Thread: Australian Father Hires Former Commandos to Grab his Daughter in Thailand

Good on him.....girl leftvto rot in a shithole village.....few years, if not earlier, molested by those charming thai males.....I would not blink an eye to do the same thing...takes guts and he has it....unlike some apologists here

Seeking, Very true but we already know he's demented in so many ways. I think someone would have to be just stupid to think the girl is going to have a better life in a small place with little chance for any kind of real education.

Yes, yes, yes guys. West is a always better than Thailand. Keep believing that shit. Not much different to a thai bar girl proclaiming that Thailand best country in da world. ...

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I think your troll has slowed down a tad Willy.

Only Naughty is still hard over it.

I have just recently witnessed My friend from Brisbane, having to go over the Thailand and attend the funeral of his 11 year son. Murdered. Murdererd by a Thai boyfriend of the mother.
Heartbreaking
I cannot say to much as He is a member on here .
It was all over the Thai news, reenactment with killer in the house I had sat in and shared his hospitality, His son was there as well playing with My Son.
It's heartbreaking.
No nasty comments please as He is a long standing member on here, and the murder has happened very recently.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Kingwilly, the child was abducted in the first place by the mother who in all likelihood was a craven, scheming opportunist slapdog Isaan whore without a single scruple in her body. No decent Thai woman of any worth could possibly decide that a life for her child in this shitty country was preferable to one in a civilised place, with a decent education system and proper healthcare under the control of her natural father who clearly wants her.
She was so obviously looking to gain a commercial advantage from her luk kreung daughter by snatching her and using her as a vehicle for extorting money from the father.
Get real and stop with this bullshit.

I usually don't agree with you Seekingasylum, but in this instance, I do. She kidnapped the child in the first place, just like my ex did with my two boys for two weeks after we had our final arguement. No note, no forwarding address, no phone calls. My attorney asked if I wanted to file kidnapping charges, but I didn't. Should have but didn't.

Any woman taking a child away from their father without a court order should be horsewhipped and thrown in jail. It is just too bad the father had to use such extreme measures.

They should have thrown the mother in the klong for good measure too

Originally Posted by wasabi

I have just recently witnessed My friend from Brisbane, having to go over the Thailand and attend the funeral of his 11 year son. Murdered. Murdererd by a Thai boyfriend of the mother.
Heartbreaking
I cannot say to much as He is a member on here .
It was all over the Thai news, reenactment with killer in the house I had sat in and shared his hospitality, His son was there as well playing with My Son.
It's heartbreaking.
No nasty comments please as He is a long standing member on here, and the murder has happened very recently.

That's just shocking.

West is not best.....but in this particular case with this particular girl....and based only on what we read......then it seems to be the best.

Wasabi...a parents worst nightmare.....hope the boyfriend gets whats due

Originally Posted by hazz

The mother does not have the right to remove her daughter from Australia without the agreement of the father or having gained permission from the courts.

So how did she get the daughter out of Aus in the first place? Someone fcuked up or we're not being told the full story.

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

So how did she get the daughter out of Aus in the first place? Someone fcuked up or we're not being told the full story.

I was wondering about that also.

Couple of years ago when I took my sons on holiday with me I had to get some sort of official document to clear Thai customs stating that my wife was aware of the trip / gave permission.

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Couple of years ago when I took my sons on holiday with me I had to get some sort of official document to clear Thai customs stating that my wife was aware of the trip / gave permission.

You are correct.

Travelling Overseas with Children after Divorce or Separation

A parent wishing to take a child overseas should obtain the other parent's consent.

In the event that a parent wishes to travel with a child for a holiday overseas, and the other parent refuses to agree, they may apply for orders. If the court is satisfied that it will be in the child's best interest, it will allow the child to travel. The court will require full details of the intended travel arrangements, including dates of travel and intended destinations.

The court will also consider the risks of the child not returning to Australia, and can also make orders for a parent to provide financial security (a bond) in order to retrieve the passports and travel overseas with the child. That bond would be returned to the parent upon the child's return to Australia and the delivery of their passport back to the court.

Travelling Overseas with Children after Divorce or Separation - Australian Family Law

^In our case we weren't even separated/divorced at that time (still aren't, although I forgot our anniversary yesterday so that might yet change ).

So if even Thailand has such checks/balances what happened in this case? I think you're correct and the full story isn't out.

I believe Thailand now carry out the relevant checks when a parent, traveling with children, tries to fly out of the country. Thailand is not a signatory to the Hague Convention which covers the kidnapping/taking children over it's borders.

“Parental Kidnapping is not a crime in Thailand and Thai authorities will not issue a warrant or become involved should one parent take a child without the other parent’s authorization.”

Child Abduction in Thailand

Originally Posted by Latindancer

^^^ We all send our heartfelt wishes to your friend, Wasabi. That is a terrible state of affairs.


Although the case in this thread is regarding a mother who illegally took her daughter away from the father, it seems the father flew into Laos with operatives, illegally crossed the Thai border by boat, snatched the daughter and returned to Laos.
I wonder about the legality of that...

You can be such an old woman sometimes.
Sometimes what's right isn't necessarily what's legal.

Originally Posted by wasabi

I have just recently witnessed My friend from Brisbane, having to go over the Thailand and attend the funeral of his 11 year son. Murdered. Murdererd by a Thai boyfriend of the mother.
Heartbreaking
I cannot say to much as He is a member on here .
It was all over the Thai news, reenactment with killer in the house I had sat in and shared his hospitality, His son was there as well playing with My Son.
It's heartbreaking.
No nasty comments please as He is a long standing member on here, and the murder has happened very recently.

Good lord what a nightmare.
Condolences to our TD member.

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Originally Posted by hazz

The mother does not have the right to remove her daughter from Australia without the agreement of the father or having gained permission from the courts.

So how did she get the daughter out of Aus in the first place? Someone fcuked up or we're not being told the full story.

Seems pretty clear to me.
They were all living happily (he thought) together, married in Aus' when

In January 2013, the Scottish-born hurdling coach who now lives in Queensland was shocked when he came home to find his home empty and his wife and daughter gone.
He was devastated to discover his wife – a Thai national – had abruptly left the country, taking their four-year-old daughter Natasha with her to live with her mother.
‘I came back to an empty house. I was calling and calling but no one answered their phone,’ Mr Dempster told the Daily Mail.
‘I was in a panic, I was trying to figure out why it was happening. I tried but I couldn’t get to the airport on time.
‘That was it, she was gone. Natasha was gone. We weren’t even given a chance to say goodbye.’
Natasha was taken from Australia to Thailand to live with her maternal grandmother.

Originally Posted by Cujo

Seems pretty clear to me.

How can it be clear? Single adult with child to fly out. Procedures to prevent child abduction are carried out, I assume? How were they allowed to leave Aus in the first place?

Originally Posted by Cujo

‘I was in a panic, I was trying to figure out why it was happening. I tried but I couldn’t get to the airport on time.

Okay, his child has been abducted and can't get to the airport in time. Why didn't he report the matter to the authorities and have the mother detained when they land in Thailand?

And if he knew he couldn't get to the airport on time then he knew that's where they were and what flight they were on??

That would contradict the reported comments he was 'shocked' to find them gone.

Good plug for the company, i'm sure they'll get more business in Thailand.

Originally Posted by Chittychangchang

Good plug for the company, i'm sure they'll get more business in Thailand.

From my experience of people i've met the Thai women more often than not will leave the child/ren with the father as their parenting skills and empathy towards the children are in short supply.

I've literally met dozen's of farang single dads in the UK.

When the child/ren is taken back to Thailand without permission and dumped in the back of beyond with the in-laws then it's all about money.

Imho the only mistake the dad made was not getting his daughter out earlier.

No point with courts and red tape in cases such as this, straight in for the extraction.

Originally Posted by Cujo

Originally Posted by Latindancer

^^^ We all send our heartfelt wishes to your friend, Wasabi. That is a terrible state of affairs.


Although the case in this thread is regarding a mother who illegally took her daughter away from the father, it seems the father flew into Laos with operatives, illegally crossed the Thai border by boat, snatched the daughter and returned to Laos.
I wonder about the legality of that...

You can be such an old woman sometimes.
Sometimes what's right isn't necessarily what's legal.

Yeah yeah yeah....I was merely ruminating on the possible international legal repercussions, now that this is a (more or less) highish-profile case.

Originally Posted by Chittychangchang

When the child/ren is taken back to Thailand without permission and dumped in the back of beyond with the in-laws then it's all about money.

I disagree. It's normal for children to be dumped on to their grandma whilst the mother goes to work. She can't do both until the child's of an age whereby they can take care of themselves. That isn't the case here. Sorry to say CCC you're stereotyping.
I'd love to hear the mothers side of the story.