Thread: Two Tourists Brutally Murdered on Koh Tao, One Raped: Police Spark Thailand Manhunt

Been trying for some time to post this photo.
Looks like I have succeeded at last. Just wanted to say where are the Brits?
sep

Originally Posted by septimus

Originally Posted by Latindancer

Blows to the back of the head. Ones to the face wouldn't kill her quickly. Though I suppose some may have hit her forehead.
Perhaps I was just wondering how many blows were made ?

Her face was smashed beyond recognition, there was nothing left of it. I know it is a dirty word right now, but I read that they had to use DNA to get a positive ID. She was also posed with her knees up and feet underneath, near her backside also her legs were open and her breasts exposed. This act was most certainly carried out by a monster or monsters. David had a nasty wound to the back of his head, which was open like a flap and a stab wound under his jaw.
I think that is about right?

I would disagree strongly , in fact I would say only one hit was made to Witheridge, it certainly was brutal enough but it was a kill hit, positioned high up, and in no way rendered the face unrecognizable.

I have read every article on this crime, probably twice and no where have I read DNA used to ID her. In fact, where would that identifying DNA come from? There were no relatives in Thailand at the time she was ID'd, which was immediately upon discovery.

And the feet were not under her or near her backside. Her wide open position indicates she was either unconscious when attacked, as there is no defensiveness in her posture, or placed in such a way as to be humiliated

From page 66 of this thread:

Originally Posted by pseudolus

This guy was apparently a suspect (aka, he did it, but was never arrested or questioned because of his connections) in another violent rape 2 years ago.

Are those photos ^ of puncture wounds from the current crime, or the previous crime 2 years ago, which you just mentioned ?

Or were David's wounds only :

Originally Posted by septimus

a nasty wound to the back of his head, which was open like a flap and a stab wound under his jaw.
I think that is about right?

Bangkok Post
November 1, 2014
Writer: Online Reporters

The son of an influential local leader on Koh Tao has been cleared from possible involvement in the Koh Tao murder case after all four DNA test results showed no match.

The DNA samples taken from Warot Tuwichian did not match the DNA in semen retrieved from the body of British tourist Hannah Witheridge, who was raped and murdered on a Koh Tao beach, and items found at the crime scene, said police spokesman Prawut Thawornsiri late on Friday.

The four institutions which conducted the tests were the Police General, Ramathibodi, Chulalongkorn Memorial and Siriraj hospitals, he said. "The results have been officially endorsed and there's no need to send more samples abroad to be retested.

"Mr Warot is not a suspect in the case but he has cooperated with us well. As far as the police are concerned, he was cleared long ago. We only did this [DNA tests] to comply with his wish to prove his innocence to the public," Pol Lt Gen Prawut said.

Full article: Village chief's son cleared | Bangkok Post: news

Originally Posted by YOrlov

I have read every article on this crime, probably twice and no where have I read DNA used to ID her.

It was posted earlier in this thread from a BBC report on 1st October:

The brief hearing was told the student from the University of Essex had been identified using DNA samples taken from her parents and Thai authorities had requested the pathologist's report.

A full inquest will take place on 6 January.

BBC News - Thailand murders: David Miller's family thoughts for Hannah Witheridge

It caused a bit of confusion but I believe this was the method of formally identifying her corpse when it arrived in the UK. The autopsy was carried out in Thailand so I imagine the Thais simply wanted the official identification from the pathologist rather than an autopsy report.

Originally Posted by Troy

Originally Posted by YOrlov

I have read every article on this crime, probably twice and no where have I read DNA used to ID her.

It was posted earlier in this thread from a BBC report on 1st October:

The brief hearing was told the student from the University of Essex had been identified using DNA samples taken from her parents and Thai authorities had requested the pathologist's report.

A full inquest will take place on 6 January.

BBC News - Thailand murders: David Miller's family thoughts for Hannah Witheridge

It caused a bit of confusion but I believe this was the method of formally identifying her corpse when it arrived in the UK. The autopsy was carried out in Thailand so I imagine the Thais simply wanted the official identification from the pathologist rather than an autopsy report.

My response was to a post stated she was unrecognizable, and " had to be Id'd by DNA" which was not true.
I would comment the DNA testing by a Thai pathologist and/or UK coroner was a formality, as she was Id'd by her friends the same day she was murdered, her name, passport photo and other pertinent info and other photos were online by the end of the next day, Sept 16th.

Bangkok Post
November 1, 2014
Writer: Online Reporters

The son of an influential local leader on Koh Tao has been cleared from possible involvement in the Koh Tao murder case after all four DNA test results showed no match.

The DNA samples taken from Warot Tuwichian did not match the DNA in semen retrieved from the body of British tourist Hannah Witheridge, who was raped and murdered on a Koh Tao beach, and items found at the crime scene, said police spokesman Prawut Thawornsiri late on Friday.

The four institutions which conducted the tests were the Police General, Ramathibodi, Chulalongkorn Memorial and Siriraj hospitals, he said. "The results have been officially endorsed and there's no need to send more samples abroad to be retested.

"Mr Warot is not a suspect in the case but he has cooperated with us well. As far as the police are concerned, he was cleared long ago. We only did this [DNA tests] to comply with his wish to prove his innocence to the public," Pol Lt Gen Prawut said.

Full article: Village chief's son cleared | Bangkok Post: news

That seems a bit odd (directly linking semen with murder). Does one need semen to commit murder these days?

Originally Posted by septimus

Been trying for some time to post this photo.
Looks like I have succeeded at last. Just wanted to say where are the Brits?
sep

Clearly not at the circus.

Sadly, there's a long and honourable tradition in Thailand of letting patsies take the fall.

So the scumbag son's DNA doesn't match the planted DNA of the two Burmese? Pathetic yet again from the BIB filth.

It appears the KT mafia are starting a fight back after a month of zero income....



https://www.facebook.com/pages/AC-BA...632?fref=photo

In true style of the bar and owners they sympathetically had a Halloween party where everyone was covered in blood etc (You couldn't make it up)

Check out the comments from the arrogant DJ and other posters..

Old news but still a relevant question needs answering..

On September 23, 2014
The police have arrested a suspect in the murder of two British tourists in Koh Tao and are still hunting for a second suspect who has escaped into Bangkok.Eighth Region Police Command commissioner Pol Lt-Gen Panya Mamen identified the first suspect as Mon.He is the brother of a village headman in Koh Tao.He was arrested after evidence which police collected were examined and proved he was involved, he said.He also said another suspect is also a son of that village headman. But he has already to Bangkok.He said both suspects were captured by CCTV cameras and the police have gathered enough evidence to implicate them in the murders.
How come Panya Mamen changed his story?

One tourist murder suspect now arrested, another on the run - Thai PBS English News

The rats are going down. They see it (albeit slower than we do).

Looking forward to the trial.

Originally Posted by tomta

Sadly, there's a long and honourable tradition in Thailand of letting patsies take the fall.

True , but there's also a new tradition, among conspiracy nutters, of imagining fantastic explanations, usually involving the most powerful group about- be it the US government or the local cartoon mafia , rather than consider the simplest ie drunk immigrants done it .

^How much does it cost now to get this type of result?...

Originally Posted by Chittychangchang

It appears the KT mafia are starting a fight back after a month of zero income....



https://www.facebook.com/pages/AC-BA...632?fref=photo

In true style of the bar and owners they sympathetically had a Halloween party where everyone was covered in blood etc (You couldn't make it up)

Check out the comments from the arrogant DJ and other posters..

Just no respect at all for the deceased. Absolutely pathetic.

Originally Posted by philw

Originally Posted by septimus

Been trying for some time to post this photo.
Looks like I have succeeded at last. Just wanted to say where are the Brits?
sep

Clearly not at the circus.

And quite rightly. The UK police are keeping a low profile, and certainly wouldn't be present at media charades such as this. They must be recoiling in horror at the lengths the Thai police will go in order to demonstrate their 'professionalism'.

I certainly am disbelieving of any remarks attributed to them (the UK police that is) unless it comes from their own mouths or a representative of the UK authorities.

Originally Posted by ENT

Originally Posted by Latindancer

Blows to the back of the head. Ones to the face wouldn't kill her quickly. Though I suppose some may have hit her forehead.
Perhaps I was just wondering how many blows were made ?

You're kidding.

Any one of several types of severe blow to the upper maxillofacial bones can be instantly fatal.

I'm surprised that you didn't know that, you being a karate expert, etc.

The boys from the UK are simply part of the Charade orchestrated by Number 10, Downing Street. You folks didn't actually think there was any real service to be offered here by the UK diplomatic corp. did you?

Originally Posted by ltnt

The boys from the UK are simply part of the Charade orchestrated by Number 10, Downing Street. You folks didn't actually think there was any real service to be offered here by the UK diplomatic corp. did you?

The fact that the dictator sat with cameron shows there is clearly some large UK corporation(s) looking for some deal in Thailand and this will be simply adding some credibility to the thai junta.

Originally Posted by YOrlov

Originally Posted by septimus

Originally Posted by Latindancer

Blows to the back of the head. Ones to the face wouldn't kill her quickly. Though I suppose some may have hit her forehead.
Perhaps I was just wondering how many blows were made ?

Her face was smashed beyond recognition, there was nothing left of it. I know it is a dirty word right now, but I read that they had to use DNA to get a positive ID. She was also posed with her knees up and feet underneath, near her backside also her legs were open and her breasts exposed. This act was most certainly carried out by a monster or monsters. David had a nasty wound to the back of his head, which was open like a flap and a stab wound under his jaw.
I think that is about right?

I would disagree strongly , in fact I would say only one hit was made to Witheridge, it certainly was brutal enough but it was a kill hit, positioned high up, and in no way rendered the face unrecognizable.

I have read every article on this crime, probably twice and no where have I read DNA used to ID her. In fact, where would that identifying DNA come from? There were no relatives in Thailand at the time she was ID'd, which was immediately upon discovery.

And the feet were not under her or near her backside. Her wide open position indicates she was either unconscious when attacked, as there is no defensiveness in her posture, or placed in such a way as to be humiliated

I am so sorry. I bow to your superiority. By the way her legs were not wide open.
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Originally Posted by Latindancer

From page 66 of this thread:

Originally Posted by pseudolus

This guy was apparently a suspect (aka, he did it, but was never arrested or questioned because of his connections) in another violent rape 2 years ago.

Are those photos ^ of puncture wounds from the current crime, or the previous crime 2 years ago, which you just mentioned ?

Or were David's wounds only :

Originally Posted by septimus

a nasty wound to the back of his head, which was open like a flap and a stab wound under his jaw.
I think that is about right?

I would say that one of those rings could have caused the injury under Davids jaw. That is what I thought when I first saw that photo.
Of course I may need to defer to someone with greater knowledge?
sep

Regards the Halloween Party. Comes a time when things must go on. This festival is held every year at AC bar.

If the world shut down every location where a murder took place there would be no place to go .

How long is long enough to mourn after a murder takes place. ?

2 weeks, 4 weeks 6 weeks or 1 year. ????

The issue at hand is the handling of the murder case not whether the AC Bar has held a halloween party and a few arseholes have made light of the murders.

Jesus, let life get back to normal just as it does in every other location on Earth.

Heaps of punters have been topped in Pattaya and the place is still rammed full with tourists.

Just get on with it.