Thread: British student who disappeared after a beach party on a Cambodian island

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

the tattoo on her body and the clothes she was last seen in,

As DI 'arry discovered, clothed. As some of said, would an abductor do that?

How many people with tattoos inform the passport office of them?

Originally Posted by OhOh

How many people with tattoos inform the passport office of them?

What the fuck are you on about?

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Extraordinary that she would have drifted unconscious 30 miles up the coast

"Unconscious"?

Christ on a fucking bike.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

It might be a detail you don't have. That can be fixed.



https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a9178866.html



If the cause of death is simply drowning and there is no sign of any violence, they won't bother. Why would they?

I feel for the poor family, but at least they have closure. Imagine if she had never been found?

Because there will be a cohort of British people who will blame Cambodia and the authrities and the locals et al for this. But if they could prove that something about the water vortex carried her out there, then it could be shown that it was just an ill timed swim that killed her. And not sleeping cops and bad locals.

Now we have the usual debate going on Twitter. Hoards of 20 something girls saying its safe to travel anywhere solo because they did.

There's lots of men who rent big bikes in Thailand, and ride up and down the streets pissed up with no helmet. how many of them die ? Does that make it safe because they got away with it ?

You can get away with lots of things in life. Its all just chances.

Originally Posted by Backspin

Because there will be a cohort of British people who will blame Cambodia and the authrities and the locals et al for this. But if they could prove that something about the water vortex carried her out there, then it could be shown that it was just an ill timed swim that killed her. And not sleeping cops and bad locals.

I doubt it. She elected to go swimming at 3am after a party. No-one else to blame. They can find out which way the currents would have expected to take her body by asking any local fisherman (it was fishermen that found her).

There will always be the idiots that cling to the hope that it was a rape/murder so they can spout their usual bollocks, but no fucker listens to them anyway.

Originally Posted by Backspin

Now we have the usual debate going on Twitter. Hoards of 20 something girls saying its safe to travel anywhere solo because they did.

There's lots of men who rent big bikes in Thailand, and ride up and down the streets pissed up with no helmet. how many of them die ? Does that make it safe because they got away with it ?

You can get away with lots of things in life. Its all just chances.

It is safe for anyone to travel to most places if you simply observe sensible precautions.

As it is equally unsafe to travel to some places even if you do.

And shit can happen whatever you do.

Originally Posted by Backspin

they could prove that something about the water vortex

A scientific study/opinion by Cambodians, officials or fishermen, confirming there current published conclusion.

Yeah, you sure the brit tabloids would swallow that, dream on.

^^You should have stuck with this...

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Of course solo women travellers are more vulnerable to this sort of thing than their male counterparts, and you'd have to be an idiot to try and argue otherwise.

The latest reports have placed her body some 100 kms distant from where she allegedly went into the sea.

In any event the body has been taken to Snooky for an autopsy and one should know the outcome today.

https://news.sky.com/story/body-of-b...t-sea-11850024

Amelia Bambridge: Brother confirms body is British backpacker's in emotional message

He said Ms Bambridge's family was with the authorities when they found the body floating off Koh Chhlam, an island in neighbouring Koh Kong province.

The body is being transported to a marina from the Thai border. It will take two hours to reach the mainland," Mr Narin told Reuters. He said an autopsy will be conducted when the body reached the mainland, adding that early indications suggested drowning as the cause of death.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

The latest reports have placed her body some 100 kms distant from where she allegedly went into the sea.

In any event the body has been taken to Snooky for an autopsy and one should know the outcome today.

first 30 km. Now 100 km. That's far too much for a rip current

Were you hoping for something a little more grisly?

Originally Posted by cyrille

Were you hoping for something a little more grisly?

It does sound dodgy, though

Yeah, would like to see a link to reports suggesting she was found 100km away.

Originally Posted by cyrille

^^You should have stuck with this...

Why's that then?

Originally Posted by cyrille

Yeah, would like to see a link to reports suggesting she was found 100km away.

Even if she was, does anyone quibbling about this know how far a 1kt current would travel in a week?

^^Well, because I agree with you.

It's not because people are somehow 'afraid to say it' that people don't say 'well, she was asking for it' when a female dies at the hands of some utter ****s when travelling (not what it seems has happened here).

It's because they're not arseholes.

^ Not me. But so far it's just gossip.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Even if she was, does anyone quibbling about this know how far a 1kt current would travel in a week?

Manny would.


Come back Manny!

Originally Posted by Luigi

Manny would.


Come back Manny!

Well here's a clue. A 1kt current is almost imperceptible but is 1.8km/hr.

There are 168 hours in a week.

Maybe some of these dumbarses aren't very good at maths.

Originally Posted by cyrille

^^Well, because I agree with you.

It's not because people are somehow 'afraid to say it' that people don't say 'well, she was asking for it' when a female dies at the hands of some utter ****s when travelling (not what it seems has happened here).

It's because they're not arseholes.

^ Not me. But so far it's just gossip.

Well to be honest walking alone home in the dark at 3am in a third world country is not something I'd recommend to any young female caucasian backpacker, it's just common sense. It's every predatory third world chimps dream to come across that. It doesn't mean it would happen every time but it's simply common sense to avoid the risk.

In this case, it seems to be a pure accident, and the only thing is that had she been with someone, they might have been able to do something about it or at least raise the alarm.

Edit,,, sorry Harry, you beat me to it.

^^^ So do I! I knew my job would come in useful one day.

1 knot = 1.852 km/hr

1.852 x 168 (hours in a week) = 311km

A 1 kt current is strong, but a current one third of that could theoretically travel 100 km in a week.

The distance away the body was found is variously reported in the press at 32 miles and 62 miles - my guess a careless typo that was re-reported. (and 62 miles is 100km)

Coastal currents tend to be oscillatory, ie back and forth with the tide, but even so, what at first appears to be a huge distance is easily achievable with time.

Originally Posted by harrybarracuda

Well to be honest walking alone home in the dark at 3am in a third world country is not something I'd recommend to any young female caucasian backpacker, it's just common sense. It's every predatory third world chimps dream to come across that. It doesn't mean it would happen every time but it's simply common sense to avoid the risk.

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Third World countries are definitely dangerous for a girl to be walking home alone after midnight, but there are plenty of incidents in developed countries too.

[MELBOURNE KILLERS AND THEIR YOUNG VICTIMS:
CODEY HERRMANN
Jailed for 36 years (30 years non-parole)
Raped and murdered international student Aiia Maasarwe, 21, before setting her body alight at Bundoora in January 2019
JAYMES TODD
Jailed for life (35 years non-parole) now subject to appeal
Raped and murdered 22-year-old aspiring comedian Eurydice Dixon as she walked home through Carlton North in June 2018.
SEAN PRICE
Jailed for life (39 years and nine months non-parole)
Killed schoolgirl Masa Vukotic by stabbing her 49 times in March 2015 and raped a woman in a Christian bookshop a short time later. Had a criminal history.
STEVEN JAMES HUNTER
Jailed for life without parole
Stabbed 22-year-old Sarah Cafferkey 19 times and bashed her with a hammer before dumping her body in a Bacchus Marsh wheelie bin in November 2012. He was previously jailed for killing 18-year-old colleague Jacqueline Mathews.
ADRIAN BAYLEY
Jailed for life (non-parole period reduced from 43 years to 40 years on appeal)
Raped and murdered 29-year-old Jill Meagher at Brunswick in September 2012 and had a long history of sexual assaults.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/killers-yo...W85nR1D_uTOVTF

Are you totally stupid? If you are going to extrapolate a thesis from a comparison with data from another country citing indigenous victims then you must apply the same parameter in referencing data from the country with which you are making the comparison.
If you were to do this with reference to Cambodia and, say, Thailand then I think you will agree that not only are they dangerous but that the rape and murder rates suggest the offences are a fucking rite of passage.