Thread: Coup 2014 !!!! : Military 'takes control' in Thailand

Originally Posted by sabang

Originally Posted by longway

Its not a choice between a military junta and an electoral oligarchy is it?

It's no choice at all right now- but given the choice, corrupt oligarchs squabbling in a parliamentary system is far preferable to military autocracy- just compare the results. A major problem with Thailand has always been transparency- and (hence) accountability. That has just deteriorated significantly, due both to the dissolution of parliament and draconian media censorship, not to mention intimidation and stifling of dissenting voices.

Quixotically though, it has resulted in the people of Thailand talking much more about 'the situation', and Thailands dirty laundry being well aired internationally. In one night of cable TV viewing down in Pattaya, I saw Giles Ungaporn & Bob Amsterdam interviewed on Australia network, a special called 'Thailands coups' (or close) on France 24, and another special on another news channel- and they were quite candid. That is probably a good thing, although I doubt the woefully misnamed 'royalists' agree.

You talk as though you think Thailand will remain under control of the military forever, do you really believe this.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

Originally Posted by FloridaBorn

^^Well lets try this scenario. Right now there are many Americans very disenchanted with the US POTUS, as in fairness they were with the previous one too towards the end of his terms. Is it an option to cry and whine until the military takes action and ousts him?

No it isn't, in spite of me and many wanting him out sooner rather than later, our system of democracy does not allow our military to intervene and rightfully so, as it is with EVERY 1st world civilized government and NONE of them would exist without the opportunity to develop and work out the differences and kinks without military intervention.

In America it's called impeachment.

Ermm no it's not, no where close to the same thing, even impeachment does not mean the president HAS to leave office, nor is it in any way so simplistic to impeach a president, has to be for high crimes or treason, etc... Partly why it's NEVER happened, though Billy boy came close, lucky he had the majority in congress at the time..

Special attention:

Should any one of the Articles of Impeachment be approved by a simple majority vote, the President will be "impeached." However, being impeached is sort of like being indicted of a crime. There still has to be a trial, which is where the US Senate comes in.

Process of Impeachment of the President of the United States

^ relax, FB, its not as if you are Thai, and have any dog in this race.

Originally Posted by RPETER65

You talk as though you think Thailand will remain under control of the military forever, do you really believe this.

Exactly mate,

Once the Military finish doing their thing elections will be held and it will be back to Democracy again.

Then when the new government gets to corrupt we will have another Coup.

Hope they close down Silom road and occupy Lumpin park again..

I really enjoyed that.

Some posters seem to think this is first time Thailand has experienced this action.

Jesus, its friggin normal fare for this joint and certainly nothing to get excited about.

Rather nice to see a few arses getting kicked especially down in Pattaya.

Originally Posted by FloridaBorn

Our system of Democracy does not allow our military to intervene and rightfully so, as it is with EVERY 1st world civilized Government..

Mate, I can truly pick up what you're putting down and you are correct.

Thing is, we are dealing with Thailand here and it does not matter what one thinks or how things should be, Thailand marches to its own drum.

Its a third Rd world Monkey house with some real good first world infrastructure for Farangs to play in.

Hence why I don't get involved with their politics but merely revel in the good things Thailand has to offer the farang with a few bucks in his pocket.

Actually, the Thai political situation is a giggle if viewed from afar.

I was down stairs in our local market today, one lady is a die in the arse Red and was mouthing off to a lady who I know is Yellow.

It was funny as fuck, I could see the Yellow ladies mind ticking over, she never utter a word except only nodded at the Red nutter whilst smiling.

Such is Thai politics, its all unadulterated bullshit innit.

The losers are the ones who take it all so seriously.

Originally Posted by sabang

Thailand has been one of the best performing economies in the world under a democracy.

Do you think it will be under a military junta? Perhaps we should ask the Burmese.

Sabang, you seem to be a decent guy but your Political views are always at the extreme edge of reality.

Here we have you comparing Thai's Junta with the Burmese situation.

So totally removed from a reasonable post its not worthy of a reply.

Originally Posted by terry57

Here we have you comparing Thai's Junta with the Burmese situation.

So totally removed from a reasonable post its not worthy of a reply.

Indeed. Seems to forget that most of the events in Thailand that are reminiscent of the Myanmar junta has come at the hands of Thaksin and his daughter.

Originally Posted by pseudolus

Originally Posted by terry57

Here we have you comparing Thai's Junta with the Burmese situation.

So totally removed from a reasonable post its not worthy of a reply.

Indeed. Seems to forget that most of the events in Thailand that are reminiscent of the Myanmar junta has come at the hands of Thaksin and his daughter.

Thaksin's daughter? Which one?

1. Thaksin Shinawatra
   Politician
   
2. Thaksin Shinawatra is a Thai business tycoon turned politician. He founded Advanced Info Service, Thailand's most successful mobile phone operator. Wikipedia
   
3. Born: July 26, 1949 (age 64), San Kamphaeng District
   
4. Spouse: Potjaman Na Pombejra (m. 1980–2008)
   
5. Siblings: Yingluck Shinawatra, Yaowapha Wongsawat
   
6. Children: Panthongtae Shinawatra, Peathongtarn Shinawatra, Pintongtha Kunakornwong
   
7. Nationality: Thai, Montenegrin, Nicaraguan
   
8. Education: Armed Forces Academies Preparatory School, Sam Houston State University, Eastern Kentucky University
   

Originally Posted by Evilbaz

Siblings: Yingluck Shinawatra,

That one

Originally Posted by Evilbaz

Nationality: Thai, Montenegrin, Nicaraguan

Really?

Originally Posted by 9999

Originally Posted by Evilbaz

Nationality: Thai, Montenegrin, Nicaraguan

Really?

Amazing how Mr Thai suddenly waters down his Thainess to stay on the run, and hide his ill gotten gains lol

The Norwegian company behind Thailand's No. 2 telecom confirmed it shut down Facebook access to its customers late last month at the order of the military junta.

An executive with Telenor Group of Norway said the company blocked service to 10 million DTAC users in Thailand at the order of Thai telecom officials on May 28, one week after the junta seized power, according to Bangkok Post.

According to a report in Norwegian media, Telenor Asia Vice President Tor Odland admitted the company was put in a difficult position of upholding international human rights expectations versus complying with Thai regulations.

"There is no doubt that such cases put a mobile operator under Telenor in a demanding situation. On the one hand we relate to international frameworks such as the UN guidelines on human rights and business," Odland wrote. "On the other hand, we have that licensee's duty to deal with local laws."

Facing criticism for the move at home, Telenor "lamented the impact of the restriction could get for the people of Thailand," Odland added, according to a translated version of his comments.

At about 3pm on May 28, Faebook became unavailable throughout Thailand for about 30 minutes. Although permanent secretary of the Ministry of Information and Communication Technology Surachai Srisarakam first confirmed it was blocked on the junta's order, a junta spokesman denied that and blamed it on a technical failure.




DTAC owner: Facebook blocked on order of junta | Coconuts Bangkok

Originally Posted by rebbu

DTAC owner: Facebook blocked on order of junta

No it wasn't. If it was, they must have made a special exclusion for my Missus.

Well it's pretty conclusive now that thai fascism is alive and kicking, and rabid amongst the Military Junta Dictatorship and associates.

Originally Posted by Dandyhole

Well it's pretty conclusive now that thai fascism is alive and kicking, and rabid amongst the Military Junta Dictatorship and associates.

Why? Is someone being referred to as "glorious leader"?
Are the trains running on time?

^ and associates

Originally Posted by terry57

Originally Posted by RPETER65

You talk as though you think Thailand will remain under control of the military forever, do you really believe this.

Exactly mate,

Once the Military finish doing their thing elections will be held and it will be back to Democracy again.

Then when the new government gets to corrupt we will have another Coup.

Hope they close down Silom road and occupy Lumpin park again..

I really enjoyed that.

Some posters seem to think this is first time Thailand has experienced this action.

Jesus, its friggin normal fare for this joint and certainly nothing to get excited about.

Rather nice to see a few arses getting kicked especially down in Pattaya.

I also enjoyed visiting the protesters at several locations, very nice group of people.

^

I'm sure many of the Red shirts are nice people as well, its only the Extremists on both sides who really stir the shit and excite the following mobs.

That's why the punters who pick a side and then call all of that side out as being evil are so foked up.

Originally Posted by terry57

Originally Posted by sabang

Thailand has been one of the best performing economies in the world under a democracy.

Do you think it will be under a military junta? Perhaps we should ask the Burmese.

Sabang, you seem to be a decent guy but your Political views are always at the extreme edge of reality.

Here we have you comparing Thai's Junta with the Burmese situation.

So totally removed from a reasonable post its not worthy of a reply.

This kind of hysterical rhetoric is all they have really.

I know its not directly related to Thailand or even the USA, but have a look at this link: The French are right: tear up public debt

The neoliberal argument in favour of austerity policies claims that debt is due to unreasonable public spending levels; that societies in general, and popular classes in particular, live above their means.This is plain false.

The real assault to democracies is taking place in your home countries and the big lies are being told there too, not in Thailand. You guys think Thais are lied too?

You, and I am looking especially at US citizens who cant stand the military invervening in Thailand and think they have given Iraq an 'opportunity for freedom' to think carefully where the real problems lie.

Can it be in a country who's electoral oligarchy is still a 'work in progress' for more than 200 years? Please fix your own 'democracy' before trying to 'fix' thailand's.

Originally Posted by longway

Arisman changes his tune.

what a 2 faced coward,

Originally Posted by sabang

Thailand has been one of the best performing economies in the world under a democracy.

it coincided with global growth, even Burma would have had the same performance if it wasn't for the US crippling embargo

Singapore, which is not a Democracy, and Laos, which is also not a Democracy, had substantial growth during that time

Originally Posted by sabang

The criminalising of the three fingered boy scout salute has no doubt been met with a collective sigh of relief by the Boy Scout Association, the Village Scouts, and their sponsors.

The three fingered sign is a covert show of support from one of the worlds larges paedo groups for Yingluck. She wears their medal on her dress uniform.

It's true, look it up,

Beware, July 1st is Thailands National Scout day. Many dangerous insurgents will hit the streets.




Still, fresh from their triumphal campaign against blank A4 paper, I am sure Thailand's brave hansum soldiers will rise to meet the challenge.
Rumors of the possible illegal assembly of blank pieces of paper spread on social media over the weekend, leading up to the massive response by army troops and police brigades. As of 10am Sunday, no fewer than 600 soldiers and 450 riot-armed policemen, supported by 50 vehicles, were present at key locations throughout the capital, including Victory Monument, Democracy Monument, Rajprasong, Lumpini Park, and a dozen large shopping malls.
http://notthenation.com/2014/06/army...t-of-a4-paper/

Wait, Wait,

How many fingers are in that salute? Count now, and be sure.