnik V vaccine as COVID-19 cases spike

MANILA: The Philippines has approved Russia's Sputnik V COVID-19 vaccine for emergency use, the country's Food and Drug Administration (FDA) said on Friday (Mar 19), as the Southeast Asian country battles a renewed surge in infections.

The vaccine, developed by Russia's Gamaleya Institute, is the fourth to get emergency use authorisation in the Philippines.

"The known and potential benefits of the Gamaleya Sputnik V vaccine ... outweigh the known and potential risks of said vaccine," FDA chief Rolando Enrique Domingo told a news conference.

Interim data showed the two-dose Sputnik V vaccine had an efficacy of 91.6 per cent in age groups 18 and older, Domingo said.

In February, a medical panel in Vietnam recommended the approval of the Sputnik V vaccine.

Philippines approves emergency use of Russia's Sputnik V vaccine as COVID-19 cases spike - CNA

[panama hat]

No video or images of the vaccination process were immediately made available. Earlier, the Kremlin said it would not be a public event, unusual for a Russian leader who frequently poses for the cameras -- sometimes shirtless.

No Cyrillic writing on the vaccine vial?

[strigils]

EU trying to enforce export bans to overide contractual arrangements misses the point that the EU can only control finished product or production material inside the block and such action against countires which supply production material or finished products to the EU may reciprocate but as usual creepy and other EU apologists mis the point in trying to defend the commitee and its actions, institing that pointing out EU failure or idiocy is xenophobia. Sheesh.

[cyrille]

Yup, previously posted and you even commented on it, post https://teakdoor.com/thailand-and-as...l#post4235098: (The COVID-2019 Thread)

Might as well have been in a previous lifetime.

[harrybarracuda]

no cyrillic writing on the vaccine vial?

pҒЇzЄЯ ЪЇФЙГЄҪҤ

[Klondyke]

Philippines approves Russia's Sputnik V vaccine: developer

The developer of Russia's Sputnik V coronavirus vaccine said Friday its shot had been approved for use in the Philippines, becoming the 52nd country to give the green light to the Russian jab.

Russia's sovereign wealth fund, which backed the development of Sputnik V, said in a statement the jab was registered "under the emergency use authorisation procedure."

The Philippines announced this week it plans to close its borders to foreigners beginning March 20 and limit entry to its own citizens to halt the spread of new cases.

The temporary measures come after the number of daily cases hit a seven-month high on Monday.

Moscow's wealth fund, the Russian Direct Investment Fund (RDIF), said the announcement Friday means that now 52 countries with a combined population of 1.4 billion people have approved Sputnik V for use.

Kirill Dmitriev, RDIF's CEO, said in the statement that the Philippines was "among the first to show interest in the Sputnik vaccine after it was registered in Russia".

He added that Sputnik V's registration provides the Philippines "with access to one of the best vaccines, which is already saving lives around the world."

Moscow registered the jab in August before large-scale clinical trials, but leading medical journal The Lancet has since said it is safe and over 90 percent effective.

Some Western countries have been wary of Sputnik V—named after the Soviet-era satellite—over concerns the Kremlin would use it as a soft power tool to advance its interests.

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-03-philippines-russia-sputnik-vaccine.html

[Klondyke]

Some Western countries have been wary of Sputnik V—named after the Soviet-era satellite—over concerns the Kremlin would use it as a soft power tool to advance its interests.

As opposed of the "hard" power tools of others...

[panama hat]

As opposed of the "hard" power tools of others...

Getting old, are you . . .

[OhOh]

Russian President Vladimir Putin receives domestically produced Covid-19 vaccine as nationwide immunization campaign continues

23 Mar, 2021 18:04 / Updated 10 hours ago

By Jonny Tickle



"Vladimir Putin was vaccinated with one of Russia's domestically created Covid-19 jabs in Moscow on Tuesday. It ends months of speculation around whether the 68-year-old president had already been inoculated against the virus.

The Russian leader, who has been noticeably cautious when it comes to Covid-19, is “feeling well,” Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said, adding that Putin has a full working day scheduled for Wednesday.
The Kremlin earlier refused to reveal which formula the president was injected with, noting that Russia has three domestically produced options. It's thought that this was to avoid showing a preference towards one jab, which could have an effect on take up of the other pair.

“We’re deliberately not saying which particular vaccine will be administered to the president, stressing that all three Russian shots are perfectly reliable and effective,” Peskov said on Tuesday.

Unlike many world leaders, Putin has opted not to receive the jab on camera, with Peskov noting that the president “doesn’t like” the idea.

If he has received Sputnik V, the domestic vaccine that is best-known, he will be expected to receive the second dose in three weeks.

Produced by Moscow’s Gamaleya Institute, it was the first Covid-19 vaccine in the world to be registered and has since been authorized for use in more than 50 countries. According to trial data, it is 92% effective.
The two other possible options are CoviVac, made by the Chumakov Center, also in the capital, or EpiVacCorona, produced by Siberia’s Vector Center.

While millions of Sputnik V doses have been produced, just 186,000 doses of EpiVacCorona had been made as of last week. According to test results, all volunteers aged from 18 to 60 developed antibodies after receiving the jab. For the over 60s, that figure dropped to 94%.

Unlike Sputnik V, which works by inserting coronavirus particles into a weakened adenovirus to trigger an immune response, EpiVacCorona uses synthesized particles of the virus instead.

The third vaccine, CoviVac, was registered just last month. On Monday, the Chumakov Center’s Director General Aidar Ishmukhametov revealed that 100,000 doses have been made thus far, with plans in place to produce 10 million a year. CoviVac uses a completely different method to both the two other Russian jabs, employing older ‘whole virus vaccine’ technology."

Russian President Vladimir Putin receives domestically produced Covid-19 vaccine as nationwide immunization campaign continues — RT Russia & Former Soviet Union

[panama hat]

“We’re deliberately not saying which particular vaccine will be administered to the president, stressing that all three Russian shots are perfectly reliable and effective,”

No video or images of the vaccination process were immediately made available. Earlier, the Kremlin said it would not be a public event, unusual for a Russian leader who frequently poses for the cameras -- sometimes shirtless.

No Cyrillic writing on the vaccine vial?

pҒЇzЄЯ ЪЇФЙГЄҪҤ

Ah, nice.

[Klondyke]

Hillary Clinton urges Biden to give Covid-19 vaccines to poor nations, complains that Russia and China lead in 'VACCINE DIPLOMACY'
24 Mar, 2021

Ex-presidential candidate Hillary Clinton has offered unsolicited leadership advice to President Joe Biden, bemoaning the fact he allowed Russia and China to get ahead in "vaccine diplomacy" – giving Covid-19 jabs to poor nations.

"This is the kind of leadership that the United States has historically been known for, which frankly, we should be lifting up and doing more of," Clinton said on Monday in an interview with Foreign Affairs magazine. "And what I'm intrigued by, and a little saddened by, is the way both China and Russia are pushing their vaccines."

Clinton noted that Russia and China are using "vaccine diplomacy" – building goodwill with poor countries by helping them inoculate their populations against Covid-19. "They are going into countries and saying, 'We'll take care of you,'" she said. "And that leaves the United States playing catch-up."

Hillary Clinton urges Biden to give Covid-19 vaccines to poor nations, complains that Russia and China lead in 'VACCINE DIPLOMACY' — RT World News

[Troy]

Yesterday, the German government announced a tightening of lockdown measures over the Easter period. Businesses were also to be closed on Maundy Thursday, giving an extra day's holiday, although I didn't understand if this was to be a Bank Holiday. I guess that was an early April Fool with everyone having to take holiday to cover it.

Anyway, today we learn that it was all a mistake and there won't be any additional lockdown measures for the Easter period despite the rising numbers of Covid infections.

Countries need to be in lockdown until 60% of their population are vaccinated. Otherwise there will be wave upon wave upon wave...

My German colleagues are starting to realise why I call the authorities Vogons...

[strigils]

^ Seems auntie changed her mind, i read that too, i think its a mstake given teh 3rd wave rise i have been reading bout.

[Joe 90]

So it is wrong that the UK stick to their Contracts with an Independent Supplier, but it is okay for the EU to force Independent Suppliers to break their Contracts and horde the vaccines for themselves.

Makes perfect sense I guess if you exist in a mismanaged authoritarian conglomerate of states,

[Buckaroo Banzai]

So it is wrong that the UK stick to their Contracts with an Independent Supplier, but it is okay for the EU to force Independent Suppliers to break their Contracts and horde the vaccines for themselves.

Makes perfect sense I guess if you exist in a mismanaged authoritarian conglomerate of states,

Who ever said that it is wrong for the UK to stick to their contract with an independent supplier? Who is that independent supplier? I was under the impression that all suppliers were dependent to the charter of the jurisdiction they operated under.
Who said that it is OK for the EU to force "Independent" suppliers to do anything? The only suppliers the EU can force to do anything are those who operate with in it's jurisdiction under the rules and regulation of the charter they agreed to operate under.
Suppliers such as AZ.
But if you know if any suppliers that operate within EU jurisdiction that are "Independent" of the EU I am all ears.

[panama hat]

Who ever said that it is wrong for the UK to stick to their contract with an independent supplier? Who is that independent supplier? I was under the impression that all suppliers were dependent to the charter of the jurisdiction they operated under.
Who said that it is OK for the EU to force "Independent" suppliers to do anything? The only suppliers the EU can force to do anything are those who operate with in it's jurisdiction under the rules and regulation of the charter they agreed to operate under.
Suppliers such as AZ.
But if you know if any suppliers that operate within EU jurisdiction that are "Independent" of the EU I am all ears.

Its just Brit-trash anti-Euro whining, as is par for the course. Throwing red herrings, creating strawmen . . . and the woe is me because their economy is going down the shitter.

They should concentrate on the good job they're finally doing now getting their population vaccinated at a massive rate instead of proving themselves to be whingeing poms.

Coronavirus latest news: Joint EU-UK statement insists they are working together for 'win-win' situation on vaccines


The UK and European Commission are working together "to create a win-win situation and expand vaccine supply for all our citizens", according to a joint statement issued this evening.
The statement comes after a day of heightened tensions, following the European Commission's unveiling of new guidelines which limit the export of coronavirus vaccines to countries outside the bloc, prompting fears that Britain's supply could be affected.
But the two parties have insisted that they are in dialogue.
"We are all facing the same pandemic and the third wave makes cooperation between the EU and UK even more important. We have been discussing what more we can do to ensure a reciprocally beneficial relationship between the UK and EU on Covid-19...
"In the end, openness and global cooperation of all countries will be key to finally overcome this pandemic and ensure better preparation for meeting future challenges. We will continue our discussions."
At a lunchtime press conference the European Commission President, Ursula von der Leyen, had said that while "member states are facing a third wave" and "not every company is delivering on contract", it is right for EU states to consider "reciprocity and proportionality" when exporting jabs.
France, Belgium and Iceland have all announced tightened restrictions today as a third wave of Covid-19 takes hold across the continent and the vaccination campaign stutters.

Coronavirus latest news: Joint EU-UK statement insists they are working together for 'win-win' situation on vaccines


h, yes. "reciprocity and proportionality".