Thread: US marine in Subic Bay Ladyboy slaying identified

MANILA, Philippines - The Philippine National Police (PNP) on Tuesday identified the United States Marine tagged in the killing of a Filipino transgender in Olongapo City.

In a memorandum, the PNP identified the American soldier as Private First Class Joseph Scott Pemberton of the US Marine Corps 2nd Battalion 9th Marines assigned at WestPac Express.

The PNP memo said the suspect was positively identified by witness Mark Clarence Gelviro through a line-up process provided by a representative of the Naval Criminal Investigative Service (NCIS).

A case of murder is being readied for filing against the suspect, the memo added.

Pemberton was reportedly on furlough after participating in a naval drill between Filipino and US forces in Zambales, when he allegedly killed Jennifer Laude, 26, in Room 1 of Celzone Lodge on Magsaysay Boulevard.

Earlier reports said the two met in a disco in Subic and checked into the motel. Before midnight, Pemberton was seen leaving while Laude was found naked in the bathroom, with the head resting on the rim of the toilet bowl.



In a statement on Tuesday morning, the US Embassy in Manila said Pemberton is being held onboard the USS Peleliu while a joint Naval Criminal Investigative Service and PNP is conducted.

"The United States will continue to fully cooperate with Philippine law enforcement authorities in every aspect of the investigation," the embassy added.

The embassy also expressed its condolences to the Laude's family and friends.


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This story has dominated the news here for the last two days. It is not only a case of murder, but involves a transgender person - topping all of that, it is shaping up into another huge fight over the controversial Visiting Forces Agreement - exactly who has jurisdiction.

A variety of women's groups, transgender groups, and Communist student groups are already protesting in Olongapo and at the US Embassy demanding the repeal of the VFA and that the accused Marine be turned over to the Filipinos for trial.

In the case of Marine Lance Corporal Daniel Smith, accused of rape in a case a decade old, the US refused to turn Smith over and kept him locked up in the US Embassy for almost two years. In the end, the "raped" Filipina, a known prostitute, admitted that her testimony was fabricated, Smith was released, his career and life ruined, and she was granted a visa to fly off to the US to marry another US Marine.

This case is different. The Marine and the transgender met at a disco, left for a nearby hotel, they both entered, he left a short while later, her body was found within minutes, strangled with his head in the toilet bowl.

Eyewitnesses have already picked the Marine out of line-ups and he has reportedly said "Something bad happened.

Speculation is that the two had sexual relations (two used condoms were found in the hotel room), the transgender (who had been surgically altered) admitted he was a boy, and the young Marine flipped out. Given the Marine's low rank, this may well have been his first overseas cruise.

So he got a shock
When she took off her frock
And he saw a cock

^Reporting here says post-op.

Just looked at the Marine's Facebook page. 2013 High School graduate. Been in the Marines for just over one year. Private First Class (E-2) - the second lowest enlisted rank. That would make him around 19. Almost certainly on his first deployment.

I'm not a lawyer. I did serve in the US Military 30 plus years ago.

First, the suspect will be tried in a US Military Courts Martial under the United States Uniform Code of Military Justice. Maximum penalty for murder is capital punishment (the death sentence).

As a member of the United States military it is emphasized that you are in fact an Ambassador of the United States of America and that you will be held to a higher standard. The punishment he will receive in a courts martial will exceed the punishment he would or will receive in a civilian court.

After he completes the sentence meted out by the Courts Martial he will then be turned over to the civilian courts for trial, and punishment - if the civilian courts so desire.

The transgender status of the victim is mitigating circumstances which may, or may not, benefit the suspect. Either way - his goose is cooked. He faces not one, but two trials. A United States Courts Martial does not follow the "innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt" premise and he will be tried by a group of his peers, patriotic military members who pride the uniform they wear and take serious the job of policing their own. He stained the uniform they wear proudly and they will deliver justice. May God have mercy on his soul.


But, again, I am not a lawyer.

^I too served in the US military, some 45 years ago. I agree he's had the course. The victim's sister was at the disco and saw them leave together, another transgender accompanied them to the hotel but departed as they went up to the room, the hotel clerk has made a positive ID, and three of his Marine buddies were with him and the two trannies at the disco. His buddies, when threatened with involvement in the case, will immediately roll over on him.

He's done. The victim's family is from Olongapo, and is a solid, middle class family. This won't go away.

A big question is what impact this will have on VFA. The rules are quite clear, and understood by both governments, but, as with the decade-old Marine Smith case, anti-VFA forces will do everything possibly to derail the VFA agreement.

He looks queer enough in his touched up facebook photo
but here's how he really looks or looked,
transvestite Mr Jeffrey Laude and his plastic tits :



Hustisya, sigaw ng pamilya ng napatay na transgender | DZMM - ABS-CBN

Do Marines have eye test on enlisting? Cuz if the young marine couldn't tell the victim wasn't a bloke then he certainly needs specs.

19 years old, probably with beer goggles, probably first time out of the US. Marine.

What type of reaction was the post op transsexual expecting after getting fuked then telling the guy that he'd just fuked another dude, obviously she/he/it wasn't expecting to be killed but all the same why tell him if he was none the wiser.

^Agree. But we don't know what happened. And may never know. My guess is the Marine will claim he was being robbed. Just a guess.

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

A big question is what impact this will have on VFA.

Davis, you have to tell us what impact actually occurs.

The huge amount of US dollars received by the Philippines represents all the incentive the Philippines government needs to justify the agreement.

Can the anti-VFA contingent get an exit or amendment to the agreement through voting remains to be seen.

The closure of Subic Bay made the US rethink it's position in Southeast Asia and make "other arrangements" to adequately protect US interests in the region.

All things considered, the great number of US military members of Philippines decent, along with war brides and military spouses, guarantees a very large voting block of pro USA.

But, this incident will cause protests, news, discussion and possibly a vote.

You have feet on the ground there. What is the general consensus where you live? and, how about in the outlying areas? What is your gut feeling concerning the impact of this on the agreement? and what the future holds?

Originally Posted by bowie

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

A big question is what impact this will have on VFA.

Davis, you have to tell us what impact actually occurs.

The huge amount of US dollars received by the Philippines represents all the incentive the Philippines government needs to justify the agreement.

Can the anti-VFA contingent get an exit or amendment to the agreement through voting remains to be seen.

The closure of Subic Bay made the US rethink it's position in Southeast Asia and make "other arrangements" to adequately protect US interests in the region.

All things considered, the great number of US military members of Philippines decent, along with war brides and military spouses, guarantees a very large voting block of pro USA.

But, this incident will cause protests, news, discussion and possibly a vote.

You have feet on the ground there. What is the general consensus where you live? and, how about in the outlying areas? What is your gut feeling concerning the impact of this on the agreement? and what the future holds?

If you look at a wide range of Filipino social media sources, about half the posts are screaming rage from the normal anti-American groups - Gabriella, Communist Student League, etc. Of the other 50%, it's about 50/50. Some comments say the Marine should swing...other ask what did this tranny think was going to happen?

Other than the anti-American groups - small but very vocal - I don't think most Filipinos care whether the US or the Philippines tries him or jails him if convicted. Thus far, the case looks pretty clear cut. I think both governments will shoot for a quick resolution.

Re VFA, I think it will stand. When a bunch of nationalist Senators (most of whom were either dual US citizens or Green Card holders) tried to hold up the US for huge rent increases on their leases on Clark and Subic bases, the US said go screw, and just moved. The Philippines suffered hugely for that idiocy.

The Philippines wants the US in their corner with a heightened threat from the Chinese. The US finds Subic convenient. I doubt if screaming transgender support groups have the power to influence much of anything, as long as the Filipino people see that justice is done.

The aesthetically unappealing thing about Asian ladyboys is their 'joo dam'

Here is a torrent of Teakdoor's fave' ladyboy - Emma. As you can see, - black ninky-nonk.

Extreme Ladyboys - Emma.mpg (download torrent) - TPB

Download it (purely for scientific purposes of course), and pretend she is prancing around in your front parlour.

Fascinating creatures...

Originally Posted by somtamslap

Fascinating creatures...

Young Marines are.

I'm not sure what might be worse: penetrating the fundament of a hirsute transgender or appearing before one's peers accused of bringing disgrace upon a uniform.

How did you come by that appalling salacious link, Mr. Moog?

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

How did you come by that appalling salacious link, Mr. Moog?

Blue sent it to me.

According to a police statement, witnesses said that a white non-Filipino man, 25 to 30, with a “Marine haircut” met Mr. Laude, who was dressed as a woman, at the Ambyanz nightclub in Olongapo City and that the two checked into the nearby Celzone Lodge.

The foreigner left the room about 30 minutes later, and Mr. Laude’s body, which showed wounds in the neck, was discovered by hotel workers. The police statement said that Mr. Laude had told a friend at the nightclub that the foreigner thought he was a woman, and asked the friend to not disclose that he was a man.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/14/wo...pino.html?_r=0

Definately not a post op poofter then ...

It sereves the homosexual Mr. Laude right, they should free the marine , in fact promote him for making the streets safer .

The filipinos should be protesting at why these sick cheating transvestites are allowed to operate in their city, and not at the USA presense.

Originally Posted by The Ghost Of The Moog

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

How did you come by that appalling salacious link, Mr. Moog?

Blue sent it to me.

From his home movie collection no doubt.

Originally Posted by blue

According to a police statement, witnesses said that a white non-Filipino man, 25 to 30, with a “Marine haircut” met Mr. Laude, who was dressed as a woman, at the Ambyanz nightclub in Olongapo City and that the two checked into the nearby Celzone Lodge.

The foreigner left the room about 30 minutes later, and Mr. Laude’s body, which showed wounds in the neck, was discovered by hotel workers. The police statement said that Mr. Laude had told a friend at the nightclub that the foreigner thought he was a woman, and asked the friend to not disclose that he was a man.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/14/wo...pino.html?_r=0

Definately not a post op poofter then ...

It sereves the homosexual Mr. Laude right, they should free the marine , in fact promote him for making the streets safer .

The filipinos should be protesting at why these sick cheating transvestites are allowed to operate in their city, and not at the USA presense.

All reporting (TV) here in the Philippines says he was post-op. The quote was that he told his tranny friend, "Why don't you leave. I don't want him to know we're trannies". Not that it makes much difference to your point.

He looks a little gay though.

Anyway, a bit of a daft response to perhaps seeing a meat and two veg where a cunny should be; drowning Mr Laude in a toilet. Punch in the chops should have been enough.

Surprised his Facebook page is still up. And one more time, he was post-op (not the jarhead, the other "he").