Thread: Two Tourists Brutally Murdered on Koh Tao, One Raped: Police Spark Thailand Manhunt

Ironically the only thing about these 2 that make me think they might actually be factually guilty is that they don't look the part.

Seems if the Thai Police were going to pin this on any convenient Burmese workers to save their precious tourism, they would have chosen a pair that looked bigger, darker, meaner and stronger.


Going to Google News and running "Thailand murders" it appears the majority of the British press is not being as critical of these arrests as one might hope.

Now we have a story about a team of lawyers being appointed to represent the accused Burmese guys. What these lawyers can do is not very clear, other than to advise them of their "rights" under Thai law and monitor things from here on.

What is totally bizarre is how the police could "question" and obtain confessions behind closed doors without any legal representation present on behalf of those accused.

In any civilized country that would render the whole process invalid. Nobody has advised these fellows of their rights, and nobody, apart from the BIB have been allowed anywhere near them.

In any proper court operating under any legitimate rules of law, a first year law student could have the case thrown out in five minutes. This is not the kind of stuff one should expect even from a "developing" country. It seems more in line with 1960ies Haiti under Papa Doc and the TonTon Macoute......

Originally Posted by BobR

Going to Google News and running "Thailand murders" it appears the majority of the British press is not being as critical of these arrests as one might hope.

Sign of the times. Many publications now rehash agency stuff. Maintaining quality stringers, bureaux or heavy weight commentators in foreign fields has long since gone. Economics dictate savings on costs over good copy. Any story concerning Brits abroad will have " legs " but they'll go off the boil unless the story is revitalised to pique further interest.

Facebook, the blogosphere, Twitter is the medium and that is all to do with the immediate.

If this story is to last it requires input from the victims' families in the UK, public opinion and from celebrities. If sufficient groundswell is created then politicians want a piece of the action. Isn't going to happen in my view. Who wins the latest Great British Bake Off is more important.

It's the way of the world now.

Its going to come I got a reply from one newspaper, that just said they are looking into the murders and have been contacted by many, or words to that effect.

sounds like a fob off to me.

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

Sign of the times. Many publications now rehash agency stuff. Maintaining quality stringers, bureaux or heavy weight commentators in foreign fields has long since gone. Economics dictate savings on costs over good copy. .

Correct, journalism is a dying profession.

The future is just a series of endless speculative blogs and opinion pieces, where no quotes have been obtained ( = too much like hard work).

In my publication, i'm the only full timer. Everyone else is freelance getting paid peanuts.

Originally Posted by The Ghost Of The Moog

In my publication

Would you care to share the name of the publication? Sounds like it might be worth a read.

Originally Posted by Yasojack

Its going to come I got a reply from one newspaper, that just said they are looking into the murders and have been contacted by many, or words to that effect.

Other than opinion and speculation, exactly what can you offer any newspaper or other news source..?

Is there anyone posting here who has any actual knowledge of what happened other that what they have already read on the news or some social network spouting opinions...?

This case is very long on opinion and guesswork but very short on facts. Endless complaining about chickeheads and the proclivities of the BIB is not news, and even if it was, the attention span of the audience is about as long as the life of a fruitfly.

I've added my name to a petition asking for a fully independent review and investigation. I understand about eight thousand others have also signed and the numbers are growing. I really hope it gets somewhere, but in truth I doubt if it will. If it does, I will be pleasantly surprised.

The influence and power of the great UK tabloid press seems to be held out as some kind of kindly light here, but the BIB and the Thai judicial system is totally unimpressed by any of it. Social media is so overwhelmed by people commenting and speculating on everything, that even big stories die out pretty quickly.

A sad reality of the information age, is that there is too much crap buzzing around posing as information, and a great many people can't tell the difference any more.

I posted about the case that happened up in chiang Mai took six years to get the Burmese released, it came and hopefully this time, it won't take so long.with lawyers being involved at the early stages, possibly we may find out the truth this time.

We all know it happens on a regular basis here.

Hi Tax,
Wow, that's harsh, mate!
I suppose I should join the mob and hate on you for that outburst - but I kind of agree with much of what you said (except perhaps the last bit).

However, all those negative attributes can be found in all races of people (including my own) don't you agree?

Originally Posted by DBell

Originally Posted by Yasojack View Post Sign the petition, and send to friends. https://www.change.org/p/the-governm...ler?lang=en-GB

Done.

The answer is simple: geography.

Siam didn't have anything it's bordering countries couldn't provide for their occupying colonial powers.

China and America have been their only colonial influences of note and no one would accuse them of being civilised.

When did the US colonize Thailand? I must have missed it.

Cops are claiming the phone they found was the male victim's. Has anyone seen any photos of the unit the police claim is a key piece of evidence? Damage control or the real deal?

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

The answer is simple: geography.

Siam didn't have anything it's bordering countries couldn't provide for their occupying colonial powers.

China and America have been their only colonial influences of note and no one would accuse them of being civilised.

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

When did the US colonize Thailand? I must have missed it.

Japan did .

^Indeed.

Originally Posted by thailazer

Cops are claiming the phone they found was the male victim's. Has anyone seen any photos of the unit the police claim is a key piece of evidence? Damage control or the real deal?

We have to give the BIB credit at times. They can drop the ball right in front of a large crowd and without even blinking and eye, can produce another ball from behind their back... feeling assured that nobody noticed them drop the first one.

You may find the Brits got nearest to it after WW2

Originally Posted by Seekingasylum

The answer is simple: geography.

Siam didn't have anything it's bordering countries couldn't provide for their occupying colonial powers.

China and America have been their only colonial influences of note and no one would accuse them of being civilised.

However, all those negative attributes can be found in all races of people (including my own) don't you agree? .

No.

Thais never admit or accept their shortcomings, seeing themselves as faultless and preferring to blame others. Ever tried to correct a Thai? The excuses they manage to come with to justify their position in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary is astounding.

Whereas others are capable of learning from their mistakes and therefore improving, people as blinkered and arrogant as the Thai who can never accept that they may be wrong will never learn and will never improve.

Maintaining face is all that counts.

Its amusing as an outsider to observe these childish characteristics, unless of course one gets into any kind of dispute or disagreement with them, which of course is why compromise is such an important part of their primitive culture, compromise ensures no face is lost but sadly also ensures that no fault or responsibility is accepted.

Disputes involving members of Thai societys lower orders are usually settled by violence, because even the concept of compromise can be too difficult for their retarded intelligences to assimilate.

In terms of evolution, the Thai have surely taken a wrong turn and have entered a cul de sac. Interbreeding with westerners and chinese is their only hope.

Originally Posted by koman

The influence and power of the great UK tabloid press seems to be held out as some kind of kindly light here, but the BIB and the Thai judicial system is totally unimpressed by any of it. Social media is so overwhelmed by people commenting and speculating on everything, that even big stories die out pretty quickly.

Well then, hit them where it hurts...If they are "unimpressed" by the demands for an independent review, then start a petition which suggests people stay away from Thailand (particularly Turtle Turd Island) because it is the only way to get the message through to the uncaring hypocrites...

If worded correctly and emotionally on behalf of the two young attractive victims and the scores of other injustices over the years, combined with thousands of signatures increasing daily, it could be a force...

One thing is for sure...THE THAI HYPOCRITES WOULD DEFINITELY NOTICE IT...

Already done


https://www.change.org/p/the-governm...ng=en-US#share

Originally Posted by tomta

Originally Posted by DBell

Originally Posted by Yasojack View Post Sign the petition, and send to friends. https://www.change.org/p/the-governm...ler?lang=en-GB

Done.

Originally Posted by Yasojack

You may find the Brits got nearest to it after WW2

Strange statement. Thailand declared war on both the US and UK while they were bowing to the Japs during WW2.

On what do you base this claim of significant British influence in Thailand post-WW2?

^

worthy of a seperate thread ,

Brit influence stopped at the border with Malaysia , Patani is the Brits fok up .....

Brits did try to penalise the Thais for their war time behaviour but were over ruled by the Americans .

Originally Posted by thailazer

Cops are claiming the phone they found was the male victim's. Has anyone seen any photos of the unit the police claim is a key piece of evidence? Damage control or the real deal?

Not sure but seem like there is another phone in this video, at 3.00, but at the time Mr. Ware was still on the Island...maybe they used this one instead of the one that was given to them ???