Thread: Thailand Coup 2014 : Number of detainees hits 150

That post is well-written. I just get angry with racist sht and feel more secure with M16 by my side.

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

This concept that Thais are somehow different, mixed with a large does of dehumanizing, as Tax's post above, is not the correct way to view the situation because it considers the symptoms not the cause.

Thai society is conventional, as every society/culture is, and it's the army and another group which frame the conventions and cause these symptoms by their patronage and totally corrupt behaviour; systematic, calculated, focused. So, now seeing the army as the doctor to treat the symptoms of which they are the cause is somewhat confused logic and goes against every social study, historical study and critical study of societies and their development. It's hard to believe that educated and intelligent posters will totally ignore all the academics, politicians and Thais living out of Thailand, and follow suthep and the army's propaganda instead.

Originally Posted by Waid

Yet, the same old cycles continue.

Yes, they do - until someone, or some incident creates a flashpoint.

Thinking here of the Arab Spring & other recent times of rapid change. Everyone said it would never occur - yet it did.

The trigger in Tunisia - a fellow setting himself alight over the injustice he had experienced. The world has changed as we move into the information age.

One can't use other worldwide rebellious activities as comparisons with Thai - it just doesn't work...any such comparative analogies are ridiculous.

These events [coups, military overthrows, political scallywaggery, etc] have been historically apart of contemporary Thai history for quite a time. And almost always does not play a part in disrupting everyday life - life goes on as it always has.

Yes, there has been a tradition of independent rebellion and separatist circles throughout the relative period - and always a minute percentage represented.

It's the very nature of Thai character [generally speaking] to dismiss all of the goofyness of their political affairs. Instinctively, Thai don't challenge nor question whoever is in charge and acting as false authority - even if they do quite understand these situations and whatnot.....they're indifferent as to whose ruling this month and who's not. As long as they can get on with their daily lives and things are ok......

The good Thai folks aren't nearly as angst as you [and others] about any of this shit - more than likely, understand it much better than all of you that speak from an outsiders perspective.

Some outsiders are truly looking for a bloody civil war.
As long as they're not involved personally - it's ok.

Less connected.

Fcuk off, all of ya.

Originally Posted by Waid

You under-estimate the resolve of rural Thai people - especially those living in Isaan - the part that was historically part of Laos. Their support flows deeply into the surrounding countries. The Red strongholds.

So I'm reading your post as saying that because Issan was historically a part of laos you are insinuating that Laos might join the Red shirt fight and pull on a war with Thailand in support of the Reds. ??

Ive read your post again and that's what I'm picking up.


If this is what you are saying I consider you a total fukin fool.

If not I apologize for misreading your post.

Little of these comments have anything to do with the OP.

Pity because I was being persuaded by the OP - that arrest of arbitrary people indicates the coup is totalitarian.

Everything in Teakdoor just dissolves down to grey goo.

Originally Posted by Bettyboo

This concept that Thais are somehow different, mixed with a large does of dehumanizing, as Tax's post above, is not the correct way to view the situation because it considers the symptoms not the cause.

Thai society is conventional, as every society/culture is, and it's the army and another group which frame the conventions and cause these symptoms by their patronage and totally corrupt behaviour; systematic, calculated, focused. So, now seeing the army as the doctor to treat the symptoms of which they are the cause is somewhat confused logic and goes against every social study, historical study and critical study of societies and their development. It's hard to believe that educated and intelligent posters will totally ignore all the academics, politicians and Thais living out of Thailand, and follow suthep and the army's propaganda instead.

Comparing thai and uk history, are you saying that thailand needs an oliver cromwell to save thailand from its inequalies, because we both know that is not going to happen.

The status quo is too entrenched here, and woe betide anyone who tries to destabilise it.

What might be a suitable system for the west, is definately not a suitable system yet for thailand. They have been trying for 80 years without success. 2 steps forward 3 steps back. It will happen when the time is right, and that time has not yet come, as the events of the past 6 months have convincingly proved.


You just cant rush the thai, whether its building your house, repairing your aircon compressor, serving your meal, or developing democracy, surely you must have realised that by now.

Originally Posted by terry57

Whatever,

But you cant tell us that when you look around all the locals are arse deep in Politics discussing how the Coup has fuked their life.

Many people are actually discussing politics. Here of course no one discusses politics, I am not discussing politics, but why do you think they took 250 or 380 to detention?
And this is not about curfew, this is about civil liberties. Seriously, what would you think, what would you do, if army (unannouced and not on your side) suddenly took over Perth. Of course that does not happen in Aus, but is should not happen here either.

Originally Posted by Rural Surin

Some outsiders are truly looking for a bloody civil war.
As long as they're not involved personally - it's ok.

Less connected.

Fcuk off, all of ya.

I can tell you no one in any military wants civil war, or any war. War is Hell. It is the final failure. I see some people on this forum wanting to "settle it all now" but that is wrong, people end up dead, with families, future. Killing is really bad.

Originally Posted by terry57

^ ^

Jakie boy,

You live in bumfuk nowhere, eating bugs, drinking lao kao and performing your duties a village idiot.

You simply have no idea whats going on in Bangkok.

True innit.

Yet, BKK is not the centre of the universe as applying to Thai things, Tel.
And shouldn't be looked upon as so....

I'm guessing, like many, your extended experience about anything "Thai" is largely limited to a Bangkok-centric vision.

Clue yourself in, Tel - and your understanding might be modified greatly.

Originally Posted by Exit Strategy

Seriously, what would you think, what would you do, if army (unannouced and not on your side) suddenly took over Perth.

Of course that does not happen in Aus, but is should not happen here either.

You answered your own question, that being " it would never happen in Australia " but its normal fare for Thailand and very few find any surprises in that.

The biggest surprise was that the Army remained out of it for so long.

You're simply not factoring into the equation that Thailand is thoroughly used to this shit, ain't no big earth shattering event.

The vast majority of people just carry on doing their thing.

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

I DO NOT WANT TO BOMB THE US AND HAVE NO AFFILIATION WITH ANYONE WHO WANTS TO DO THAT

Ok, you are cleared.
But there's still the pint.

Originally Posted by thegent

What you are trying to say is that an era of mob rule is upon us, yes?

Silly boy and clearly quite hysterical.

Ah yes, then again, that's what Marie Antoinette thought too.

Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer

Originally Posted by thegent

What you are trying to say is that an era of mob rule is upon us, yes?

Silly boy and clearly quite hysterical.

Ah yes, then again, that's what Marie Antoinette thought too.

Let them eat Som Tam...

If the poor weren't so bloody selfish and self-obsessed they'd use themselves as fertiliser and give us all a break. Isaan is nothing more than deadweight on the ship of state and as much use as barnacles on the bilges.

The amount of dosh wasted on them on this rice scam could have paid for the next 10 years' harvests.

Cheaper buying rice from the Indians and Viets.

The inescapable fact of the Thai is that about 10 million of the buggers are quite redundant and surplus to requirement. Feckless bunch and quite stupid, in the main, whose only value was to create a demagogue like the ghastly Thaksin creature.

Originally Posted by terry57

but its normal fare for Thailand and very few find any surprises in that

It should not be.

This time is bigger because people know their freedoms.

And this is all part of bigger geopolitical picture. If democracy collapses here... can collapse in Indonesia, Philippines, India then things can happen, destabilized se asia, US goes away, Aus and NZ are left defenceless... Border Protection and Border Patrol without fuel...

You take for granted our life is secure. It's not.

Originally Posted by thegent

The amount of dosh wasted on them on this rice scam could have paid for the next 10 years' harvests.

500,000,000,000 baht all-in

Originally Posted by terry57

Originally Posted by Waid

Thinking here of the Arab Spring & other recent times of rapid change. Everyone said it would never occur - yet it did.

Its posts like this that one must question and look upon as uninformed and simply emotional tripe.

Thailand ain't no " Arab spring " or anywhere near it, never has been, the people are not oppressed as in the Arab countries.

Thailand means " Free Land " the people are generally free to do the fuk whatever they want.

This event is only politics 101 Thai style not some Arab fukin uprising.

No free land- respect my vote

Originally Posted by terry57

Originally Posted by Waid

You under-estimate the resolve of rural Thai people - especially those living in Isaan - the part that was historically part of Laos. Their support flows deeply into the surrounding countries. The Red strongholds.

So I'm reading your post as saying that because Issan was historically a part of laos you are insinuating that Laos might join the Red shirt fight and pull on a war with Thailand in support of the Reds. ??

The fact that tremendous sympathies lie beyond Thai borders does not mean that surrounding nations will get involved in Thailand's internal problems. They'll leave Thais to fix their own mess.

You'll see people glued to news channels at markets and so forth, keeping abreast of the situation and offering very direct analysis of the real reasons for the present debacle in Thailand. What one particular neighbour does is to prepare for a mass exodus of Thai refugees, should this occur - with measures in place to protect their own citizens.

The Thai elite are not well thought of in certain parts. They've been trouble-makers for a long time.

Looking at the generals who were appointed to various positions today and a bit of basic research will show you who they are all allied to, looks like everything now in place for the third option.

Originally Posted by Waid

The fact that tremendous sympathies lie beyond Thai borders does not mean that surrounding nations will get involved in Thailand's internal problems. They'll leave Thais to fix their own mess.

Thai's don't want any help fixing their own mess.

There are some long term expats here that think this coup is the same cycle of Thai history repeating itself.

It's not.

Luckily, some of you are starting to face reality and I hope you're making plans for it.