Thread: Coup 2014 !!!! : Military 'takes control' in Thailand

No not the reds. the farmers. It will pay off in spades. These are simple and kind folk, the backbone of the country. They will remember who paid them what they were owed, and who did not. Smart move. The only move, the right move. Nobody else gave a shit as there was only money to be spent not made. Where the money is coming from I dont have a clue. But its well spent.

Originally Posted by robuzo

Originally Posted by The Ghost Of The Moog

Originally Posted by Troy

Originally Posted by The Ghost Of The Moog

A logical move for red shirts now would be to move directly to terrorist activities - and bring those asymmetric methods to the city .

Not a logical move and not a clever one either.

The Military don't need any help at all in creating their downfall. They are quite capable of doing it all by themselves.

It's easier to throw a Molotov cocktail into Nana Plaza and disappear into the night, than it is to stand in front of a platoon of armed soldiers and unveil a seditious placard (and get away with it)

That's some pretty high-octane fear mongering. I can't respect any pro-democracy activist who wouldn't elect to kill people, even farangs.

Wouldn't be a pro-democracy activist, would be a group of young hotheads who don't feel they can express themselves in any other way - or even older guys, perhaps with a bit of weapons experience having once been in anti communist ops.

And they're just pissed off at a lifetime of being squashed down.
..And so they reach their 'Falling Down' moment. They decide not to put up with it any more. 'Nihilism', 'Resistance', all sorts of ways they could self-justify it.

There is no shortage of easy targets whose destruction would illustrate that the army's authoritarian presence does not bring either peace or order.

flew into Ubon there was about 20 army there, and police, drove home and passed three check points along the way and i was told there all over the place.

Didn't see this many in BKK.

Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer

Originally Posted by pickel

Prayuth played his cards well. He only delayed the inevitable though. Hopefully his payments on the rice scheme and, so far, treating the reds the same as the yellows will keep things calm.

Funny how he managed to find the money to pay farmers only three or four days after a coup, when a legitimate government was STOPPED from making payments to farmers at every turn. What fucking bullshit - the farmers are happy to get paid of course, but they're not stupid..

when the govt wanted to pay farmers, loans to the govt were blocked. When you are all-powerful, this happens...

"The Bangkok establishment called the subsidies a wasteful and corrupt scheme. But the new military rulers ordered that the payments be made, and that the country’s banks lend the government the necessary cash."

since Suthep and the military are on the same side of the fence, this series of events is not a surprise...

Originally Posted by robuzo

Amazing Thai army! When they aren't stacking Muslim boys into trucks like cord wood, shelling Cambodia, murdering Chinese sailors on the Mekong, or gunning down nurses from the BTS tracks they are enacting financial miracles! Our saviors.

At least they aren't murdering millions around the planet for no other reason than power and money like your mob.

what did you expect with over a million not paid, things would out got out of hand and support for PT would of intensified, the rural folk knew what was happening and most were patient with the now defunct govt.

Originally Posted by TLansford

Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer

Originally Posted by pickel

Prayuth played his cards well. He only delayed the inevitable though. Hopefully his payments on the rice scheme and, so far, treating the reds the same as the yellows will keep things calm.

Funny how he managed to find the money to pay farmers only three or four days after a coup, when a legitimate government was STOPPED from making payments to farmers at every turn. What fucking bullshit - the farmers are happy to get paid of course, but they're not stupid..

when the govt wanted to pay farmers, loans to the govt were blocked. When you are all-powerful, this happens...

"The Bangkok establishment called the subsidies a wasteful and corrupt scheme. But the new military rulers ordered that the payments be made, and that the country’s banks lend the government the necessary cash."

since Suthep and the military are on the same side of the fence, this series of events is not a surprise...

So far so good for the general.

It is how a coup should be. Tough love. Strict, in complete control, no brutality.

Stifle all opposition and control the media.

Its just what the undisciplined anarchic rabble that is the thai people need.

A no nonsense general with a big stick to instill a bit of order, obedience and respect.

Thailand will be a better place for it. Thaksin let them all off the leash, a big mistake.

Thais need to to kept on a short lead.

Originally Posted by aging one

No not the reds. the farmers. It will pay off in spades. These are simple and kind folk, the backbone of the country. They will remember who paid them what they were owed, and who did not. Smart move. The only move, the right move. Nobody else gave a shit as there was only money to be spent not made. Where the money is coming from I dont have a clue. But its well spent.

Sentimental rubbish.

Thai agriculture is utterly inefficient, wasteful, unsustainable and uneconomic. This final act in a disgraceful confidence trick perpetrated by a ruthless demagogue for his own evil ends marks the beginning of the end of the industry. The expenditure on this scam has been colossal and you blithely state you haven't a clue where the money will come from to pay for this farrago? I'll tell you: it'll come from the taxpayer, it'll come from the pared down budgets for education, health and welfare, it'll come from the farang who will inevitably be exploited for their reliance on a visa regime which will demand more money in fees, it'll come from curtailed projects maintaining Thailand's dreadful infrastructure. And if that won't be enough, then the increased inflation that will inevitably feed itself into the system will increase taxation and the falling baht will inevitably fuel the increases as energy prices rise.

There is no free ride for anyone in this but one thing is for sure, subsidising a section of the community which contributes a piddling 8 %'to GDP to this extent is economic stupidity on a scale as large as the scam.

Paying off the farmers because they sold their votes for a pig in a poke is a crime.

But who cares, just as long as some witless farang thinks they're the salt of the earth.

Originally Posted by taxexile

So far so good for the general.

It is how a coup should be. Tough love. Strict, in complete control, no brutality.

Stifle all opposition and control the media.

Its just what the undisciplined anarchic rabble that is the thai people need.

A no nonsense general with a big stick to instill a bit of order, obedience and respect.

Thailand will be a better place for it. Thaksin let them all off the leash, a big mistake.

Thais need to to kept on a short lead.

Reminds me of Friedrich Nietzsche in Thus Spake Zarathustra: when you go to woman, take the whip along.

Frankly, I never truly minded the odd thrashing. I expect you come from the same school, eh, Tax?

Weren't you the other day going off about how the markets haven't attacked the thai markets, but now your sounding like doomsday is just around the corner

Originally Posted by thegent

Originally Posted by aging one

No not the reds. the farmers. It will pay off in spades. These are simple and kind folk, the backbone of the country. They will remember who paid them what they were owed, and who did not. Smart move. The only move, the right move. Nobody else gave a shit as there was only money to be spent not made. Where the money is coming from I dont have a clue. But its well spent.

Sentimental rubbish.

Thai agriculture is utterly inefficient, wasteful, unsustainable and uneconomic. This final act in a disgraceful confidence trick perpetrated by a ruthless demagogue for his own evil ends marks the beginning of the end of the industry. The expenditure on this scam has been colossal and you blithely state you haven't a clue where the money will come from to pay for this farrago? I'll tell you: it'll come from the taxpayer, it'll come from the pared down budgets for education, health and welfare, it'll come from the farang who will inevitably be exploited for their reliance on a visa regime which will demand more money in fees, it'll come from curtailed projects maintaining Thailand's dreadful infrastructure. And if that won't be enough, then the increased inflation that will inevitably feed itself into the system will increase taxation and the falling baht will inevitably fuel the increases as energy prices rise.

There is no free ride for anyone in this but one thing is for sure, subsidising a section of the community which contributes a piddling 8 %'to GDP to this extent is economic stupidity on a scale as large as the scam.

Paying off the farmers because they sold their votes for a pig in a poke is a crime.

But who cares, just as long as some witless farang thinks they're the salt of the earth.

Originally Posted by taxexile

So far so good for the general.

It is how a coup should be. Tough love. Strict, in complete control, no brutality.

Stifle all opposition and control the media.

Its just what the undisciplined anarchic rabble that is the thai people need.

A no nonsense general with a big stick to instill a bit of order, obedience and respect.

Thailand will be a better place for it. Thaksin let them all off the leash, a big mistake.

Thais need to to kept on a short lead.

You surely jest? No sane person could be talking like this - seriously.

Frankly, I never truly minded the odd thrashing. I expect you come from the same school, eh, Tax?

There is nothing inherently wrong with corporal punishment for schoolkids, it did keep the rowdier elements in check so that teaching was mostly uninterrupted, and after suffering the humiliation and pain of two or three thrashings early on, the threat of further beatings was more than enough to secure a kind of reluctant but not subserviant obedience. I suspect it will be the same for the thais, as they seem to mostly behave like schoolkids.

Whacko!

Originally Posted by Waid

Originally Posted by taxexile

So far so good for the general.

It is how a coup should be. Tough love. Strict, in complete control, no brutality.

Stifle all opposition and control the media.

Its just what the undisciplined anarchic rabble that is the thai people need.

A no nonsense general with a big stick to instill a bit of order, obedience and respect.

Thailand will be a better place for it. Thaksin let them all off the leash, a big mistake.

Thais need to to kept on a short lead.

You surely jest? No sane person could be talking like this - seriously.

The sanity is suspiciously considered here amongst many.

Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer

What fucking bullshit - the farmers are happy to get paid of course, but they're not stupid..

They were stupid enough to vote for the party who started the disaster known as the rice pledge, and now the rest of the country will have to pay for their mistake.

You whine when they don't get paid, you whine when they do get paid.

You surely jest? No sane person could be talking like this - seriously.

Its a coup you big girls blouse, how else can a coup be effective if not by the strict implementstion of restrictive measures.

And when they prove themselves to be better disciplined, less corrupt and more responsible, then they can have another go at democracy.

Maybe then they wont fuck it up.

I rather think there's as much chance of that as you flopping the old chap out at Headingly and asking Boycott to give you a quickhandshandy.

Originally Posted by taxexile

And when they prove themselves to be better disciplined, less corrupt and more responsible, then they can have another go at democracy.

Maybe then they wont fuck it up.

Was this fellow a relative of yours, perhaps?

Originally Posted by Waid

Originally Posted by taxexile

And when they prove themselves to be better disciplined, less corrupt and more responsible, then they can have another go at democracy.

Maybe then they wont fuck it up.

Was this fellow a relative of yours, perhaps?

Don't know who that is - but for sure it was you lot who funded the misery and gained from it too.

Tax is Poo Yai.

You are simply Poo.



Jog on you stupid cvnt

Originally Posted by Albert Shagnastier

Originally Posted by robuzo

Amazing Thai army! When they aren't stacking Muslim boys into trucks like cord wood, shelling Cambodia, murdering Chinese sailors on the Mekong, or gunning down nurses from the BTS tracks they are enacting financial miracles! Our saviors.

At least they aren't murdering millions around the planet for no other reason than power and money like your mob.

I really irks you to be be so far down the food chain doesn't it?

The only reason you can say that is because they're being countered by a higher power, but of course you knew that already?

Originally Posted by pickel

Originally Posted by Tom Sawyer

What fucking bullshit - the farmers are happy to get paid of course, but they're not stupid..

They were stupid enough to vote for the party who started the disaster known as the rice pledge, and now the rest of the country will have to pay for their mistake.

You mean like the country did when the dems knew they were going to be ousted from the top seat and allowed the dams to overfill knowing that the worst of the flooding would be up country? That kind of stupid? THAT's when all of this REALLY kicked off not with the attempted recover scheme by the previous admin..BTW I predicted well in advance back then that the following seasons from that flood would be banner years for crops due to the nitrates that were deposited in the fields..

The Bahtski seems to be holding up quite well and the stock market has only grunted a bit. Lots of people were predicting a total disintegration a while back.

The bond auction a couple of days ago failed to reach it's target by a few billion.....but one time is not a trend. Be interesting to see how the next round goes....

Originally Posted by koman

The Bahtski seems to be holding up quite well

The USD selling rate is now 32.99 which is the weakest the baht has been in quite a while.